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Help - Ford 400 headers for a 73 Gran Torino?

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Topic: Help - Ford 400 headers for a 73 Gran Torino?
Posted By: The Generator
Subject: Help - Ford 400 headers for a 73 Gran Torino?
Date Posted: 30-January-2018 at 5:58PM
Hi guys, 
before posting this, I have read many many threads about Ford 400 headers for 72 and 73 Torinos.
Some people say mustang headers, or different shorty headers for 351c etc.
Unfortunately the more I read the less convinced I am that I know what will fit.

So the last couple weeks I contacted several custom exhaust shops, mechanics and a speed shop in my area. No one will really help me - they say they don't know what will fit and did not seem eager to help me. They just say, put a 460 in etc. So I'm hoping one of you has successfully put headers of some kind on your ford 400 72 or 73 Torino, they are still obtainable, and that we can learn from you.

Anyone know what to buy? Do most people just give up and use manifolds?
Thanks in advance for any advice :)


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56' Ford Pickup
73 Gran Torino Sport
1 Amazing Wife
3 Crazy Kids :)



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Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 31-January-2018 at 12:45AM
Have You seen these?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/12118/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710873284&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=aud-194567928791:pla-210346429991&CATARGETID=230006180039216958&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPWjmp2C2QIVSrjACh3ZRwrtEAQYASABEgKn3vD_BwE" rel="nofollow - http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/12118/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710873284&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=aud-194567928791:pla-210346429991&CATARGETID=230006180039216958&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPWjmp2C2QIVSrjACh3ZRwrtEAQYASABEgKn3vD_BwE




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John
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 31-January-2018 at 12:52AM
Also found this, here;

http://forum.grantorinosport.org/1973-gran-torino-400-headers_topic8056.html

Hope this helps!Thumbs Up


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John
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 31-January-2018 at 1:55AM
I am going to be buying headers for my 400 soon.  The only one I know that will fit for sure are these Hooker Super Comps:
 
https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6125hkr/applications/" rel="nofollow - https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6125hkr/applications/
 
They are pricey though, but there have been a couple people here that have installed them successfully.
 
There are also the Sanderson FC4 shorty headers, that I "think" will fit.  I have in the past contacted a fellow who installed them on a 351M (same externally as a 400) in a fullsize Ford.  He said there was lots of room with them and the Torinos are similar to these cars.  As far as I know any headers listed pre 1972 for Torinos or Mustangs probably won't fit.
 
I have taken some measurements of my stock manifolds and compared them to the FC4 measurements and I am pretty sure they would work.   Sanderson says they will take them back if they don't fit.  My issue is I live North of the border, so returns are cheap.  If I could get these from my local speed shop, I'd try them for sure (since returns are no problem). 
 
https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/snh-fc4-p" rel="nofollow - https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/snh-fc4-p
 
Keep in mind that you'd also need the 4V to 2V adaptors for these to work on a 400 (they are about $50 extra). I like the quality of the Sanderson, they seem to be better made than the Hookers.  Plus they are cheaper and you don't run into the tight fit of long tubes.
 
I still haven't decided what I am going to run, but I will be buying a set sometime between now and spring when I get my 400 back from TMI.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 22-March-2018 at 5:32AM
The GTS I purchased about a few years ago had the original engine changed to a 351M with hooker hedders,they fit pretty well.



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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 23-March-2018 at 6:50AM
Were they Hooker 6125 Super Comps? This is probably what I am going to order soon for my car. I hope they fit well for the price.

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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 05-April-2018 at 1:34PM
ill look and see if there is a part number...


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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Generator
Date Posted: 13-May-2018 at 5:06PM
Any word on a part number? I’m back to working on my car again and really want to put headers on ;)

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56' Ford Pickup
73 Gran Torino Sport
1 Amazing Wife
3 Crazy Kids :)


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 14-May-2018 at 2:31AM
Other than finding a vintage set of headers, I think you are limited to what I posted above.  Now that I have the front clip off my car, I 99% sure am going with the Super Comps for my 400.  I am probably going to break the bank and get the ceramic coated headers too, since I want them to last.
 
Here is a member who installed them on a Ford 400 and he claims they fit okay.  Some other searches show that they are tight fit but work okay too.
 
 
 
Here is the original thread (you need the photo bucket fix to see the pics):
 
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/ghost-qship_topic15914_page2.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/ghost-qship_topic15914_page2.html
 
 
Here's another thread talking about them:
 
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/351m-400-header-problem_topic14316_post152434.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/351m-400-header-problem_topic14316_post152434.html


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 4:57PM
Sorry about the delay....tbh I completely forgot. Embarrassed

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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 4:58PM
its a snug fit on the drivers side.

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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 4:59PM
Super Comps that came with the GTS.

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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 5:01PM
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Here's where it gets tight, the last cylinder primary is on the corner of the steering box. Im sure it can be trimmed and the tuber "massaged" slightly.


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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 5:01PM
A top view.

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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 5:06PM
passenger side fits really well!

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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 07-July-2018 at 5:16PM
i didnt find a part number but they fit well.


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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 08-July-2018 at 11:46AM
Originally posted by The Torino Kid The Torino Kid wrote:

i didnt find a part number but they fit well.
 
Thank you for posting this info!  These look like Hooker Super Comp 6126 Headers, which are the ones I ordered for my car, so I appreciate the feedback.  I will copy you posts info into the header info thread.
 
Thanks again.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car


Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 08-July-2018 at 2:42PM
Originally posted by 7T9_Tbird 7T9_Tbird wrote:

Have You seen these?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/12118/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710873284&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=aud-194567928791:pla-210346429991&CATARGETID=230006180039216958&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPWjmp2C2QIVSrjACh3ZRwrtEAQYASABEgKn3vD_BwE" rel="nofollow - http://www.jegs.com/i/Flowtech/387/12118/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710873284&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=aud-194567928791:pla-210346429991&CATARGETID=230006180039216958&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPWjmp2C2QIVSrjACh3ZRwrtEAQYASABEgKn3vD_BwE




problems with this ad, first they say fits 351C 4V then lower they say 351M / 400 which never came as 4V

and 1974 Mustang was a Pinto so forget that too, all i believe is Painted Black


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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: The Torino Kid
Date Posted: 08-July-2018 at 8:28PM
you're welcome, glad I could help. Cool


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1973 Gran Torino Sport CJ 351

'Q' code 63R body



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