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Topic: Clamping designations
Posted By: Green Hornet
Subject: Clamping designations
Date Posted: 04-June-2019 at 12:16PM
Hallo.  
I've an 73 Ford Gran Torino. I come from Germany. Our DIN Standard is a different from the ISO Standard. My problem is reading the american electrical clamping designations! I know only the German electrical clamping designations. Can someone send me a list of the individuell terminal designations  ?
Thanks



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Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 04-June-2019 at 11:55PM
Can you get more specific on what you are looking for?  What wiring are you trying to repair?

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1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

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Posted By: Green Hornet
Date Posted: 05-June-2019 at 6:45AM
I want to install the complete electrical Wire. So I need the Importent clamping designations! For example Ignition, ground, the lights .. 


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 05-June-2019 at 2:44PM

I don't really know anything about clamping designations and don't think you really need them to fix or re-wire a Torino.   Are you redoing all of the wiring in your car?

We do have a wiring diagram here on the website that might be helpful for you:

http://grantorinosport.org/librarymaintenance.htm" rel="nofollow - http://grantorinosport.org/librarymaintenance.htm
 
If you ask specific questions and post some pictures of the wiring you are working on, I am sure some of us can help you through you project.  


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 05-June-2019 at 5:29PM
yeah vince i think he's asking about a schematic... not sure about DIN and ISO????


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Posted By: Green Hornet
Date Posted: 06-June-2019 at 7:25AM
For example. The clamping designation for the Ignition is 15 in Germany and 16 in the USA . So I need the other complete clamping designations. For the Front an Back Lights, for the alternator, for the battery . . .


Posted By: T-Bird_79
Date Posted: 06-June-2019 at 9:03AM
Originally posted by Green Hornet Green Hornet wrote:

For example. The clamping designation for the Ignition is 15 in Germany and 16 in the USA . So I need the other complete clamping designations. For the Front an Back Lights, for the alternator, for the battery . . .
Get factory wiring diagrams (here or on Ebay) they will give You all the information You'll need-locations of connectors, wire colors, wire locations in connectors etc.


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Andris
1979 Ford Thunderbird
1977 Opel Commodore Coupe Euro personal luxury car
1969 Vauxhall Viva small American
1989 Opel Kadett GSi 16V known as Pontiac LeMans
1978 Moskvitch 412 Soviet rally


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 06-June-2019 at 1:30PM
Originally posted by Green Hornet Green Hornet wrote:

For example. The clamping designation for the Ignition is 15 in Germany and 16 in the USA . So I need the other complete clamping designations. For the Front an Back Lights, for the alternator, for the battery . . .
Do you meant the wire gauge?  Like the ignition wire is 16 gauge?  If so, this site will convert AWG to metric:
https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/awg-to-mm.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/awg-to-mm.html
 
Otherwise, you just need a wiring diagram.  The link I posted above is the 1973 Torino wiring diagram.  It's not the factory one, but it's still very good.  You can buy a factory one off eBay:
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-MERCURY-COUGAR-XR-7-73-FORD-MOTOR-COMPANY-WIRING-GUIDE-DIAGRAM-CHART/283448823785?hash=item41feddcfe9:g:DEcAAOxyjK1RC2kv" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-MERCURY-COUGAR-XR-7-73-FORD-MOTOR-COMPANY-WIRING-GUIDE-DIAGRAM-CHART/283448823785?hash=item41feddcfe9:g:DEcAAOxyjK1RC2kv
 
You can also get a universal wiring harness if you are rewiring the entire car:
 
https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/prf-10123/overview/year/1972/make/ford/model/gran-torino" rel="nofollow - https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/prf-10123/overview/year/1972/make/ford/model/gran-torino
 
Or you could try to find good used wiring harness from North America and have them shipped to you in Germany.
 
Hopefully this helps.
 


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Green Hornet
Date Posted: 07-June-2019 at 12:21PM


Posted By: Green Hornet
Date Posted: 07-June-2019 at 12:28PM
This is Our DIN Norm for some clamping designations..
I have all original circuit diagrams. My problem lies in being able to read the individuell terminal designations . 


Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 08-June-2019 at 1:12AM
Originally posted by Green Hornet Green Hornet wrote:

My problem lies in being able to read the individuell terminal designations . 
Your problem lies in that being a load of Bibble-Babble.
 
It appears to be a system of designating circuits on a wiring diagram, and appears useful, until they declare that the designations need not be marked on the actual wires.
Makes for wonderful process diagrams that are next to useless.


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Posted By: NeillNZ
Date Posted: 10-June-2019 at 11:40PM
Could this be what you need? This is from 1972.







Posted By: doc76251
Date Posted: 10-June-2019 at 11:53PM
I think we are getting lost in translation.  Clamping designations may mean Terminal designations on the gauge cluster plug.  Add into the mix that there are a couple different cluster plugs in that era 14pin, 15 pin and 18pin (IIRC and I'm probably wrong).  My 77 Chero has a 14 pin connector block to hook up the instrument cluster.

Cheers,

Doc


Posted By: Green Hornet
Date Posted: 12-June-2019 at 8:56AM
Thanks. This is exactly this what I need. 



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