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I decided to pull the Bullits off yesterday and install these on the car. They fit much better and the car seems to like them more. 17 X 9 all around, 235/55 and 275/55 tires. Found a photo-op at the inlaws with a nice Fall background. I took it to the Coker Tire Christmas run today, still runs like a top, had a great time. As usual, it was the only Torino there.




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I'm liking this 460 more and more...
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yeah those look good on there joe! do you tire clearance to drop the front an inch or two??? i think it would look better with some attitude Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gnrlee01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2016 at 2:57PM
when you had the mustang bullit wheels on, what size were they and was the bolt pattern the 5 on 4.5, or 5 on 5? i found a set of those mustang wheels at a lolcal pawn shop here and im wondering how they would look on mine. i do plan on going to the larger disk brake conversion the same as what cali-johnny did, so im trying to get some info before i can determine what i might get.
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Bolt pattern was standard Ford 5 X 4.5. To use these wheels, you must have spacers 3/4 to 1 inch in thickness.

John, the car already sits 2 inches shorter than a stock Torino. I may cut another half coil off the front springs but need to find a way to reduce the rear height the same amount. This car handles great, corners flat and just needs the largest front and a rear sway bar to help. Running no rear bar and the puny base Torino 302 front bar. Could not be more pleased with the spring and shock choices for this application.
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Does this mean it's safe from the sawzall???
 
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
Almost forgot: "Get off my lawn!!!"
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joe i can get you a 1 1/8" bar at that yard (front bar)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gnrlee01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-November-2016 at 5:52AM
hey john, while youre at it, i could use a 1 and 1/8th front as well as a rear one, and all its necessary parts to install it on mine, should you come across another one after you get joes. mine has no rear bar at all.
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Back to the question on the Mustang Bullit wheels, I have the 2001 to 2004 style on my 72 Ranchero I ended up using 2 inch spacers on my 17" Bullits, to give them the correct backspacing. Bullits were 5.5" bs, stock are 3.5, so........



This is what they ended up looking like. the car/truck sits lower than that now, but you get the idea


Edited by DaleR09 - 20-November-2016 at 6:29AM
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Here is what I ran on 2 of my Torinos.

Same 1999 to 2004 wheels, tires, etc. 17 X 8 Bullits on front with 1 inch spacer, rear is 18 X 10 Bullits with 1 inch spacer on the wagon and 3/4 spacer on the gold Formal. Pictures show how it looked.




Also a picture with 1999 - 2004 17 X 8 Bullits all around with 1 inch spacers on front and 1.5 spacers on the rear.





Spacers are fine but I still have that small fear twisting these 2 cars up so hard on them. Unfounded fear, but a fear nonetheless.
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"New" wheels look great!  Love this car!
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I like em all. how far the wheels are out to the wheel wells is just a matter of personal preference.
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My cars are sitting down quite a bit over the tires, and with aggressive driving I needed the clearance. They extend out much further than stock, which I like, but do not rub during hard cornering through the mountainous areas I live in. I learned an important lesson by chewing up the sidewalls on a few tires.

Also, I still have that fear of larger spacers. I've run larger on Jeeps, but articulating through the back woods every so often is actually not as hard on them as tossing a 4000-5000 pound car through the curves on a daily basis.

Looks like you are running 245/45-17 tires? Good size and the stock size for Mustangs.

Edited by unlovedford - 22-November-2016 at 1:05AM
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The car is looking good Joe.  I am glad the spring choices you are happy with the spring choices.  It's amazing how much of a difference a stiff set of springs can make in these cars.
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Thanks Vince. I appreciate your advice on the springs - could not be happier. It handles well, but after adding the sway bars, and new bushings, it should be just right. This car and the red wagon (especially it) are going to be driven the most and driven in an enjoyable fashion. I'm sure the wagon will handle better, simply because of the small block, aluminum 5 speed and lightweight interior, plus better weight distribution. It will be a surprise to most, but a pleasure for me. Imagine drifting a wagon...
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I ended up installing the Bullits back on the car after passing on the AR's to another member. The car runs excellent, but needs the D0VE heads installed, more carb and headers to really wake it up. Just seems stifled.

A persistent problem it has that I have not been able to find, (though admittedly, I have not had a bunch of time to devote to it) is that after sitting overnight (or 2 months, does not matter) it empties all the fuel out of the carb and line and requires many cranking periods to get started. Usually six 10 to 15 solid seconds of cranking to get a sputter. Then a few additional attempts before coming to life. I've checked and replaced the fuel lines, replaced the fuel pump, installed a check valve, installed a new inlet setup on the carb and have observed no leaks and no gas odor. Running a Carter 650 (Edelbrock clone). It is a mystery to me, and it did not start doing this until we swapped the cam/lifters/timing set/springs a couple of years ago. Once it starts, it will fire up easily all day long. Weather and temperature have no effect either way. Now, it has started idling up and down in a regular pattern, indicating some vacuum leak, but I have seen nothing.

Could this be just a carb-related fluke or something glaring I am missing?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2017 at 3:33AM
IDK i have a couple cars that do that...others that don't
my torino did that with the holley 450 on it...swapped to the 600DP doesn't do that anymore.
the 550 franken-holley on my truck did that...swapped the 450 (from the torino) on it  now it don't do that Shocked WTF IDK?????
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I had a '63 big block galaxie that would do the same thing. What it turned out to be in my case was the motor ran 195 degrees at idle, and wouldn't rise above while the car was running.  But when I shut it off, it would rise to 260 degrees or better.  It would boil the fuel out of the carb while it sat.  I installed phenolic spacers between the carbs and the intake, and the problem went away.  Just a thought.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2017 at 8:32AM
that's what I'm thinking too, it's not the fuel line going empty but the fuel boiling out of the carb causing a flooded condition when you go to re-start. the extended cranking time is the motor clearing out until it can fire and the carb re-filling. if it was just the line to the carb draining down the carb would still have fuel in it and fire right off
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MrSmog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2017 at 12:13PM
my 302 did the same thing, after a tune up and a little playin with the timin light, haven't had that problem rear its head again. odd.
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