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Topic: New Project
Posted By: Paul100ca
Subject: New Project
Date Posted: 24-November-2014 at 8:13AM
I just joined this forum. I recently purchased a 75 Torino in great shape from the original owner. 95000 miles on it, not winter driven. I'm going to tackle the rims/tires and exhaust before paint. I'm thinking 15's front and back with wider wheels in back. I'm looking for slot mags,  Ansen has some that look good. Any suggestions from you folks on wheels? Aspect ratios on tires? I'm thinking 60 or 70. I will raise the back end probably with lifting shackles to get the correct profile. Is flowmaster the best choice for the exhaust? I'm going to do a dual setup. I  want a bit of rumble, but not a harley.Big smile  Any ideas are appreciated, thanks. Beer



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Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 24-November-2014 at 3:03PM
Welcome to the forum, can't wait to follow your project.

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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 24-November-2014 at 5:20PM
WELCOME to the Family!!
 
17 pages of tire/wheel size reading...
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/the-official-tire-size-thread_topic2154.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/the-official-tire-size-thread_topic2154.html


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2014 at 7:55PM
welcome! start a build thread and post some pics, i've got 15 x 10 ET's rear and 15 x 8 ET's on the front

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 25-November-2014 at 4:06AM
Thanks, I'm out of town but will post some pics this weekend. My mechanic gets it on Friday, will discuss the rim/tire options.


Posted By: 75GranMan
Date Posted: 25-November-2014 at 8:41PM
welcome, post up some pix of your car, and as Cali John said start a project thread. Your 75 has coil spring suspension...so shackles won't work, I'd recommend station wagon springs for a nice rake.But we call talk about the mechanicals in your project thread. It's always great to meet a new owner. You've chosen the correct place to share your car.

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John 75Gran Torino 4spd
Tighten it down until it snaps and then back it off a half turn!


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 25-November-2014 at 11:01PM
Welcome aboard Paul!
One thing you will discover quickly about us here on the site is that we are a bunch of PICTURE HO's!!!!!
 
Look forward to seeing your car and watching your build....
 
Good luck!


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TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: legend onirot
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 2:46AM
welcome.  

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malcolm
1973 gran torino sport (formal)... "Stacy Lynn"
1972 gran torino (formal)... "Mackenzie"
1973 gran torino sport (sportroof)... "Leela"


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 3:45AM
Thanks gents. I'm getting my mechanic to do a full tune up as well. The front end/steering seems a little loose, but the suspension and brakes are good. The car is blue with matching interior. Interior will have to stay blue as the budget is limited, though it's in great shape. Fuel guage doesn't work and engine temp guage only moves a little past "C" when driving it. Pics coming soon . I found a pair of sport mirrors on ebay  I'm buying as it only has one chrome mirror now.


Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 9:48AM
Welcome!  Loose steering might be your rag joint, a very common wear item on these cars.  Ansen still makes some nice slot mags.  Not sure what the consensus is on air shocks now-a-days.  That might be an option to raise the back end.  Looking forward to pics and you progress!!

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Jeff

71 Torino Brougham
72 Gran Torino Squire


Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 11:38AM
As far as rear springs go, there is a whole thread on coil springs:
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/info-the-coil-spring-thread_topic2746.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/info-the-coil-spring-thread_topic2746.html
If you want to raise the rear for that 70s-80s rake, here is some specific info in a chart with MOOG part #s. CC springs are cargo-coils, and the mark V springs will raise you an inch to an inch and a half above stock.
Spring #coil i.d.bar diainstalled heightloadspring ratefree heightendsyearmodel
82235.650.6610115018616.18pphardtophdconstant77mark V
83075.660.619.7590715815.49pphardtopstandardconstant6.6 40076torino
83915.660.621099318115.49pphardtophdconstant6.677ltd 2
85315.660.639.7594718314.94pphardtophdconstant6.6 40076torino
85395.670.599.7596314316.5ppwagonstandardconstant6.6 40076torinobird
85435.650.6710.5126319716.8pphardtopstandardconstant79mark V
85455.660.619.75105014416.93pphardtopstandardconstant6.677ltd 2
cc8015.430.649.7587019214.5pprancherovariable5.0 5.8 6.677ranchero
cc8035.430.759.75133030514.19ppwagonvariable6.6 40076torino
cc8075.430.649.75100018015.25pphardtopvariable6.6 40076torinobird
cc8115.430.7510.5135031514.78ppwagonvariable5.877ltd 2


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"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD
How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds?


