The Ford Torino Page Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Engine Specific Forum > Big Block Engine Forum
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Oil pan gasket reseal - IN CAR
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Oil pan gasket reseal - IN CAR

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Oil pan gasket reseal - IN CAR
    Posted: 28-June-2018 at 5:40AM
Well guys, when I was under the car this past weekend I had a couple small puddles of oil on the plastic tarp under my car. One spot was directly under the harmonic balancer and the other was dripping out of the "weep hole" in the transmission inspection plate. I'm thinking it's leaking around the pan gasket corners as it breaks to go around the crank.

During assembly, I dry fit the gasket and pan on one weekend and the following weeknd I tightened everything up thinking I had shot a bead of RTV at the gasket corners and now I kinda feel like I may have accidentally skipped that step! Embarrassed

My question is... how difficult is it to jack the motor up to clear the crossmember and make this repair IN THE CAR? Ouch

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-June-2018 at 10:55AM
Well if the shop manual is correct, it shouldn't be that big a deal to raise engine, drop pan and put it all back together correctly...

FINGERS CROSSED!

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Online
Points: 3894
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-June-2018 at 12:08PM
they leave all the prying, slamming, jamming, pushing, scraping & cussing out of the manual


72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
californiajohnny View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 05-October-2013
Location: winlock, wa
Status: Offline
Points: 9086
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-June-2018 at 2:24PM
^^^this LOL you should be able to jack it up and drop the pan enough to get it wiped off and put a little silicone in the corners, as far as completely removing the pan ...IDK usually it hits the sump tube or the front cross member or something to keep it from sliding it out without having the engine 10' in the air to clear stuff Confused
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Online
Points: 3894
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-June-2018 at 2:47PM
gotta drop the pump into the pan to get the pan out to clean the surfaces properly to make a good seal

blanket over the trans & jack it into the hump, maybe motor mounts off for room?

maybe loose the headers & tie off to the sides?

i always do a smear of RTV on the inside corners of any pan / intake install,

so getting those inside corners clean / dry is important IMO
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-June-2018 at 3:41AM
Max,

Luckily mine is a fresh build, so there won't be any issue with scraping crud, etc. With no more than 20-30 minutes run time on the engine, I'm hoping I can simply drain & drop the pan, pull the pan gasket away at the front timing cover and at the back crank main cap, spritz the corners with some brake cleaner to displace the oil, blow dry, shoot a blob of Ultra Blue RTV into the four corners, reposition the pan gasket, move the pan into place insert the screws and torque to spec....

I PRAY.

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Online
Points: 3894
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-June-2018 at 4:36AM
several shots of brakleen & let it drip down / dry, repeat. i use a finger to introduce the schmoo to the metal rather than hope the blob 'takes',
done it plenty of times, it don't hurt. never upside down though




Edited by Rockatansky - 29-June-2018 at 4:38AM
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
Big Bird View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 25-August-2013
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 3267
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-July-2018 at 2:06PM
Kind of a PITA, as the steering linkages and crossmember are tight to the pan. It can be done, but you need to raise the engine and drop the oil pump pickup to remove the pan.
AC box will add to the fun, if so equipped.
I would start with a little internet research, see if there are any new swear words you haven't tried out yet.
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
Almost forgot: "Get off my lawn!!!"
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2006 GMC Sierra
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-July-2018 at 3:36PM
My suspicions were correct.... I must have dry fit the oil pan gasket and pan one weekend and then the following weekend buttoned everything up thinking I was done.... WRONG

Saturday I got the pan dropped, the gasket and corners cleaned and sprayed several times with brake clean to get rid of any oil residue so the RTV and gasket will adhere nicely to the block sealing the corners and then left everything opened up so the cleaner can evaporate away.
 
 
 
 


Next weekend I'll hit the corners with a good blob of Ultra Seal, reinstall the pan gasket, button up the oil pan and set the engine back down into the frame and reassemble everything removed to allow the engine to be raised.... then I'll be back on track to getting her ready to turn over to the body shop!

Edited by TV 2M8O - 03-July-2018 at 3:38PM

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-July-2018 at 10:40AM

Well after wasting over an hour trying to position the oil pan gasket onto the engine from below, I finally realized it would be much simpler to remove the pan, stick the gasket onto the pan with a few smears of RTV, then RTV the corners on the engine and the pan and then position the pan onto the motor, so I pulled the front sway bar off and got the pan out and prepped for the install next weekend.

I'll also finish cleaning the cured RTV from the engine as well.


Edited by TV 2M8O - 07-July-2018 at 1:13PM

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
Big Bird View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 25-August-2013
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 3267
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-July-2018 at 11:43AM
Will the newer I piece gasket work for you? If so, tie it in place thru the bolt holes with dental floss, install the bolts loosely, and remove the floss before tightening up the bolts. Beats screwing around with the 4 piece gasket set.
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
Almost forgot: "Get off my lawn!!!"
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2006 GMC Sierra
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-July-2018 at 1:11PM
Randy,

I thought about tying in place but I din't have anything handy, so I just dropped the pan and "glued" it to the pan in a few places with RTV.

Have to get me a roll of floss and keep it in my toolbox!!

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Online
Points: 3894
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-July-2018 at 3:29PM
doesn't somebody make a gasket with retainers for the 460?

72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
newmexguy View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: 27-September-2012
Location: las Cruces
Status: Offline
Points: 122
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote newmexguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-July-2018 at 9:49AM
Or Fel-Pro "Snap-Ups" which aid in positioning of the oil pan gasket
Back to Top
TV 2M8O View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 20-September-2006
Location: Southern Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TV 2M8O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-July-2018 at 11:04AM
Thanks all, I got it reinstalled with the pan this weekend and after initial startup, no drips. We'll see what it looks like next weekend.....

TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/
Back to Top
californiajohnny View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 05-October-2013
Location: winlock, wa
Status: Offline
Points: 9086
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-July-2018 at 2:05PM
Clap
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.