Cardone steering gearbox replacement opinions ???
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Topic: Cardone steering gearbox replacement opinions ???
Posted By: tonym9
Subject: Cardone steering gearbox replacement opinions ???
Date Posted: 31-January-2014 at 4:00PM
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don't want my original weeper box making a mess under the hood with the fresh paint. doing research on replacements. looks like oriely's has a cardone box....32 spline but it doesn't list the amount of turns, assume 4. 27-6541 would prefer faster ratio but want 32 spline to match vs 26. Already have MOOG boxes in the garage  anyone have any bad stories about Cardone? Haven't used them before. any discount codes for oriellys? TIA ------------- 72 GTSFB |
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Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 31-January-2014 at 10:41PM
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FWIW, I purchased a Cardone PS pump to replace my original Saginaw PS pump, after a couple of months it started leaking at the front shaft seal, I installed new seal and hasn't leaked since. I have generally had good luck with Cardone products. ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 01-February-2014 at 1:47AM
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Cardone/A-1 parts can be hit or miss. Check it for obvious defects before you install it. Keep an eye on it, if it's got a problem it usually shows up shortly after installing. I got a distributor and noticed there was no roll pin installed in the drive gear. I'm glad I saw that before installation. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: BadHabit351
Date Posted: 04-February-2014 at 7:59AM
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Lares sells a box that is "fast ratio" (3.5 turns). Advance Auto has it for $100 ------------- 1973/72 Gran Torino Sport 1971 Torino GT convertilble 2013 Ford Fusion 2004 Ford SuperDuty 2013 Mustang GT |
Posted By: galvarado
Date Posted: 23-February-2014 at 12:33PM
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I second the Lares box from Advance. I just received mine. It's not installed yet but I read on this forum it's a definite improvement. You never know what you're going to get with a Cardone steering box. I'm speaking from my past experience with a Cardone box as well as a Lares box. |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 23-February-2014 at 1:00PM
The kid at Autozone down the street calls cardone "cabron"  ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 23-February-2014 at 3:18PM
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Lares box is 3.5, that HAS to be an improvement on the box in my 76 Elite! It feels like you are turning the wheel on a battleship! I know there were threads before on other box options... Anyone recall or know if there are any other direct swap/bolt in boxes and what the turns are? ------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: Montego01
Date Posted: 24-February-2014 at 4:06AM
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I also installed a Lares. No problems installing. Haven't tried it out yet since I'm still doing my build. ------------- Scott http://forum.grantorinosport.org/my-1972-montego-gt-429-project_topic9557.html" rel="nofollow - 72 Montego GT 429 build thread 1966 Chevy C10 1973 Montego MX 2004 Bonneville GXP |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 1:42AM
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I'm in the middle of a front suspension rebuild, so I'm going to tackle this while I'm there. I'm kinda new to this. I've never replaced one before.
Advance lists two Lares Gear boxes.
840 - w/ Ford gear
841 - Quick Ratio
I'm assuming I want the Quick Ratio? ------------- Jeff 71 Torino Brougham 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 1:57AM
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Yep. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: BadHabit351
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 2:03AM
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Used the 841 in my 72. Good box with descent characteristics. Big improvement over what I pulled out. ------------- 1973/72 Gran Torino Sport 1971 Torino GT convertilble 2013 Ford Fusion 2004 Ford SuperDuty 2013 Mustang GT |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 4:46AM
So, like I said, I've never done much with steering stuff. This is my 2nd suspension rebuild. It definitely came apart much faster than the first one. 