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 11:21AM
K, here goes nuthin.
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/IMG_20141115_124326_zps754273d3.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 11:23AM
It worked, okay, here's a few more.
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http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/IMG_20141115_124347_zpsa7f2a046.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/IMG_20141115_1243082_zpsacb68617.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/IMG_20141115_124315_zps0a406dd0.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 
That's all I have for now.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 11:55AM
Any ideas on rims/tires?  I'm thinking 15" all around, wider in the rear. Ansen sprint wheels look ideal but not sure they will fit? What is the original bolt pattern/size? Thanks. Beer


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 12:06PM
wow! i wish my car was in that good of shape when i got it! bolt pattern is 5 on 4 1/2" i've got 15 X 10 (4" back spacing) with 275/60/15 on the rear 15 X 8 on the front with 235/50/15 (not available anymore) so i'll go with 235/60/15 later. these cars have a lot of room in the wheel wells!


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: GranTorinslo
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 12:50PM
Ansen sprints are great wheels, but as far as I know American Racing is the place still making slotted mags. I have Ansens, not only are they increasingly harder to find, but I have only ever found ansens in a 14 in a torino bolt pattern. And some of the super wide rears that fit our bolt pattern have horrible offsets, which is why I dont have the 10" wide rear rims the car came with (because they sliced the sidewalls on my 1/4.

The american racing are available in 15s for sure and maybe bigger, and you can order to your bolt pattern and offset. I dont know if theyve dropped in price when I looked into it they were around 550-600 each.

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Posted By: GTW
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 1:10PM
That car looks great!

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Griffin
1973 Gran Torino station wagon
1972 Gran Torino 4 Door
1971 Maverick 2 Door


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 1:41PM
these should fit perfect for the rear as they are only 9" wide with a 5"b.s. none of the original 15 X10's had a 5"b.s. 3-4" which puts the rim outwards and could rub. 15x10 with 5"b.s.would be perfect but unfortunately none were ever made with a zero offset(5" b.s.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/15X9-US-MAGS-SLOT-5-lug-FORD-MOPAR-DODGE-MERC-5-ON-4-5-BOLT-PATTERN-MAGS-/271524801817?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item3f3823ad19&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/15X9-US-MAGS-SLOT-5-lug-FORD-MOPAR-DODGE-MERC-5-ON-4-5-BOLT-PATTERN-MAGS-/271524801817?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item3f3823ad19&vxp=mtr


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 28-November-2014 at 3:54AM
Thanks. Summitracing.com has the Ansen sprint wheels for 150-200$ each. They come in 15x7 and 15x8. Also 17' rims but that's too big. But I'm waiting for my mechanic to get the exact lug pattern and spacing for the rims. Kinda sounds like here it's 5 bolts on 4.5". Ermm


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 28-November-2014 at 3:57AM
it should be


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 28-November-2014 at 11:42AM
Michael,
This is the TV Hero#1.....
Everything I've read says they just added Hi-Jacker air shocks. Tires from that period were probably LR60-15's on 15 x 8.5 rims.
Here is my LE from the day.....
Hurst air Shocks (fully inflated) with Goodyear GT RADIAL LR60-15's on ET 15 x 10 slot mags.
Here is restored TV HERO#2....

Equipped with wagon rear springs, air shocks (not overly inflated) and 1 1/2" spacer on each spring, 275/60R15 tires on 15 x 8.5 rims. This is the car I'm cloning, so I will go the same route on mine.
Hope this helps!


