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Forum Name: 1977-1979 Ford and Mercury
Forum Description: Technical discussion for 1977-1979 Ford and Mercury
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Topic: Fender insulation
Posted By: ssregal39
Subject: Fender insulation
Date Posted: 24-October-2020 at 8:03AM
Anyone have a source/solution for the pieces of insulation that go in the rear of the fenders?



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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 25-October-2020 at 2:15PM
not quite sure what you're referring to? i don't recall any fenders having insulation...


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 25-October-2020 at 2:29PM
I'm not familiar with what the 70's cars had, but I thought he meant the insulation material that is common in 90's Fords.

I reconstructed a 93 Explorer and had a wind noise from the LF door hinge area. I discovered that looking into the fender from the hinge area, there is a part that is shaped like that space which is barely attached in the fender. It's about an inch thick and I think they were stuck on the fenders when new with the same body seam sealer type product. I dug that part out and back to fit the opening, RTV'd it in place, and the wind noise was greatly reduced. I then found a noise from the mirror, a different used one that didn't fit the door as well. Some RTV along that gap, and it made the truck much quieter.

So it's probably a good thing to have that in all front fenders.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: ssregal39
Date Posted: 26-October-2020 at 12:52AM
there's insulation sheets at the rear of the fenders near the door jam. Roughly 24" high and 8" wide. Probably for road noise? Mine are disintegrated.


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 26-October-2020 at 12:57AM
Bingo, they did have those. Are either of your old ones shaped properly? Ideally you have an old one to use as a pattern at least.

I'd find a later model car and see what the material looks like. I doubt a newer car will have a perfect fit part, but making one may not be that hard to do.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-October-2020 at 5:30PM
oh ok. 73-76 torinos had a plastic baffle in there i think that's what you're referring to? i have some but i'm thinking the 77-79 fenders are a different shape so probably fit different...




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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: ssregal39
Date Posted: 26-October-2020 at 11:17PM
yep thats it. I wonder what material would be suitable to cut my own.


Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 27-October-2020 at 4:19AM
not so much insulation but a block-off / filler piece, they're molded plastic


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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 27-October-2020 at 8:11AM
Those will help a lot with wind noise, but put some insulation onto them too.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 27-October-2020 at 3:36PM
those are thin pieces of polyethylene plastic


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 28-October-2020 at 11:19AM
My Thunderbirds both had a plastic shield with a wad of fiberglass behind it (between it and the "Bigfoot" part. Cougar fenders i pulled out of a Junkyard also had them.


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"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD
How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds?


Posted By: hogfiddles
Date Posted: 28-October-2020 at 12:23PM
do you need for a ‘73?  Which side?  I’ll see what I have.... I’m turning my ‘73 into a ‘72

Dave Fox


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1973 Gran Torino Sport - Q code “Q-Clone” project-on-hold
1972 Gran Torino Sport - Q code new project
1972 Gran Torino - parts
1969 Torino GT - M code
95+/- mid-80's Yamaha XJ-Series (10 trophies)


Posted By: ssregal39
Date Posted: 30-October-2020 at 4:02AM
So this is insulation I'm talkng about. Purely cloth of some type.
I have light blue car and swapped on some cream fenders and hood. All that is coming off this winter to rust bust and paint everything fresh so wanted to replace these guys.


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 30-October-2020 at 5:19AM
Very good, that will make a great template to replicate them.

I'd like to see the results if you get time to post any pictures. If you make a paper board template of that, I'd like to have one also. My 73 I don't recall installing that kind of filler piece into the 72 front end when I swapped it in 1989. I'd want to add that to any car that is missing them.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: hogfiddles
Date Posted: 30-October-2020 at 5:30AM
Originally posted by 72 RS 351 72 RS 351 wrote:

Very good, that will make a great template to replicate them.

I'd like to see the results if you get time to post any pictures. If you make a paper board template of that, I'd like to have one also. My 73 I don't recall installing that kind of filler piece into the 72 front end when I swapped it in 1989. I'd want to add that to any car that is missing them.
That’s because, as I understand it,the ‘72 fenders have a different contour to the inside.  I guess I probably should actually try putting my ‘73 shields  into my ‘72 fenders to see first-Hand if there really is a difference.

Dfox


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1973 Gran Torino Sport - Q code “Q-Clone” project-on-hold
1972 Gran Torino Sport - Q code new project
1972 Gran Torino - parts
1969 Torino GT - M code
95+/- mid-80's Yamaha XJ-Series (10 trophies)


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 30-October-2020 at 5:40AM
They should be really close, they are the same at the back except for the mounting changes made for 1973. That insulation or cover part should swap with minimal alterations.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: Lizer
Date Posted: 30-October-2020 at 5:09PM
There's a guy on the LTDII facebook group who makes fiberglass and carbon fiber pieces, he could certainly recreate that part if he had a good template from which to make a mold.

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78 LTD II sports touring package (blue), father original owner
67 Mustang (5.0)
69 Mach 1 428 SCJ Drag Pack


Posted By: rancheromac
Date Posted: 18-January-2021 at 7:21AM
me to! it fits to back of fender to sound deaden and make sure water and debris dont hit the front of inner door



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