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i added phenolic spacers on most of my cars yes it helped with some that were boiling over, the cranking issue is when they sit more than a week...
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The car rarely runs over 165 degrees. I have a 160 degree thermostat, aluminum radiator, etc. Mechanical gauge. I can sit in traffic for an hour, shut it off and it will fire up instantly in 1 minute, 5 minutes or 3 hours - no difference. It is not flooding, as there is zero gas in the carb or the line. I would agree with it boiling out, except no odor, no flooding (actually never floods), no leaks, and no vapor trail. If it sits overnight, I can stand over the carb, work the linkage and no gas squirting in the carb. Also I can pull off the fuel line from the pump to carb and it is empty. As mentioned, it did not do this until we did some mods to the engine - which should not have made any difference. I may try a different carb to see what happens, if I can find one.

It just disappears.
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" Running a Carter 650 (Edelbrock clone). "
 
haha the Carter is the real deal from the 50's?  Edelbrock is the clone
 
maybe try pulling the carb off & setting it on the bench. set it nice & flat on a coffee can or something & check it every few until you see where the fuel is making it's way out the bottom
 
quadrajets are famous for a squashed plug in the main body hidden sandwiched by the base plate. common rebuild fix is to epoxy over the plug. the rebuild kit even has a diaper for the known leak
 
could be the old school carb has a manufacturing process that's been updated in the new renditions?
 
BTW those original Carters have become desirable, hard to find & possibly valuable for the right carb number 


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I appreciate it! I'll try that first, then move on to another test. Thanks for the info on the carb and that 5 bolt 289.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 72FordGTS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-December-2017 at 1:43PM
I haven't had a chance to comment on this, but I agree with Rock about the fuel bowl leaking somewhere.  My first thought was of the leaking Q-Jet plugs, as I have had this problem on some of my previously owned cars. 
I have also read that modern gas is much more prone to evaporation, especially if it's an ethanol blend.  According to Ray Bohacz, it's common for cars with carbs to have their gas evaporate if left sitting for any period of time.  He says that modern gas is made for cars with closed systems, so evaporation isn't an issue for most cars.  I do notice with my car, if it sits for two or three days it starts up quickly.  But if it sits say a week or more, I have to crank it more to get the fuel back into the carb.
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That may well be the issue. Still have to figure out why it drains the fuel line from the pump to carb, and possibly even further. I drove it yesterday and have to move it today, so I might video how it starts. Thanks guys.
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Look for a pinhole leak on the suction part of the fuel line (between the tank and the pump) and make sure you have the proper gas cap. (vented vs. unvented)
if you deleted the vapor canister and sealed it's line, you may need a vented cap.
The above post should be read in a "Grumpy Old Man" voice.
Almost forgot: "Get off my lawn!!!"
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Took the '72 out all day today. Went to Home Depot, Lowes, ran errands, got kerosene, etc. All with no heater, but a toboggan, layers of clothes, a jolly attitude and I was grinning the whole time.
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 Clap sweet!
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Nice! It's-20 here today so even if my Torino had a motor I wouldn't be driving it.
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I enjoyed it. It was 25 degrees outside, but no ice, so I was good to go. This is such a good car to drive, I really want to get the cold start issue resolved.
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EFI Joe, it works wonders. I've been driving a few times to work in the last couple weeks. Starting without any issues, on the first crank, in 10-15F. Mind you too my car only pulls 4.5" of vacuum at idle, so imagine how much better it would be on a stockish engine. The only issues are no wipers, no heater and plenty of rust holes to keep me cool while moving at anything over 5 mph.
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I do have that Holley 4 pot efi setup with a controller. Just have to figure out how to rig it all up.
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" rig it all up" see that's why i'm old school , bolt it on...couple hose clamps...and a jesus clip or two and your done!Wink
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74 CORVETTE COUPE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
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75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
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