My steering has been whining a little bit when I turn the wheel, since I got the wagon. Any recommendations on what that could be? Might as well take care of it too. P/S Pump I'm assuming? Could the box cause that? ------------- Jeff 71 Torino Brougham 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 5:03AM
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One other thing. I was looking at RockAuto's website. It's telling me this:
LARES Part # 841 < id=node413part1moreinfo =moreinfo_default title="Click for more ination about part" value=Info => Power Gear; Reman
Quick ratio; Works w/ Lares Steering Coupling Assembly 202 Is the Coupling Assembly required? ------------- Jeff 71 Torino Brougham 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 6:53AM
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the Saginaw & Ford steering gear box input splines are likely different new rag joint isn't a bad idea regardless, but you'll want the right one for sure what type gear box was in the car? top cover, 2 bolts or 4 ? ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 7:50AM
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I'm not sure. It's still in the car. Was trying to get my parts lined up before diving into it this weekend. Will I be able to tell while it's still in the car? Is Saginaw OEM? My wagon is a 2 owner car with 150k miles. If I had to guess, it still has the original box. ------------- Jeff 71 Torino Brougham 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 7:54AM
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different year/model Fords came with both Sag & Ford boxes the top cover is pretty easy to see in the car 2 bolts is a Ford box, 4 bolts is a Saginaw you may even find an ID tag that you can read? http://www.stangerssite.com/steeringboxtagdecoder.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.stangerssite.com/steeringboxtagdecoder.html http://my.cardone.com/techdocs/PT%2027-0002.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://my.cardone.com/techdocs/PT%2027-0002.pdf ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 7:58AM
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I was doing some reading. I'm "green" to all of this. I've got a lot of play in my steering. So much so, that my wife is scared to drive the wagon. Could the rag joint be all that I need, in order to fix this? Why would one need to replace the box? ------------- Jeff 71 Torino Brougham 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 25-March-2014 at 8:31AM
the gear boxes can & do wear out, leak etc... sounds like you need to hold up & get the car checked out by someone that knows what to look at. the steering linkage can also be so wiped out to cause what you're describing, or the ball joints, control arm bushings... the steering gear box on many cars never needs replacing but all the rest of the stuff I mentioned does ------------- 72 GT Ute |
n2fordwagons wrote:Posted By: BadHabit351
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 2:06AM
Mine bolted to the factory setup...just like it was made for it  ------------- 1973/72 Gran Torino Sport 1971 Torino GT convertilble 2013 Ford Fusion 2004 Ford SuperDuty 2013 Mustang GT |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 2:47AM
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Pay particularly close attention to the splined area of the steering coupler. I do my fair share of junkyard searching for needed "gems" and I have picked up a couple of intermediate shafts to have as a replacement if the need arises. Both of them had issues with the couplers, splines where worn to a point they are no longer useable(I realize there is a large flat area to "key" the coupler to the steering box's input shaft, but the splines keep the coupler "positively" engaged to input shaft and greatly reduce any play/movement between the two components). These were taken from vehicles that looked to be completely stock condition(other than being in a junkyard and over 30 years old) as they would have been when they left the factory. This coupler is one of those parts that seldom, if ever gets looked at as a wear item, after seeing the two examples I have, that perspective has completely changed for me. Really scary, to be honest. Just a "heads-up". Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 5:58AM
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That is a scary thought. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 6:24AM
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Todd is the wear/damage you found because the clamp bolt became loose at some point & didn't hold the coupler securely? ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 7:27AM
Rock, On the last one I removed the nut/bolt on the coupler that indexes the steering box input shaft was tight, tight enough in fact I used my 18V Dewalt impact driver to remove the nut and had to tap the index bolt out with a hammer. I was surprised to see the spline condition once back to my warehouse after cleaning up the intermediate shaft(didn't notice the damaged splines until at my warehouse, after purchase of course  ). I have pulled the splined couplers from a mid 70's Jeep and a mid 70's GM car(both had Saginaw boxes) and both showed sings of deteriorated or compromised splines inside the coupler. It almost looked like corrosion due to dissimilar metals, like when aluminum is attached to steel. The steering box input shaft almost never showed damage but the coupler was another story, to tell the truth it really surprised me. I would hate to find out if and/or when the coupler would totally lose all the splines while driving  . I think I can get some decent pics of what I found if they would be helpful. Todd Here is a pic of the damaged/missing splines I found in one of the couplers. This coupler was attached to the steering box I removed from a '79 Ranchero and rebuilt with Jeep Grand Cherokee internals to make it a quick ratio steering box, so I know the input shaft was in good to excellent shape.  Over half of the splines were missing, scary in deed. This is a pic of what the splines should look like, even though this coupler is for a different steering box.  I hope this helps someone before an accident occurs. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 10:28AM
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could it be cast vs hard/alloy steel electrolosys? or do you think it's just moisture in the joint & the cast loses big time? looks like sometimes just the rubber 'rag' isn't the easy fix ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: bmf
