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1972 1978 frame.?

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Topic: 1972 1978 frame.?
Posted By: Anderslober
Subject: 1972 1978 frame.?
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 2:53AM
Hi Forum..qq...are the Torino frames from 1972 and 1978 the same?
As you may all know, I need a frame piece for my 1972 GTS..just where the rear lower control arm is......are these frames the same?

Thanks...
(Johnny......any cutting this weekend?..I am desperate for news..)



Replies:
Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 5:25AM
i had too many errands to do yesterday Confused but if the weather is good today i may attempt it? if it wasn't still a whole car it would be easy...


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 6:00AM
ok Johnny...lemme know...Brake out the plasma cutter!Tongue

Are the 72 and 78 frames the same? I saw a 78 frame and it did not look quite like mine in the problem area around where the rear lower control arm mounts......


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 8:17AM
not completely sure on the 77-79's??


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 8:45AM
i'm gonna work on getting that piece out...


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 11:30AM
got it out!!! what a painConfused  i'll email you a pic soon....


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 3:38PM
Johnny...friggin AMAZING help! Thanks.


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 24-November-2019 at 5:59PM
WinkThumbs Up

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 26-November-2019 at 1:19PM
Originally posted by Anderslober Anderslober wrote:

ok Johnny...lemme know...Brake out the plasma cutter!Tongue

Are the 72 and 78 frames the same? I saw a 78 frame and it did not look quite like mine in the problem area around where the rear lower control arm mounts......

Yes, the '72 and '78 frames are the same in the area your are rusted.  The frame basically was the same from '72 to '79.  However, in front of the front axle and behind the rear axle was altered depending on the year.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 26-November-2019 at 2:10PM
so you could swap the front & rear bumper mount extensions (frame horns) from the 72 frame to any other same wheelbase frame and it will work. wheelbase can be adjusted by sectioning the middle, paying attention to body mount locations. do you have a line on a donor frame local?



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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-November-2019 at 2:21PM
 Wink already on it, cut ready to send...Big smile

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-December-2019 at 9:03AM
Certain sections are the same.
I have sectioned out the lower rear control arm pockets in the past, and I've found it is best to cut the entire frame section ahead of the splice joint of the rear frame to side frame section.
cut the rear frame rail above the lower control arm pocket and send the entire donor section, to allow the person repairing the frame plenty of metal.

when welding in, care must be taken to do 45 degree bevel grinds to allow for additional weld penetration and confirm the welds are good and not full of impurities. because this is an area that is critical to the operation of the car, if you are not confident in your welding skills, seek out a certified welder with proper equipment to repair.

after repairs, take care to use an encapsulator product inside the repaired frame rail sections to reduce potential rust issues.

Also, this goes without saying, but remove your fuel tank while grinding and welding on that area of the vehicle.
all it takes is a nearly empty fuel tank, and fumes and some sparks to create a very bad scenario.


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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
Pondering: #99Problems


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 08-December-2019 at 11:07AM
Thanks..great info. A pro-welder will be doing the job.

Here is a picture of the part going in. Thanks to CaJohnny!



Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 08-December-2019 at 3:24PM
i cut that out with the fuel line intact... just pulled it out of the way, but i don't recommend it!! that's only for skilled individuals like myself LOL


 note the smaller frame section in the front... i'd grind the welds to remove the inner piece, grind yours off saving the smaller side section of yours intact so this can be slid into place then rewelded as the factory didWink but andy is correct about "V" ing the butt joints for the upper graft Wink


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION



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