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Carb spacer 4300D.

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Topic: Carb spacer 4300D.
Posted By: Anderslober
Subject: Carb spacer 4300D.
Date Posted: 01-December-2019 at 4:55PM
Hi forum...now that I have a nice original 4300D going into my 72 GTS 351CJ, will I need a spacer?

Was there a spacer in the original setup?
Thanks...



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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 12:03PM
the EGR plate, and mind the worm channel beside the carb pad because there are different ones






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Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:07PM
Based on the length if the studs I am going to go with yes. My first car in 1980 had one that may have been bakelite or a similar material. You will get the correct answer in a few minutes.


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:09PM
My car has no worm channel. See picture. Will I still need the spacer?
Thanks.



Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:10PM
Aluminum would be a good spacer as it would help keep the carb cooler which is never a bad thing.


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:11PM
Another picture. Need spacer still? Thanks.



Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:18PM
I have the aluminum spacers under my carb. Three of them. Had a detonation issue and now I don't.  Might have been the jet change that fixed it along with timing. If everything lines up without the spacer I would be surprised. The kickdown rod will tell you one way or the other. If it fits correctly without a spacer I would be surprised. We had to bend mine a bit to make it a little longer so it worked as designed.


Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:20PM
Is your car a 4 speed?


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:23PM
My car is a 4speed/351CJ.....


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 2:53PM
I have googled many pictures of Torino/Mustang 4300D setups. Some have spacers...some dont.....what was factory?
I bought a Motorcraft 4300D spacer on the ‘Bay. It is about 5mm thick. 
All ideas welcome.
Here is a picture of the spacer.




Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 3:41PM
thats the thick base gasket. your studs look short so that should be fine Wink

idk if you can find the correct plastic 1/2" thick solid plastic phenolic spacer with correct longer studs would be good if you have hot "boiling over" issues later Wink


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 3:45PM
the aluminum spacer was normally for the EGR valve which you not have(worm hole trench) that's a good thing!Big smile


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 3:52PM
VERy hard to find the correct phenolic spacer....

Is old stock the only way,or does someone sell ‘em?


Posted By: dave302
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 5:28PM
I have never heard of anyone reproducing the '72 spacers. There is a seller that is advertising that he has spacer for sale, but it is a '73 spacer. It has the egr port on it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-FORD-MUSTANG-AND-MACH-1-351C-4BBL-351CJ-ENGINE-EGR-CARB-SPACER-D3ZE/392516124780?hash=item5b63c8c06c:g:nQQAAOSwA3ddvv-M" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-FORD-MUSTANG-AND-MACH-1-351C-4BBL-351CJ-ENGINE-EGR-CARB-SPACER-D3ZE/392516124780?hash=item5b63c8c06c:g:nQQAAOSwA3ddvv-M


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 6:19PM
get the carb all rebuilt and put it on with the thick gasket you got and try it... should be fine without any spacer...

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: dave302
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 6:25PM
There is another '73 spacer for sale.
https://www.ecklers.com/ford-mustang-carburetor-spacer-plate-machined-billet-aluminum-for-cars-with-egr-351c-v-8-with-4-bbl-carburetor-44-46179-1.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.ecklers.com/ford-mustang-carburetor-spacer-plate-machined-billet-aluminum-for-cars-with-egr-351c-v-8-with-4-bbl-carburetor-44-46179-1.html


Posted By: dave302
Date Posted: 02-December-2019 at 7:31PM
There is another '73 spacer for sale.
https://www.rearcounter.com/D3ZZ-9A589-A-parts439021.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.rearcounter.com/D3ZZ-9A589-A-parts439021.html


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 03-December-2019 at 1:58AM
I will use the thick gasket. Should be good.....

I do not think Ford used those other fancy type spacers......Confused

Awesome!


Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 03-December-2019 at 2:28AM
Originally posted by Anderslober Anderslober wrote:

Another picture. Need spacer still? Thanks.

Looking your intake manifold's carburetor mounting stud length, I don't believe their long enough to enable a spacer to be used other than the thick carb gasket you pictured above.

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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 03-December-2019 at 8:00AM
1972 had a Ram-Air option so Ford may've ditched the EGR & any spacers for hood clearance?

Anderslober, are the large secondary throttle bores perfectly round or are they an odd egg shape?






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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 03-December-2019 at 10:03AM
wow...never seen that before! Didnt even check that....will check! It is even difficult to see on my pictures.
IF they are egg shaped......then what?



Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 03-December-2019 at 10:06AM
that's what DeTomaso did to the stock intake to allow the use of a square flange Holley carb

i just wondered if somebody did the same to yours, hard to see from the pic

all's well carry on!



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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 09-December-2019 at 5:15AM
If you are wanting/needing a non-EGR 4300/4350 carburetor spacer, I found this gem in my stash, it came off of a '76 460 out of an E-350 van. Just reply or PM me. It is all aluminum and about 3/4" thick. 
 

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www.supermotors.net/22468
Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires.

No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t.

Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone.



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