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 11:18AM
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I do not think that there is any real danger as the bolt fits into a notch in the shaft , both top and bottom. as long as the bolts are good (and tight), there should be no problem. I would change it if I found it, but I would not worry about it. Please tell me if I am wrong and why. Ray ------------- "I am completely broke and have the ability to sustain that" |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 12:25PM
Good questions, could be electrolysis, moisture causing rust or a combination of both. It was just an eye opening thing to see, half or more of the splines gone or wore away. Just wanted to give a heads-up to others, that the flexible rag joint isn't the "only" issue to inspect when having a loose feeling in the steering. Both of the Saginaw couplers looked damaged like the one pictured, the other coupler that fits the Jeeps input shaft has no or very little corrosion(probably has something to do with it being over 25 years newer ). Todd------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 12:29PM
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Wow. With the steering issues I'm having with my wagon, it is a very real possibility that the splines are gone on mine. Especially with it sitting so many years. Thanks for making us aware of this. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 12:47PM
The issue is mainly that the splines carry most of the steering load(like an axle handles the rotational force through the splined area, more surface area equals more force can be safely applied), the flat area does carry some of the load, but once the splines loose there "fit" and the coupler becomes loose, the flat area will surely start to deform or possibly crack(due to being a cast piece) after repeated rotational stresses from everyday driving. The index in the steering box input shaft is there to keep the coupler on the input shaft and to squeeze the coupler, through the index bolt's tightening, so the splines in the coupler and the input shaft shall have absolutely no movement between one another. It is possible a coupler with failed splines may never give a moments trouble, but putting myself, my family or other folks/family's lives in danger will NEVER be worth that risk. I just wanted to bring this situation to other forum members attention, it could be another point of interest to look into if steering ailments need addressed on your vehicle. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 12:53PM
Believe me when I say it was a serious "AH-HA" moment when I saw the condition of the splines on both couplers. I definitely hope this helps someone. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: bmf
Date Posted: 26-March-2014 at 1:32PM
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Well, I dont live in a rusty area and I have never run into that problem. However I did state that if I found it I would change it. Thanx ------------- "I am completely broke and have the ability to sustain that" |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 27-March-2014 at 12:22AM
BMF, I did not mean to insinuate that you would continue driving or refuse to fix an unsafe vehicle, if it came out that way and/or you read it that way, I apologize. In my response, I was referring to myself when I wrote myself, my family or other folks/family's, I was not referring to you or any other member. Sometimes what I write doesn't come out as well or as articulate as I would like  . Todd------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: bmf
Date Posted: 27-March-2014 at 6:27AM
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No appology needed. I did not take it that way at all. After all, I did ask for opinions. I tend to put whole paragraphs int 3or4 words. I know what I intended, but others, not so much.Sorry for the drama, Ray ------------- "I am completely broke and have the ability to sustain that" |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 30-March-2014 at 2:24PM
Todd, I found this situation on 3 of my steering columns. Afraid to pull the ones on my drivers. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 30-March-2014 at 2:52PM
I am glad you brought this back up, I may have found some conflicting information about these couplers and the spline counts. I found where the replacement couplers have 32 splines(Ford box) and 10 splines(Saginaw box). I can not confirm, either way, if these are correct spline counts for a "factory" coupler. These could just be what the aftermarket has designed. The Saginaw coupler has less splines but has a flat area inside the coupler to aid in "locating" the steering box input shaft(the splines are always opposite the flat area inside the coupler). The Ford box coupler looks to be fully splined, not sure if it also has an internal flat area like the Saginaw coupler has. I have tried to research this but I do not have any concrete evidence for or against my initial findings. I do know that the couplers I have, DO show signs of corrosion and spline deterioration, I just hope I didn't set off any un-needed alarms posting my earlier findings. Todd BTW, those splines look to be compromised. Looks like something is causing the splines to wear away or wear out  . Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 01-April-2014 at 5:12PM
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Wow, thank you guys. I know on my GTS my police box is about done. My steering has gotten worse over the last year. Went from tight to gradually more loose. My front end is getting a full rebuild in the next few months. I'm being lazy, but anyone have the links for the box and the steering couplers? I have the 1971 Boss mustang box from Paul Psquare75, but it's got old seals. Now I'm curious on the shape of mine. -------------  Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 02-April-2014 at 10:06AM
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I don't think I've ever pulled one of those apart that DIDN'T have some of the splines mashed down. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 02-April-2014 at 10:29AM
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My Squire wagon's were in excellent condition when I did the swap on it, but that car led a very sheltered life before I got it. I dread looking at the others. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 30-April-2014 at 5:24PM
