1973 Ranchero toploader in a 70 Torino?
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Topic: 1973 Ranchero toploader in a 70 Torino?
Posted By: threedwizard
Subject: 1973 Ranchero toploader in a 70 Torino?
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:06AM
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I'm trying to return a 1970 M code Torino GT back to the factory 4 speed, it has been changed to an automatic. I've located an entire 1973 351C\toploader Ranchero car with all the parts and z bar setup I could purchase. Will this work? I think I will need to change the driveline yoke to 31 spline and get a Torino crossmember, steering column, and pedal set. I don't know much about the 72-76 era, but would think the z bar setup should be the same. Thanks for any input on this before I commit to buying the donor car.  ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |
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Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:14AM
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Yes. Ranchero of this era is based on Torino. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:27AM
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72 up Z-bar I don't think will work in a 70 ------------- Tom 1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver |
Posted By: torinojon
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:43AM
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the parts brake down is 1970 & 1971 only.the pedals and z bar.for 1972 and up is the same way.the pedals and z bar only 1972 and up. the trans should work the correct shifter to the year of car.the 1970 crossmember is the same for auto/stck/351 and 429.... ------------- http://forum.grantorinosport.org/uploads/3190/marti5.jpg |
Posted By: threedwizard
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:49AM
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I was afraid the z-bar setup would be different. I knew about the pedal set. I could still use the bellhousing back maybe? I would think the clutch fork& shifter could work too. ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |
Posted By: torinojon
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 6:52AM
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the clutch fork is the same way 1970 & 1971 only and the 1972 and up only.bell housing and fly wheel will work in any year.... ------------- http://forum.grantorinosport.org/uploads/3190/marti5.jpg |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 7:04AM
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Yes 1970 was unibody / 72 + went to a frame some parts may be different unless originality is important maybe consider an internal rail trans & hydraulic bearing ? the RUG trans tail housing & shifter mount are likely different also as the 72-73 is a unique oddball don't forget the extra long speedo cable ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: torinojon
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 2:05PM
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its easy to do the factory set up.i made my upper rod and lower rod.thay want to much for factory replacement rods.that will wear out if every thing is not straight.the 1970 set up uses all small block parts for the z bar.the felt and the pivot ball on both side of the z bar are from a 302/small block.every place has it ------------- http://forum.grantorinosport.org/uploads/3190/marti5.jpg |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 21-October-2017 at 3:06PM
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here's a clutch pedal https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1971-Ford-Torino-Manual-Transmission-Clutch-Pedal-4-Speed-OEM-/222654692361?hash=item33d740fc09:g:LFkAAOSwUaNZxrdY&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1971-Ford-Torino-Manual-Transmission-Clutch-Pedal-4-Speed-OEM-/222654692361?hash=item33d740fc09:g:LFkAAOSwUaNZxrdY&vxp=mtr ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: GTW
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 6:04AM
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Gutting an original 1973 Ranchero 351CJ/4 speed car would be an absolute shame. Less than 1000 made. I'd buy a separate transmission and separate hardware if possible. ------------- Griffin 1973 Gran Torino station wagon 1972 Gran Torino 4 Door 1971 Maverick 2 Door |
Posted By: threedwizard
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 8:08AM
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If someone has a reasonable priced RUG Toploader, bellhousing, flywheel, shifter, and clutch fork for a 70/71 I'm game. ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 9:13AM
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Yeah, I missed the year on the Torino... ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 9:56AM
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Better off retrofitting a hydraulic setup for the clutch anyway.......unless you must have originality for concourse reasons ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 10:01AM
My son and I are looking for a project. We wanted a 72 Torino/ Montego GT, but we'd be hard pressed to pass up a 4 speed car if it was complete. I have the Top loader(RUG -BG1) from a 72 Torino complete with bell, fork,resurfaced flywheel, and 72 Torino shifter( I'm not sure if that will fit 70-71) ------------- Tom 1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver |
threedwizard wrote:Posted By: threedwizard
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 5:02PM
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Where are you located? ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |
Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 23-October-2017 at 9:57PM
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Poynette. It is about 30 north of Madison WI ------------- Tom 1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver |
Posted By: threedwizard
Date Posted: 24-October-2017 at 3:00AM
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PM me your contact info please ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 24-October-2017 at 12:30PM
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http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/ ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: threedwizard
Date Posted: 25-October-2017 at 1:37AM
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Thanks, I've had David do work for me in the past. Not ready to spend $2K on a transmission for this project. Thanks for all the input on this too! ------------- 1971 Torino GT Convertible |