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TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 28-November-2014 at 12:34PM
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/pass_side_zps8146b9c1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
I think this is the look/rake I'm going for. Wheels are the same diameter, not excessively fatter in back, rims are correct. I'm also taking the trim off the side of the car, I think the finished product looks better without it.


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 28-November-2014 at 2:36PM
Paul, I know who built the car you like... I'll have him chime in about the specifics.

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TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 29-November-2014 at 6:29AM
Thanks, that would be great. Thumbs Up


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 29-November-2014 at 8:34AM
what's up with #2? it's missing a lug nut!
are you planning on removing the lower rocker molding? or just the upper thin molding along the middle?


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Born_Again_Torinos
Date Posted: 29-November-2014 at 1:00PM
Hi, That particular torino I used gabriel high jackers. That is pretty much all I use to get the right rake.  I try to use 8.5 x 15" on the rear and 7 x 14" on the fronts when I have them. I use what I have at the time. Try P275-60-15 on the rear and P225-75-14 on the front.
Steve


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One 1973 Gran Torino
Seventeen 1974 Gran Torinos
Four 1975 Gran Torinos
Nine 1976 Gran Torinos
AND COUNTING!
http://www.bornagaintorinos.com


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 30-November-2014 at 3:10AM
Thanks. I'm removing just the thin molding along the middle.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 30-November-2014 at 3:45AM
I didn't know you could get 275 tires on a 8.5" rim. The 225/75/14 are original size when it was new. Thanks. Beer


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 30-November-2014 at 3:59AM
i agree with you i don't care for the thin trim either, but i've seen some that don't have the rocker molding at the bottom or the wheel trim, and i don't think that looks right either IMO!
yes a 275/60/15 tire will fit on a 8" rim, the 275's that i have were mounted on the funky 5 spoke 8" wheels that were on my car when i bought it, the 275's were really good so i just put them on the slots when i got them


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 01-December-2014 at 9:34AM
Thanks again for the info. I now have some rust issue with the frame. Pinch


Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 01-December-2014 at 12:54PM
Here's a pic of a Torino wagon running 17" slots.  I think it looks purdy good.
EDIT:  Just read through the 2nd page.  Didn't realize the exact look you were going for.  17's probably won't work for ya.
 
 


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Jeff

71 Torino Brougham
72 Gran Torino Squire


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 02-December-2014 at 3:50AM
Looks great but you're right, I'm looking for a different profile. Thanks.


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 02-December-2014 at 4:05AM
What part of the frame do you need? I have a 1974 - 1976 frame - just tell me where you need it cut.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 03-December-2014 at 6:44AM
My body guy found parts. He's working on it now, then back to the garage for the safety and engine tune-up. Then the rims/tires and suspension. Then the dual exhaust, and finally the paint. I'll keep the updates coming.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 09-December-2014 at 12:06PM
Frame is done, garage giving it a safety now, sorry no new pics yet.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 12-December-2014 at 8:29AM
The only things needed to pass safety are-1. fuel gauge doesn't work, and 2-windshield fluid spray doesn't work.  That's it. Garage searching for parts. Body guy has it again to get doors to close with no gaps.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 12-December-2014 at 11:08AM
fuel gauge: check the wire connectors for good contact, where it connects at the sending unit and the connector under the carpet below the brake pedal, if that all checks good to the gauge, then it may be the sender, but i'd check all that before you replace the sending unit and find out it's just a wireConfused
windshield washer: check for power at the plug on the washer jug, if you have power there then most likely it's the pump motor on the jug


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 14-December-2014 at 4:12AM
Thanks for the info. My body guy is also installing the sport mirrors I picked up on ebay. I will post a pick when I get it back from him.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 14-December-2014 at 5:12AM
yep that's one of the first thing i did too--sport mirrors from ebay, then mount 'em on the car Thumbs Up


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 15-December-2014 at 3:32AM
Thanks, my mechanic says the fuel gauge is getting a signal but the gauge is toast, and I need a washer fluid switch. He's looking for parts. Any thoughts on rims? I keep looking at the American racing Ansen sprint slot mags. Thoughts?


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 15-December-2014 at 1:15PM
paul, i just looked at the pics again you have a standard dash, are the wipers non delay? probably, if you can't find parts locally, i have a good std fuel gauge and std wiper switch out of my car both worked fine! let me know if you need them


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 16-December-2014 at 6:49AM
found a fuel gauge on ebay but only compatible with sport gauge package, which I don't have. Ouch


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 4:53AM
Still waiting for my body guy to finish aligning the doors when they're closed and installing the sport mirrors. Then a fluids change, new fuel filter, and start on the wheels. I'm going with Goodrich TA radials and working on the rims. Found a local supplier for Ansen slot mags but I want my garage to confirm bolt pattern before I order them


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 8:49AM
got it back from body guy, looks better, fluid changes done. Got a local Ansen dealer asking $170 for the rims, VN69 polished slot mags. He's suggesting 215/70/15 tires up front, 275/60/15 in back. I agree with the back sizing, not sure about the front? Seems narrow. Thoughts?Question


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 1:42PM
paul, i haven't been able to get to the post office yet on your parts, hopefully tomorrow,
 tires: what about a 225/60/15? some tire manufacturers don't offer a 235 but they have a 225, and the other way around. a 235/60/15 may be tight on a 7" rim, and a 70 series is pretty tall, i'd go with a 60 series, i think both of those sizes are available in the bfg t/a tire


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 1:58PM
225/60 or 235/60 are the way I would go.
I went with 235/60
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 2:02PM
Hey Regul8r, do you have any pics here of your ride?


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 2:16PM
John, whenever you can get to the post office is great. I checked bfg site and they make a 225/70/15, I'm still thinking 235/60 might be the way to go.


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 18-December-2014 at 3:37PM
New tires.
Not mounted yet.
 
Here are 17 pages of tire/wheel pics and discussions...
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/the-official-tire-size-thread_topic2154.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/the-official-tire-size-thread_topic2154.html
 
the best and probably most common combo on our 72-79 cars is 275/60/15 rear and 235/60/15 front.
they work well with 8" rims all the way around.
Nice rake, handles the weight, fits the wheel wells nice etc...


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 5:25AM
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/paul100ca/media/sandh/IMG_20141219_095659_zps17c3fb16.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
Up and running this morning. It was cold. note the sport mirrors. Going to order wheel package tomorrow.


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 8:29AM
Nice Torino!  What part of Ontario are you from?  What engine do you have in it?  Nice to see another Canadian.
I don't know if you've decided on you wheels or not yet, but here's my experience.  I have 15 x 8" wheels at all four corners on my 1972.  My wheels are repro Magnum 500's and they have a 4.5" backspacing.  There is good clearance all the way around and the front wheels don't rub at full lock.  The rears still have tons of room.
 
Now I didn't want the small/big tire look on my car, so I went with 245/60R-15's in BFG Radial T/A's all the way around (they were also close to the original G70-14's in diameter).  No issues with tire clearance and the BFG's are great street tires.  I wouldn't go smaller than a 235/60-15 in the front and a 245/60-15 or 255/60-15 would work well too.   The two smaller tires size could use a 15x7 or a 15x8 rims.  The 225/70-R15's are too short of a tire for they big wheel wells (in my opinion). These cars understeer and a tire too small on the front end will only make that worse.  The 275/60-15's are a great size for the rear and are not too far off the original tire diameter.
 
Obviously the look you are going for may dictate your tire choice.
 
Keep in mind the stock tires for your car is HR78-14's, which 27.6" tall. 
 
Here are some other specs to keep in mind when selecting a tire.  These are all available in the BFG Radial T/A line.
 
225/60-15's are 25.6" tall
235/60-15's are 26.1" tall
245/60-15's are 26.6" tall
255/70-15's are 27.0" tall
275/60-15's are 27.9" tall


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 8:50AM
Hey thanks, I'm in Ancaster, near Hamilton. It's a 351 Windsor,  nothing outside the ordinary, seems to run well. Gotta get use to these non-injected engines again. I've decided on 235/60/15 for the front and 275/60/15 for the rear. I checked the BFG site and it lists the 275's at a diameter of 71.1cm and the 235's at 66.3 cm diameter. I want the rear end up a bit. Going with Ansen sprint mags, 15x7 in front and 15x8 in back. And of course the BFG radials.


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 10:46AM
Here's another company offering the vintage slot mag wheel.... US MAGS
http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_images/wheels/xlarge/US%20Mags_Indy_17_A1-1000.png" rel="nofollow -
 
 
 
 
15x5, 15x7, 15x8
http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=299" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=299
product data sheet
http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_pdf/U101%20INDY%20MAG.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_pdf/U101%20INDY%20MAG.pdf
 
15x8, 15x9, 15x10, 17x9
http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=18334" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=18334
 
I think they look more vintage correct than the Ansen's from American Racing...
 
 
 
But that's my opinion. Not sure if you were aware of the US Mags or not......


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TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 11:37AM
Thanks, I'm checking them out now.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 11:50AM
Strange thing, on the US mag site, when I enter my postal code, it shows closest dealer 75 miles away. When I search their list of international dealers, there's one showing 30 minutes away. I will call that one tomorrow. Not sure if there's a quality difference between US mags and Ansen? Both look fairly close to each other.


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 12:02PM
Originally posted by TV 2M8O TV 2M8O wrote:

Here's another company offering the vintage slot mag wheel.... US MAGS
http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_images/wheels/xlarge/US%20Mags_Indy_17_A1-1000.png" rel="nofollow -
 
 
 
 
15x5, 15x7, 15x8
http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=299" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=299
product data sheet
http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_pdf/U101%20INDY%20MAG.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_pdf/U101%20INDY%20MAG.pdf
 
15x8, 15x9, 15x10, 17x9
http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=18334" rel="nofollow - http://www.mhtwheels.com/mht-luxury-alloy-wheel.cfm?id=18334
 
I think they look more vintage correct than the Ansen's from American Racing...
 
 
 
But that's my opinion. Not sure if you were aware of the US Mags or not......
 
IF those pics are correct...
You HAVE to go with the US Mags!
Those Ansens look hideous!
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 12:07PM
I'm calling in the morning to get a price. Ansens were 170$


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 12:34PM
Originally posted by Regul8r Regul8r wrote:

IF those pics are correct...
You HAVE to go with the US Mags!
Those Ansens look hideous!
 
I pulled those picture directly off the corresponding web sites!
US MAGS: http://us-mags.com/vintage-1-piece-cast-c-3365.htm" rel="nofollow - http://us-mags.com/vintage-1-piece-cast-c-3365.htm
 
AMERICAN RACING: http://www.americanracing.com/wheels" rel="nofollow - http://www.americanracing.com/wheels


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TV 2M8O OUT
JOE
1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: ilyes
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 1:10PM
Nice car, I really like those hub caps, they give the car such a personality.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 1:58PM
another added benefit to buying new wheels, they should have better alloys in the modern aluminum so they should shine better! did you have the mirrors painted, or were they the same blue?  looks good keep the pics and updates comingThumbs Up 

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 4:05PM
mirrors were grey, I didn't ask the body guy to paint them, he just did.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 19-December-2014 at 4:25PM
that's what i thought. mine were gray primer, drivers side one had like ten different colors under that, so i stripped them and did it right


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 21-December-2014 at 4:08AM
I might need a bottom sill piece of chrome for the pass side door, mine is a smidge rough. Where could I find that piece? The outside piece I mean under the door.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 21-December-2014 at 5:35AM
you mean the rocker molding? they can be hard to find, i'm looking for the rear  passenger side one now, but the long side ones seem to interchange from side to side even though they claim there are rights and lefts. you could try NOS PARTS LTD, the guy told me he had 7 or 8 of the side ones they all had a slight bend in them??? he can send you pics of the piece, IIRC they were $120 each i never saw pics of those so???IDK how bad the crease in those are? but could be worth a phone call to them (i posted their info in the venders section)


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 21-December-2014 at 12:27PM
Thanks, let me know when you send those parts. Beer


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 22-December-2014 at 2:25AM
Originally posted by Paul100ca Paul100ca wrote:

Hey thanks, I'm in Ancaster, near Hamilton. It's a 351 Windsor,  nothing outside the ordinary, seems to run well. Gotta get use to these non-injected engines again. I've decided on 235/60/15 for the front and 275/60/15 for the rear. I checked the BFG site and it lists the 275's at a diameter of 71.1cm and the 235's at 66.3 cm diameter. I want the rear end up a bit. Going with Ansen sprint mags, 15x7 in front and 15x8 in back. And of course the BFG radials.
That tire size difference should give a the car a fair bit of rake.  You can always swap out the rear springs too if the new tires don't give you enough rake.  They are still readily available at parts vendors.  I have family not too far from you in the Brantford area.  Good luck with your project.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 22-December-2014 at 5:35AM
Thanks


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 22-December-2014 at 5:42AM
Just ordered US mags Indy U101 rims. But won't be deliverd until Feb.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 22-December-2014 at 1:53PM
paul, PM sent and parts sent Thumbs Up


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 22-December-2014 at 2:31PM
PepBoys... Futura SuperSport GLS 235/60/15 and 275/60/15 all 4 delivered to my door for $310
 

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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 23-December-2014 at 4:38AM
Thanks gents. Since I'm now waiting for the wheel package I'll do the dual exhaust in the near future.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 29-December-2014 at 12:29PM
Just ordered the US mags U101 Indy's with BFG radial ta's 235/60/15 and 275/60/15. Rims are 15x7 and 15x8. Total cost for both, installed, taxes in.......$1650  Cdn. Rims won't be in until late Jan or Feb but no real rush. Going to see a "connection" about the dual exhaust shortly.Beer


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 29-December-2014 at 1:52PM
nice


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 30-December-2014 at 12:46PM
Just for full disclosure, I sold this to finance my project. It was a sweet summer ride.
 
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Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 06-January-2015 at 7:45AM
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Parts made it from Cali John, going to garage tomorrow to finish the safety, then exhaust guy in 2 weeks


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 06-January-2015 at 3:08PM
Clap awesome to see my parts from my car reused on another car, and in another country no less! Thumbs Up

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 07-January-2015 at 4:53AM
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A cool 10 degrees F this morning, started up without much problem. Sits in my unheated garage.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 07-January-2015 at 4:56AM
My bad, here it is
 
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Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 12-January-2015 at 5:55AM
Parts from Cali John work, thanks brother. But now I need a fuel sending unit...anyone know where I can get one?Ouch


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 12-January-2015 at 6:26AM
Saw some available in online parts sites. Does anyone know the original part number? I want to make sure I order the right one. Thanks.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 13-January-2015 at 9:11AM
Part ordered from classic car auto parts. I just went under the gas tank and looked at the unit. One line. Easy peasy.


Posted By: 75GranMan
Date Posted: 13-January-2015 at 1:44PM
There's a good possibility that that your brass float has a hole in it, and is satuated with fuel. Does the gauge remain on empty all the time?

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John 75Gran Torino 4spd
Tighten it down until it snaps and then back it off a half turn!


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 14-January-2015 at 3:00AM
The old one did, mechanic told me the new gauge works but I need a sending unit. That's all I know. This is the last item it needs to pass it's safety. 


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 16-January-2015 at 9:49AM
Sending unit was shipped yesterday, hopefully get it next week. In the mean time my rims and tires are in, Yay. Approve However the tire shop is 75 miles away and it's still not safetied without that sending unit. Thumbs Down So I have to wait until it's safetied to take it in for it's wheel package install. I will try to get it to exhaust guy next week while I wait for the part. Concurrent activity as we said in the Air Force. Also, I'm hoping to get it to my painter next weekend for his estimate.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-January-2015 at 12:19PM
painter??? man paul, you're moving right along Clap remember don't forget the pics Thumbs Up

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 17-January-2015 at 10:17AM
I will send a pic as soon as I have something new to show. Hopefully soon.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 21-January-2015 at 12:20PM
Sending unit came in today, going to the mechanic tomorrow to finish the safety check, finally. Quote on the new exhaust is $1100 plus tax for a stainless dual exhaust setup. Going to painters Sat for his estimate.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 21-January-2015 at 12:56PM
Clap wow, is that 409 grade stainless or 304? keep us updated Big smile


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 22-January-2015 at 2:26AM
You guys amaze me with your speed on these projects.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 22-January-2015 at 4:09AM
I have no idea on the grade of stainless. Is there a big difference? The anodized aluminum was $300 less.


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 22-January-2015 at 9:04AM
The 304 is better quality and less likely to corrode.  409 is cheaper but will corrode with time, especially if you drive the car in the winter.  409 is still far better than aluminized IMO.

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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 22-January-2015 at 12:02PM
Thanks. Sending unit was installed today, gauge works, safety done. Finally. Painter estimate Sat, wheels installed next week, then suspension.


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 25-January-2015 at 3:05AM
Just went to my painter yesterday for his estimate.......he could have at least kissed me first. Cry  Looks like my dual exhaust will have to wait another year. I will just swap the muffler for a better sounding one as my budget is now kaput. On the bright side the painter is awesome. They will strip the car down, removing all chrome and trim not just covering it when they paint. They painted my brother's 78 corvette recently, looks mint. Anyone know where I can find the chrome outside rocker panels for under the door? My pax side one is pitted. Thanks. Beer


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 25-January-2015 at 7:34AM
paul, i don't remember if i mentioned this already, but these guys had 7 or 8 of those side rockers
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/nos-parts-ltd_topic13177.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/nos-parts-ltd_topic13177.html


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 25-January-2015 at 11:24AM
Originally posted by Paul100ca Paul100ca wrote:

Just went to my painter yesterday for his estimate.......he could have at least kissed me first. Cry  Looks like my dual exhaust will have to wait another year. I will just swap the muffler for a better sounding one as my budget is now kaput. On the bright side the painter is awesome. They will strip the car down, removing all chrome and trim not just covering it when they paint. They painted my brother's 78 corvette recently, looks mint. Anyone know where I can find the chrome outside rocker panels for under the door? My pax side one is pitted. Thanks. Beer
 
You might be able to save a few bucks on the paint job if you strip all the chrome and trim yourself.  I am not a painter, but the last car I had painted, I stripped it and even did most of the prep.  Saved me tons of money.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 26-January-2015 at 3:35AM
I sent an email to nosparts, Thanks for the tip about stripping the car parts. Unfortunately I'm not all that handy and don't have a ton of extra time. We agreed on a price that included them doing all that work. But thanks for the info. Beer


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 29-January-2015 at 11:52AM
Sadly nosparts doesn't have the rockers. I found stainless steel ones on ebay but I'm not convinced. I found door hinge pins on Dearbornclassics but want to charge me 46$ for shipping 12$ worth of parts.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 29-January-2015 at 12:11PM
the hinge pins from dearborn/macs are great but the hinge bushings are wrong, i
'll check and find the right part # for the bushings
i ended up using these dorman / help #38374 (2 sets) they come as an assortment.  but here are some one ebay that are just the size needed and enough to do both doors and shipping out side the u.s. :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271758500254?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271758500254?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 30-January-2015 at 8:25AM
Originally posted by Paul100ca Paul100ca wrote:

Sadly nosparts doesn't have the rockers. I found stainless steel ones on ebay but I'm not convinced. I found door hinge pins on Dearbornclassics but want to charge me 46$ for shipping 12$ worth of parts.
 
Macs carries the same stuff as Dearborn, and their shipping is reasonable since they are just near Buffalo.  I ordered my armrests from them, and they were okay to ship.  


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Paul100ca
Date Posted: 30-January-2015 at 9:14AM
Just checked Mac's....exact same shipping cost. Ouch



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