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Todd, is there a buildup on the use of Jeep internals on your box? I was also digging around and came across a guy off the 460forum, and he was on Supermotors, and mentioning a mod on his from upper arms to get rid of some unwanted issues our suspension design suffers from. What about the hoses? Assuming the Lares uses different hoses? ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 30-April-2014 at 5:38PM
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Sorry, further clarification: The 841 box, does it use the Ford gear box hoses, or does it use the saginaw box hoses? ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 2:38AM
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There are some variables on these cars. I swapped a '96-'98 Grand Cherokee Saginaw box into my Squire wagon. Direct fit, output shaft was indexed every 90 degrees so I just repositioned my arm. Input shaft coupling was one I had in my garage, fit perfectly. VAST difference in the feel and would be even better with a plastic pump, as the discharge hole in the plastic pump is larger (more firm feel). Others have said that the holes in their frames don't match up to that box or the coupling would not work. I plan on doing the exact same swap on my red wagon this month using a GC box and the plastic pump (eliminating that awful manual steering) when I do my other mods. Hopefully it will bolt on as easily as the other did. I will make a thread and show pictures as I go, if that will help. Somewhere on here is a thread where I showed the similarities in the Saginaw and Jeep boxes and the regular Ford box - perhaps someone can find it? ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 11:26AM
Post some pics of your JGC steering box installed, I'm interested for sure. The mounting bolt locations differ from a Ford/Mercury intermediate, at least for my application anyway. This is a pic of a '94 Jeep Grand Cherokee Saginaw steering box.  Here is a pic of a mid to late 70's Ford Ranchero Saginaw steering box, notice the differences in mounting bolt locations.  . I know if the JGC box was a direct bolt-in for my application, I would not have went to the trouble of swapping parts. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 11:44AM
Andy, Sorry, I have no write-up or pics of the swapping of parts. I just picked up another JGC steering box to swap the internals to a box I originally removed from my Ranchero to save if the other swap didn't work out. It WILL get the JGC internals, it makes that much of a difference. I will take a bunch of pics, but it will be a while before I get a chance to work on the boxes. When I swapped the internals I kept the original input rotary valve to keep the input shaft spline to steering coupler the same. I changed the rack, the worm gear and the ball bearings, I used a rebuild kit designed for a '79 Ranchero gear box, everything went together correctly with no machine work. The JGC has the same degrees of output shaft rotation so the internal stops from the Ford/Saginaw box works correctly(a Camaro/Firebird/Monte Carlo quick ratio box has less degrees of output shaft rotation which equals a larger turning radius=not good). It was a pretty straight-forward operation, messing with the ball bearing was the worst part. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 1:02PM
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you guys ready for this, hold on to something... the Cherokee off road guys swap out their Jeep box & use a Dodge a guy I worked with told me the Dodge box is stronger does the interchange reach all the way back to Ford intermediates... IDK here's a forum post that came up in a quick search http://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/durango-steering-box-swap-simplified-184573/" rel="nofollow - http://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/durango-steering-box-swap-simplified-184573/ ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 2:59PM
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I don't know what year Torino box you have pictured, but it is not like the ones I used. If you search under this section for Cherokee Box, I included pictures of a '74 Torino Saginaw box, '72 Ford box, '96 GC box, and a '98 GC box. The '74 Torino has an extra mounting boss you need not use (4). I pulled these off ZJ Jeeps I was parting out. The one on my brown wagon works great. Front steer or rear steer makes no difference, as the output shaft is indexed every 90 degrees, so you just flip the direction. I will make detailed pictures of the swap on my red wagon when I do it next month. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 01-May-2014 at 3:54PM
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I was getting ready to just pop for the 841 lares box. I have the '71 boss mustang box I got from Paul a while back, but it's a leaker and I'm just debating about things. Figure just go with a reman box. I have a local rebuilder here I am going to deal with, I have a stack of four ford boxes I was going to give him just so they could revoker parts if they needed them. I don't see rebuilding a box that big a deal but I'm in the mindset I'll let a shop do it as they have the know-how and I like steering my car lol. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 02-May-2014 at 4:35AM
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Didn't mean to confuse anyone on the gear box alternatives. It is just what worked for me. The heavy duty forum replacement box for a ZJ is a Dodge Durango box. However, it is physically larger - probably prohibitively so. XJ and ZJ Jeeps have plenty of room in that area, so not a big deal. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 02-May-2014 at 11:33AM
Here are a couple of pics of the steering boxes I have on hand and will use for the quick ratio internals swap, one of a Jeep Grand Cherokee and one of a '79 Ranchero steering box, both built by Saginaw. Here is the JGC steering gear.  Here is the Ranchero gearbox.  These pics show the different mounting bolt locations, not sure when Ford changed this(one of Ford's "better ideas" I guess). The Ranchero gearbox was removed when I installed the quick ratio rebuilt gearbox, so I know it fits correctly. I hope I haven't added any confusion to this topic. Todd ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |