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Topic: The Official TIRE SIZE THREAD
Posted By: Psquare75
Subject: The Official TIRE SIZE THREAD
Date Posted: 21-April-2009 at 12:22PM
Please list the following for your car..

Year Make Model

Tire size
Wheel width and offset
Lowering amount, if any
Rubbing issues experienced, if any
Any other pertinent info you think might be of use to us (ex- I have air shocks in the back so nothing rubs, you get the idea)


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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500



Replies:
Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 21-April-2009 at 12:23PM
1978 Mercury Cougar
255 50 17 in front, 275 50 17 in rear
17 x 8 3.5" back spacing in front, 17 x 9 4.5" back spacing in rear
No lowering
So tight I cannot run a mud flap on the passenger fender. Rear fits with room to spare.



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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 21-April-2009 at 2:49PM
245/60-15 with 15x7 Magnums 4.25 back space on the front 295/50-15's on the rear w/15x8 magnums 4.5 backspace. thinking about swapping to 15x10 's for the rear same size tire . 1.5 " lowered in front with 2001 Crown Vic interceptor springs Ford #D9AZ-5310-W  . Rides & handles great!

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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,97 Mustang GT Vert

"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: 1975MontegoMX
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 2:34AM
1975 Mercury Montego MX

15/60/245
15x7 (Don't Know Backspace)
Stock Height
No Rubbing
Im running Monroe-Matic Gas Shocks all around


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1975 Mercury Montego MX /351 M/
1986 Ford Crown Victoria /302/"5.0"


Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 3:16AM
couple different cars.
72 sport - ran 275/60r15 on a 15x8 magnum 500 rear and 215/70r15 on a 15x7 magnum 500 front.  dont know the backspace.
 
72 Ranchero - 255/60r15 rear and 245/60r15 front on factory ford 15x7 magnum 500's.
 
72 gran torino 4dr - 235/70r15 rear on 15x8 street star and 215/65r15 front on 15x7 street star wheels.


Posted By: JimW
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 3:58PM
1976 Gran Torino, stock 351M non A/C springs, stock replacement shocks, AL headed big block/C6/battery in trunk, no front bumper support
265/50/15 on 15x8 TT2 in front (3.5" backspace I think) one front fender real tight in the back.
275/60/15 on 15x8 TT2 in the rear (same backspace) tight to rear fender lips, needed some clearancing with the BFG DR's but the MT DR's clear fine.
 
Jim


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1976 S&H Gran Torino

460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6

545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8

More to come!!!!

463rwhp/495rwtq

two tons of fun

see it and hear it at:

www.torinocobra.com

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Posted By: GranTorinoMan
Date Posted: 23-April-2009 at 4:01AM
72 Ford Gran Torino Sport
 
Front Tire - P225/70R15
Rear Tire - P275/60R15
Rear Drag Tire - 28x14.5-15LT (Drag tire rubs, air shocks pumped up to clear)   
 
Front Rims -  15x8 - (3.75" Backspacing)
Rear Rims - 15x10 - (4" Backspacing)
Drag Rear Rims - 15x10 - (4" Backspacing)
 
Stock Springs
Rear axle housing slightly narrowed 1" each end.  


Posted By: MarkGubinski
Date Posted: 26-April-2009 at 5:13AM
Chris, 14.5 on a 10 wheel? And doesn't it also rub on the front part of the frame rail near where the lower arm mounts?
 
Drag Only 1972 GTSs
26x4.5 front
29x11 on 15x10 back on my car (514 cu.in.)
28x10 on 15x10 on my son's car (472 cu.in.)


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72 Gran Torino Sport 514
10.33 @134 @3600lbs.
2 Time Milan Dragway Track Champion.
2012 IHRA Div. 5 No-Box Champion.
88 career wins.







Posted By: picon3
Date Posted: 28-April-2009 at 2:50AM
I went with Vintique's Magnum 500 15 x 8 wheel:
 
72 Ford Gran Torino Sport
 
Front Tire -P255/60/R15
Rear Tire - P275/60/R15
 
Front Rim -15x8 - (4.50" Backspacing)
Rear Rim - 15x8 - (4.50" Backspacing)-fills the rear wheel nicely.  No rubbing.
 
Center Bore Diameter 2.125 inch with press on caps.
 
 


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1972 GTS 351CJ-4V black/black


Posted By: rtgreen
Date Posted: 05-May-2009 at 4:19AM
This vendor is running a sale on Magnum 500's from 18x10 to 20x10 in Deep Dish styles. The 1994-2004 Mustang fitment will work on our cars. Enjoy!
 
http://cruizinconceptswholesale.com/products.asp?cat=257 - http://cruizinconceptswholesale.com/products.asp?cat=257
 


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72 Gran Torino Sport Q 4spd

1996 GT- H/C/I swap, SCT

1995 Bronco - 5.0 5spd.



Posted By: 1973 429 torino
Date Posted: 05-May-2009 at 12:48PM
1973 Gran Torino Sport
Front 15x7 Wheel Vintique Magnum 500 235/60r15
Rear 15x10 Wheel Vintique Magnum 500 295/50 r15
No rubbing, nice fit


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 12-May-2009 at 6:45AM
1972 Gran Torino Sport
16 x 7 Ford Crown Vic police steel rim {same thing as what rangers, explorers use 1998-2002}
Kumho 245/50/16 sport radial*
 
1973 Gran Torino Sport
16 x 7 Ford Crown Vic police steel rim
Goodyear Eagle 225/60/16 radial*
 
*Note- these tires are both too short of a side wall for my liking.


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Andrew


Posted By: Ranchero72
Date Posted: 08-June-2009 at 3:55PM
1972 Ford Ranchero 500
14x7 OEM Magnum 500 wheels
Road Runner G 78-14 tires


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'72 Ford Ranchero 500
-351C C4


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 15-June-2009 at 6:10AM
OK, question time:
What are the largest tires that will fit our cars out back, when plus-sizing?
I am looking for a 17" tire, but I want something in the range of a 275 series, around a 30" tall. I want to say there is a 275/60r17 on General's site in the grabber UHP series.
I also saw a 255 tire...but at 27" tall, too short for my taste for back tires.
 
I looked at the typical Mustang type 275/40r17, and forget it, I don't want a donut 25" tall tire. I need some sidewall!
 
 


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Andrew


Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 19-June-2009 at 3:24AM
Andy, this is a 275 50 17 on a 17x9 rim.





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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 19-June-2009 at 2:12PM
What's the overall hight on that tire? My concern with the 50 series, it may be too wide for the 8" rim width.



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Andrew


Posted By: gpd294
Date Posted: 21-June-2009 at 6:00AM

I am looking for original size white wall tires for my wagon. I have a 1975 Gran Torino Wagon. What would yall recommend?

P205 75 14's, P215 75 14's, or something else?
 
I'm not looking for a bigger wheel combo as I am wanting to keep my original Torino hub caps.
 
Thanks, Carlos


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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station

Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 22-June-2009 at 6:37AM
On a wagon, I would of thought by 1975 they would have been a 15" rim.
On that car, i would think the tire size should be around a 225/75 or a 235/75 series size tire.
205 and 215 seem entirely too small for the weight of a Wagon, let alone a 4 door or coupe.
You can still run a bit of a tire on a 14" rim, but the sizes are getting increasingly a pain to find.
I forget, but I would image a 225/60 will fit a 7" wide rim?
Or, at the wheels you have a 14x6?
 


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Andrew


Posted By: gpd294
Date Posted: 22-June-2009 at 6:57AM
According to Coker Tires website it states the 1975 Wagon had size HR78-14 tires. Isn't this a bias ply tire??? Can someone tell me what this translates to when it comes to radial tires???
 
VEHICLE: 1975  FORD  Torino

Standard
http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=HR78-14 - HR78-14     http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=JR78-14 - JR78-14    
Wagon
http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=HR78-14 - HR78-14     http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=HR78-14 - HR78-14    


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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station

Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 23-June-2009 at 5:49AM
This was something I found poking around the net with Google...I think this would apply well with our Heavy Torinos.
From what I gather, you should stick at least a 225/75/R14 tire on your car.
If I was you, I would upgrade to Ford 15"x7" steel wheels, and go to a 235/75/r15 for a larger stock Torino sized tire that a lot of cars had. Every Elite I have owned were factory 15" wheel cars.
The Gran Torino Sports I have owned have all had 14x8 wheels, I have some 14x8 factory steel rims That I have held onto a few as spares with original bias Goodyear or Firestone tires because I like the look of the old tires.
 
Remember, you have a wagon. That car has some serious heft to it.
If you want to stick a whitewall on there, stick with a good brand...you are going to spend twice for white walls versus a blackwall or raised white letter, judging by the Coker Classic line of wide white walls, but BFG would be another good choice.
I figure you will have $900 for 4 tires, $1,125 for 4 plus the spare, and that's not including the shipping.
I would tell you to check out a local you-pull it for a 80's crown vic, those wheels should still accept the Torino center cap if the rim's center has the bumps for retaining the cap.
 
If you wanted to get fancy, I have a set of the Elite specific slotted stainless steel hubcaps, but you would need a 15" rim.
  
 
This bit came off here:
http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Wheels/size.htm - http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Wheels/size.htm  
 

The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example above, the width is 185mm or 7.28".

The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height (also referred to as "section height" in the diagram) to width. In the example above, the tire is 7.28" wide, multiply that by the aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case, 185x0.60=111mm or 7.28"x0.60=4.36".

The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches.

To figure the outside diameter of a tire, take the sidewall height and multiply by 2, (remember that the diameter is made up of 2 sidewalls, the one above the wheel, and the one below the wheel) and add the diameter of the wheel to get your answer.

Example...185/60R14 85H or 185/60HR14

185mm x .60=111mm x 2=222mm + 355.6mm(14")= 577.6mm or 22.74"


Tips from Dick on How To Calculate Your Tire Size:

Here is how you figure out the dimensions on a tire and what will work for your car. The first number is the width in Millimeters "255" is 255 mm, or about 10". I don't know what year your car is, but chances are these tires will be at least 1" and maybe almost 2" wider. You'll have to look to see if you have clearance, between the fender skirt and the rear wheel, and between the frame and the inside of the front tire in a sharp turn. Remember when you hit a bump in a turn, the tire will move a little closer to the frame.

The second number is the percentage relation between the height from the rim to the road as compared to the width. "70" means the tire is 70% as high as it is wide, or 7 inches from rim to tread (with no load on the tire). This will be a short, fat looking tire for your car, when the original was a tall thin dude. Some like this new look, some don't. You pick it.


Tips from Chris on Tire Measurement:

The measurement of the sidewall height on tires is always done as a function (or percentage) of the section width, and it's called the "aspect ratio."

In the 1950s and early 1960s, the standard aspect ratio was 82-84%, meaning the distance from the top edge of the rim to the top of the tire tread was that percentage of the width of the tire (which is measured about mid-carcass, not at the tread). Tire sizes were usually given as simply the section width and rim size, like 9.15-15 (9.15 inches wide, 15-inch rim).

Around 1970, bias-ply tires moved to a 78% aspect ratio, this the term "H78-15. H was a load rating, 78 was the aspect ratio, 15 the rim size. All tires using the same load rating (for example, G70-15, G60-15, etc.) were the same diameter. Because the diameter was the same and the aspect ratio was lower, a 60-series tire was wider than a 78-series.

As radials became the norm, these designations stayed in use, but an R (for radial, of course) was added: HR78-15. In the 1970s, US tire manufacturers adopted the European system of metric sizing (though the rim diameter is still in inches). Example: 235/75R15. R still stands for Radial, 235mm is the section width, 75 the aspect ratio, 15 the rim diameter. What's different in this system is that the section width is an absolute number, so a 235/75 is just as wide as a 235/60. The 60-series tire is therefore smaller in diameter.

During this time period, the "standard" aspect ratio dropped to 75% (today, 65%, 60% and even down to 35% on some exotic sports cars, are all common).

So, if you wanted to put a set of radial tires on an old car and approximate the original sidewall height, you'd have to go with an enormously wide tire, which is undesirable for many reasons, including more difficult steering and some odd handling response (for these cars, which were not designed to have such a big contact patch between rubber and road).

As such, we compromise with a balance of width and height that comes closest overall... an old 9.15-15 might become a slightly wider but shorter HR78-15, which then becomes an even shorter 235/75R15.

Finding correct-size 14-inch tires today is harder still, because few tire manufacturers make little 14's strong enough and wide enough to manage the load of a 5,000-lb car. Choose carefully, note the load rating (remember, some 65% of your car's weight is on the front wheels) and the temperature grade (B is OK, A is better, C is not good enough), and maintain proper tire pressure (about 4 lbs below max is what I use). We've all seen what happens when under-inflated tires overheat in a heavy vehicle like, oh, I dunno... a Ford Explorer?

 


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Andrew


Posted By: gpd294
Date Posted: 01-July-2009 at 3:51AM
This may be helpful to anyone who may have the same dilemma.
 
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos - http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos  


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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station

Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 15-November-2009 at 6:50AM
295/50-15  is a good fit and easy to find as well!

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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,97 Mustang GT Vert

"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 15-November-2009 at 8:44AM
28x13.50x15   How's that sound??   Try going to http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial - http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial  that should give you plenty to think about.

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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,97 Mustang GT Vert

"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: crispy23c
Date Posted: 15-November-2009 at 4:04PM
Question:  I have a chance on a good deal for a NICE set of torque thrust wheels.  Dimensions and offsets are:
 
Front:  18x9 wheels  4" offset  245/40/18  9.65" wide x 25.72 high
 
Rear:  18x10 wheels  6" offset  285/35/18 (worn should be replaced)  11.22"w  x  25.85" Tall
 
Question is, it looks like these should fit EXCEPT I am not sure about the 6" offset on the rears with this setup.  I could always go a little skinier on the rear but with the 6" offset I am not sure
 
The fronts sound like they would fit, but tight.  Opinions?  I could probably put the fronts on the rear rims and get skinnier on the fronts, but I want to make sure I am not wasting my money...
Thanks!
Chris


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Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black


"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark


Posted By: crispy23c
Date Posted: 16-November-2009 at 12:28AM
THanks, my concern was especially with the rears and the huge offset.  I was not convinced, but it was a pretty damn good deal. 
I will pass on that deal, thanks for the advice.  Most of my looking has baan in the 15" & 16" range.  Congrats on your wheel deal!


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Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black


"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark


Posted By: crispy23c
Date Posted: 27-November-2009 at 1:23AM
Hey, I may live in NH, but even I don't walk around carrying a shotgun in the front yard! LOL
So, 15x10 with a 4.5" or 5" offset will fit under our wells without modification?  Good to know.
Looks like I will be sticking with 15x9 or 15x10 for the rears when I finally get there.  The car will be dropped a little and I now believe it will fill out the wells nicely when it's complete.


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Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black


"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 28-November-2009 at 1:01PM
Something from a recent email I sent to Crager's tech email:


Both the 17x9 and 17x8 are 0 offset.  The 17x8 is 4.5” and the 17x9 is 5.0”. 

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff Danbom

CRAGAR Industries, Inc.

Tel. 877.8CRAGAR (877.827.2427)

Fax 877.827.2427

mailto:jeffdanbom@cragar.com - jeffdanbom@cragar.com

-----Original Message-----
From:  mailto:Eliteman76@aol.com - Eliteman7 6
Sent
: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:25 PM
To:  mailto:jeffdanbom@cragar.com - jeffdanbom@cragar.com
Subject: Re: Cragar.com Contact Autoresponse

 

Jeff-

Thank you for the info on that, I just did not want to assume before I order a set of wheels from Summit Racing.

One more question, on the 17" wheels, are any made with a neutral offset?

I am mainly looking for wheels that, for all intense purposes are as an example 17x8, with a true 4" offset, or in the case of the 17x9, a 4.5" offset so the wheel is on the center line of the hub mount surface.

 

Thank you,

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/10/2009 2:23:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  mailto:jeffdanbom@cragar.com - jeffdanbom@cragar.com  writes:

If a wheel is called a 15x8, it measures 9" wide, likewise a 15x9 will
measure 10" wide.  The measurement is from bead to bead, which is 1/2"
from the outer lip on both sides.

Thanks,

Jeff Danbom
CRAGAR Industries, Inc.
Tel. 877.8CRAGAR (877.827.2427)
Fax 877.827.2427
mailto:jeffdanbom@cragar.com - jeffdanbom@cragar.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Cragar Industries [ mailto:contact@cragar.com? - mailto:contact@cragar.com ] 
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:40 PM
To: Andrew
Subject: Cragar.com Contact Autoresponse

Thanks for contacting Cragar!  We'll be getting back to you as soon as
possible.

Name: Andrew
E-mail:  mailto:Eliteman76@aol.com - eliteman76@aol.com

Subject: Technical Support
Body: 
Hello-
I am looking for the exact specs on the wheel dimensions for
part#345-8912, I need to confirm the actual measurements for this wheel
but do not find anything posted online.
I am looking to see if the overall width is 9", or if that is the width
of the bead area from inside to inside edge.
Thank you
Andrew 



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Andrew


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 27-February-2010 at 6:16AM
post a picture of that!
jack it up from the center of the diff, mount the rim and take some pics of just the rim on it.
Some shots with yard stick to show the measurements.
 
THAT would greatly help us all.


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 07-March-2010 at 4:34PM
I played with tires and rims today!!!
 
Resizing to post pics...
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 07-March-2010 at 4:55PM
DAMN IT!!!
Lost a WHOLE POST WITH PICS!!!!
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 07-March-2010 at 5:03PM
Here you go...
Pumped air shocks all the way up!
 
275/60/15 rear on 15x7 rims, tire is 27.5" tall, fender sits at 29"
225/70/14 front on 14x7 rims, tire is 25.25"tall, fender sits at 26"
 
NOW... added the 295/50/15 tires on the 15x10 rims (3.5" backspacing)
Tire is 26" tall with fender sitting at 28.5"
You can see the tire sticks out and leaves alot of room to the frame.
NOW I dropped all the air out of the shocks to change the rake...
They RUB! Disregard the measurement card. The fender sits almost ON the tire!
 
 
Leave the 295/50/15(15x10rim) on the rear AND put the same on the FRONT!
Pumped the shocks back up for these.
With this combo it rubbed the front and rear of the front fender.
A small adjustment to the backspace would make it clear (MAYBE)
But damn it looks badass! NASCAR/MADMAX style like a bulldog that says DO NOT F**K WITH ME!
Here's the pics of the 295 on the front rubbing and rear clearance
 
Dropped the air pressure out of the shocks with the 295s on front and rear...
WOW THAT HAS A COOL FLAT STANCE!!!
Forgot that pic!!! Angry
 
Here's the PLAY with the rear wheel...
These are with the Airshocks pumped back up all the way.
Turned the rim around so instead of a 3.5" backspace it had 6.5"
With a 1/4" spacer it would bolt up without touching the rim cone to the drum.
With a 1" spacer it would clear everything at the frame and still be tucked inside the fender.
So I THINK a 4"-5" back space would put the tire and rim in the right place.
 
Clearance is TIGHT with the 6.5" backspace...
Wheel is tucked in...
Dropped all the air out of the shocks and it almost looks like it is tubbed...
 
So there are my Tire adventrues for the day!
 
MY decision...
295/50/15 on the back with a 15x10 rim have to decide on the backspace most likely 5" so it sits right inside the fender lip after I roll the lip under and smoothe the sharp edges.
255/60/15 OR 255/70/15 on the front with a 15x8 rim and then play with backspace to fit it in.
Have to put both under the fender and see what looks right, I am thinking the 255/60 is the right one!
 
 
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 07-March-2010 at 11:03PM
Originally posted by 73 ProStreetTorino 73 ProStreetTorino wrote:

so those are the 15x10's you got from Brent in AZ.No wonder you wanted pics of the rim sticking past with 3.5 back spacing.Wow with the tire they stick out pretty far.Wish you measured from the outside of the tire to the inside of the quarter lip,tuat would tell me how much I need to narrow the rear.I knew I wouldn't have to worry about the frame rails.I believw Gary is running or had 15x10 w/4.5 backspacing & said they clear & no rubbing.not sure on tire size but it's in this thread.I want that deepdish look so i'm gonna narrow the rear so they fit inside.Thanks for the photos that helps.Your gonna have a hard time finding 15x10 slots with 4.5 backspacing.Most did the airshocks & tires sticking out in the 70's.If you don't use those 15x10 3.5 bs slots,do you want to sell them?I tried to get them but Brent had already told you could buy them.
 
 
Yes, they are the rims I got from Brent in AZ.
I am not going to use them, will definately sell them to you. PM Me, I will look through my PM's find out what I paid total with shipping and that is what I'll sell them for plus shipping.
 
I saw the post that someone had 15x10 with the deeper backspace and 295/50/15 as well... REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE PICS!!!
 
I am going to order a cheap set of steel wheels just to use for fit and measurements during the restoration/build.


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 5:50AM
Carl, had I known...I have a pair of 15x10 Chrome Aero Racing wheels sitting in the garage, 5" offset.
Brand new in the box!
DOH!Geek


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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 1:54PM
Carl-
Here is the pick off Summit Racing's site-
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/aeo-52_silver_w.jpg - http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/aeo-52_silver_w.jpg ">
Link to Summit's site http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEO-58-204550/?rtype=10

Direct link to Aero Racing's site: http://www.aeroracewheels.com/wheel_pgs/fifty_eight_series.html 

And for kickers, for the love of Pete someone buy my nascar 15x9.5 wheels. There are Aero Racing's type 59, true, honest to goodness super speedway wheels.
Only thing is, you are going to have to run a 5x5 lincoln bolt pattern. Easy enough to change up front, but rear axle, you are going to need to get axles or redrill your bolt pattern. Oh, did I mention, you will need a 5/8" wheel stud and 1" lug nuts? Wacko




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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 1:58PM
And for your 295/50r15 pleasure:
And for the record, these wheels will turn lock to lock and not rub with 295's on them. My only issue is I saw the tire seem to get close to my wheel lips, but I have the extreme short coil spring.
I did NOT fit them out back because I can't use as I didn't convert to 5x5 on my axles.

I however have 11x2.5 drums, backing plates off a 77 LTD with the 5x5 bolt pattern, and a pair of usable 1972 mark5? 12" rotors. It would require getting the full size caliper bracket.



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Andrew


Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 3:18PM

Hey guys,

Came across some pics of my old Starsky LE. I had 15 x 10 ET IV slots with LR60-15 Eagle GT's on the rear with 14 x 6 ET IV's with the OEM BF Goodrich HR78-14's on the front. Kept the air shocks about 90% filled because the wheel lip would touch just enough to cut into the sidewalls. Had I known how at the time, I would have rolled the wheel lips and all would have been fine. Not sure what the back spacing was but they were nice and deep! Here are a few pics.....
 
 
 
 
Hope this was helpful.
 
JOE


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1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone
Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 3:26PM
Andy,
those 15x10 black racing wheels are what offset? 5 inch?
 
LOVIN THE LOOK OF THOSE 295/50/15 on the front!!!


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 4:33PM
Off hand, not 100%. The rims are classed as a 15 x 9.5" rim; I have never checked the offset on the wheels to confirm.
On my GTS...depending on how much tires will end up costing, I may actually put OEM front brakes back on my car and pull the crown vic brakes because I desperately just want to really run a 295/50r15 up front.
I need to debate things. No happy medium here man...LOL
I thankfully have my 1976 Spindles and the 1976 9" that I may just take and redrill the axles and new rotors for a 5x5 bolt pattern with 5/8" wheel studs.
I already have the correct brakes for it, and the wheels.
I will however need to replace my front springs either way because the fronts are too short and I don't want the tires rubbing on the front lips.
Don't know yet.
I have one last option I need to look at before I give up on 295 series tires.



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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 5:03PM
Think I found my solution.
Carl, sent you a PM.
Andy
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 7:58PM
Well, bit the bullet.
Got new rollers ordered from Summit Racing.
nitto 255/50R17 front and 275/50R17 out back. Crager 17x9, with help from one of the guys on Ford Muscle.
My wife must really love my dumb ass.


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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-March-2010 at 8:01PM
Here is his 1972 Gran Torino...I sold him a hood like 7 years ago.


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Andrew


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 09-March-2010 at 1:46AM
Are those Cragar wheels or Ford Bullit wheels? They look good on that Torino! Tire sizes??

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"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 09-March-2010 at 5:54AM
Nope, rim I picked was a 17x9, 5" backspacing {according to cragar's tech guy I emailed, the wheel is technically a 10" wide rim, lip to lip, which will have a zero offset. Will see when I get the wheels for the GTS, I will document for you guys.
I only went to this combo after deciding against a 295/50R16 BFG because I could not get a slightly narrower front tire.
 


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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 09-March-2010 at 5:55AM
Wheels are I want to say on that grey formal roof are the torque thrusts, but don't know for sure.


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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 09-March-2010 at 3:57PM
Andy,
the pics you posted of the 295's on the front...
those are with the 9.5's or 10's??
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 09-March-2010 at 6:04PM
The wheels up front are the Nascar 15 x 9.5 wheels. The ones that have the 5 x 5 bolt pattern.

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Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 12-March-2010 at 11:04AM
I love those aero NASCAR wheels. I was looking at them online and i was wondering,are the NASCAR 15x9.5s the same design as the 58 series? Would it look weird if I put the NASCARs on the back and 15x8s on the front? thanks, Lou

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Lou and Brad

1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 14-March-2010 at 12:51PM

MORE tire work!

Here are 245/60/14 tires mounted on 14x8 rims with 2.5" backspacing
25" tire height
26" fender height
 
 
 
NOW here is a comparison of this tire MOUNTED next to my 265/50/15 tire NOT mounted.
 
 
First look with the 2 tires side by side and looking a them... the 245/60/14 actually looks BETTER than the 265/50/15!?
I will post all the sizes info I have for Comparisons in another post.


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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 14-March-2010 at 2:36PM
here is what I came up with...
 
I THINK it will look great with 295/50/15 on 15x10 rims for the rear and 245/60/14 on 14x8 rims out front.
These are VERY close in height/diameter AND sidewall, so they will look close to the same just a little thinner on the front.
That is IF I do not go with the 295/50/15 all the way around!
 
tire size MAX Inflation Tread Depth Tire Weight Width Range Rim Width Sect Width Tread Width Sidewall Height Overall Diam. Height RPMs
295 50 15 2061 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 32lbs 8-11" 9.5" 12.2" 147.5cm 26.7" 779
275 60 15 2149 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 36lbs 7-9.5" 8" 11" 9.7" 165cm 28" 743
255 60 15 1885 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 29lbs 6.5-10" 7.5" 10.2" 159cm 27.1" 768
265 50 15 132.5cm
245 60 14 1675 lbs 35 psi 11/32" 26lbs 7-8.5" 7" 9.8" 147cm 25.6" 813
225 70 14 1675 lbs 35 psi 12/32" 26lbs 6-7.5" 6.5" 9" 157.5cm 26.5" 785
 
Apparently the 265/50/15 are an ODD size, I can only find them in a few off brand tires.
BOTH the 245/60/14 and 295/50/15 are readily available in the BF Goodrich everywhere for around $100 each.
 
Edited... Forgot to say I use TireRack.com and the BFG's for all the above info


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 14-March-2010 at 3:52PM
Lou-
They type 59 Nascar wheels are only available in a 5x5 bolt pattern, like what the Lincoln and full size Ford/ Mercury use. Thing is, depending on how your state is on local inspections on older cars, you would be better off going to someone like Bassett. Otherwise, another source for wheels is to seriously check around at local race shops that do IMCA or modified racing.
There is a race shop here in Omaha that one of my cousins use to co-own that he got out of, that they have a ton of 15" steel wheels in a 15x8 for pretty cheap new.
You can also pick up cragar steel D window wheels that are DOT legal pretty reasonable, I got my set at Summit racing.

http://www.bassettwheel.com/dot.html 



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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 14-March-2010 at 4:04PM
Andy,
looks like I am gonna pass on those rims at this time.
 
Have to decide what I am going to do on the front.
15x10 all the way around and I can use them.
 
If I go with the 14x8 on the front... it SERIOUSLY lessens my choice of wheels!
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 15-March-2010 at 5:12AM
pretty much, but any of our cars look alot better with a wide wire to fill up the wheel well.
On the rims, the easiest is a 15x8 in front, 15x10 in back.
A 15x10 can be run on all 4 corners, but I have never personally verifed yet with the 15x10's I have being street driven.
On a street car, one thing I wanted to bring up is the fact a car with steamroler tires loks great, but wider tires have the annoying tendancy to grab ruts and wander a bit.
I drove my '84 F150 for 5 years with 295/50/15's 3/4 of the year, and I will tell you, ruts and heavy water, even with an all sean BFG radial TA would make things interedting at times.
It's been a very long time since I've driven with a 295/50r15 on the front of a Torino, not since I had my parent's 1976 Elite, have I run a 15x8 with a 295/50r15, when I was in high school in the early-mid 90's.
With that said though, a 295 will fit up front.
if the weather is decent enough, I will try to get a 295 mounted onto one of the chrome wheels and fit it on the '73 GTS front and then I will toss on the back of my '72 GTS.
 
 
 


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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 15-March-2010 at 3:13PM
Well I know the 15x10 rims I have will not do the trick without a little mod.
 
They rubbed the front AD rear of the front quarter. I think a deeper set(more backspace would let them clear without issue. I just need to make sure the offsets are the same so the front doesn't stick out further than the rear.
 
So I just might take the rims after all!
I got the 245/60/14's cleaned up and ready to mount just for moving and size comparison.
I have 255/60/15s on the front of my truck with 295/50/15 on the back... they look good in combo... MIGHT be a good fit all around.


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Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 22-March-2010 at 11:15AM
Andy-
this is kind of delayed but, Maryland couldn't care less about old cars until they cause a wreck. I love how those chrome aero wheels look and they are reasonably priced to, whats not to love!


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Lou and Brad

1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: BBPeik
Date Posted: 13-April-2010 at 2:19PM
15x8 4.5 backspace rear 275/60/15
15x7 3.5 backspace front 225/70/15
Could go a bit taller on the rear, but I was not sure and did not want to over do it.
Brendan


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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 13-April-2010 at 2:27PM
Removed original post...
The look I want... big fat rear rubber that does not stick out ridiculously from the fender well.
Front smaller but still a GOOD size rubber and again... not sticking out... tucked in like the photo I have on here with the keystones!
 
I think I just found the Rims!!!
 
15x8 comes in 3 different backspaces, I think the 4.5 would be best? Maybe the 3.5?
thats why I am looking for a pic of the 15x8 and what tire & backspace you have. 
 
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Billet-Specialties/Product-Line/Billet-Specialties-Street-Lite-Wheels/Wheel-Bolt-Pattern/5-x-4-1-2-in/Wheel-Diameter/15-in/Wheel-Width-in/8-00-in/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc&autoview=SKU - http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Billet-Specialties/Product-Line/Billet-Specialties-Street-Lite-Wheels/Wheel-Bolt-Pattern/5-x-4-1-2-in/Wheel-Diameter/15-in/Wheel-Width-in/8-00-in/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc&autoview=SKU
 
Will fit the 245/60/15 tire which is 26.6 tall
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Radial+T%2FA&sidewall=&partnum=46SR5RADTARWL2&tab=Specs - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Radial+T%2FA&sidewall=&partnum=46SR5RADTARWL2&tab=Specs
 
15x10 comes in 5 different backspaces best one is 4.5 or 5.5 depends on if the 5.5 with tire rubs.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Billet-Specialties/Product-Line/Billet-Specialties-Street-Lite-Wheels/Wheel-Bolt-Pattern/5-x-4-1-2-in/Wheel-Diameter/15-in/Wheel-Width-in/10-00-in/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc&autoview=SKU - http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Billet-Specialties/Product-Line/Billet-Specialties-Street-Lite-Wheels/Wheel-Bolt-Pattern/5-x-4-1-2-in/Wheel-Diameter/15-in/Wheel-Width-in/10-00-in/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc&autoview=SKU
 
Will fit the 295/50/15 which is 26.7 tall
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Radial+T%2FA&sidewall=&partnum=95SR5RADTARWL2&tab=Specs - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Radial+T%2FA&sidewall=&partnum=95SR5RADTARWL2&tab=Specs
 
smaller yet same height on front
the 255/60/15 is 27.1 tall which is a little bit taller than the 295/50 rear
 
 
Pulsars are nice too...
 
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-541-5165PS/?rtype=10 - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-541-5165PS/?rtype=10


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 13-April-2010 at 4:24PM
Speaking of which, I got the 295/50/r15 mounted up today. Of course, I dropped the GTS off at the paint shop, but I could fit the setup on the '73 GTS if need be.



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Posted By: gpd294
Date Posted: 14-April-2010 at 2:30AM

I figured now that I have installed my original steel wheels and new tires I'd post a few pictures. I took it back to original, although I did fudge a little bit because I couldn't justify spending over $200 per tire (Coker Tire) for a weekend toy. I went with P215 75 14 white walls all the way around and a spare. The steel wheels were cleaned up, sanded down, and POR-15 painted. I figure if I ever do any cross country trips I'll have to upgrade to either a 15 inch or bigger wheel.

Here is a pic:
 
EDIT: Due to original link posted is no longer good


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Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 14-April-2010 at 5:40AM
Dude, I like your wagon!
On the stock look, they fit the bill really nice.
If you happen to need a set of 15" steel OEM torino wheels, let me know.
I've been keeping a set around here in case I ever need a set of wheels for a project, but would be willing to let go to a good home. Like your wagon. Thumbs Up
 
Only bummer thing is to ship them!


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Andrew


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 15-April-2010 at 4:42PM

Reading back through the whole thread it appears MANY different BS have been used on the front.

What it the largest measured backspace that fits on the 72?
I see a couple saying they have 4.5" of backspace.
I would like to see some good pics of a 15x8 rim with 4.5" backspace.
Pic where the rim is close to the top of the spindle by the upper ball joint and anywhere else it comes CLOSE!
Also where the tire clears the front and rear of the fender lip.
 
I THINK... a 15x8 with a 4.5 BS will allow the front tire to tuck up into the fender IF the car was lowered substantially without rubbing. Or at least not rub when hitting bumps and turning.
 
Someone help with pics?


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Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 16-April-2010 at 2:58AM
I have a 17x8 with a 4.5" BS. Car is a big block on small block springs (slight lowering effct). If the nose isn't lined up PERFECTLY, it will rub in turns. I had to tweak the lower fenders a bit. 

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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 16-April-2010 at 11:50AM
Originally posted by Psquare75 Psquare75 wrote:

I have a 17x8 with a 4.5" BS. Car is a big block on small block springs (slight lowering effct). If the nose isn't lined up PERFECTLY, it will rub in turns. I had to tweak the lower fenders a bit. 
The 17 inch doesn't help me with my question.
The 17 will be higher and clear the spindle and the ball joints different than the 15s.
 
Apples and oranges
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 20-April-2010 at 3:22PM
OK, here are of the shots.
Now you all can run out and run 295/50R15 tires and 15x10 Aero Racing wheels on all 4 corners.
I can not tell you how much it pained me NOT to run this combo on my GTS.

tie rod clearance:

the upper ball joint is tight. I have a metal frame square I used, there is less than 7/16" to 3/8" of clearance.


this view is what does it for me ever freaking time:



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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 20-April-2010 at 3:39PM

LOVE IT!

So now I know...
15x8 with 4.5 BS will fit nicely in the front
15x10 with 4.5 BS will fit and look the way I want it!!!
 
THANKS!!!
 
So now I have to decide on the Street Lites or the Pulsars!
 


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Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 21-April-2010 at 9:45AM

I LOVE those chrome aeros! They look amazing on the car



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1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 22-April-2010 at 5:31AM
They are available. I have $110 into the pair, as I got them on a clearance sale, brand new, direct from Aero.
You can buy the wheels from summit racing, I think they are around $108 each.
15x8 chrome wheels are only $82. On the type 58 wheels, Summit doesn't have them catorgarized really well. This is only a suggestion though. Black steelies are cheaper.
You can run a basic center cap from like a ranger/exporer/crown vic as well.
 
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Wheels-Tires/?keyword=aero+58&page=1 - http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Wheels-Tires/?keyword=aero+58&page=1  
 
I am not going to use them, so any takers?
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 24-April-2010 at 4:09PM
LOL...nice.
Well, I could probably tack weld on the rockers for ya...

Seriously though, anyone need a pair of 15x 10's?



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Andrew


Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 24-April-2010 at 4:20PM
I could use those rims, but I am buying a lot of parts at the end of the month and it will be probably around mid may, early june before I could get the money out. If they are still around I would love to buy them, but dont hold them for me. So does the car turn good with 15x10s on the front? Im thinking 15x10s on the back and 15x8s on the front but you have me thinking. lol

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Lou and Brad

1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 24-April-2010 at 4:51PM
No problems man...just tired of storing a bunch of crap I am not going to use.



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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 24-April-2010 at 5:47PM
A minor update:
I got my tires is mounted up today.
The wheels are 17x9, 5" BS. The wheels are right at about 9.5-10" wide with the bead area {total width}.
I can not wait to get these on the GTS.



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Andrew


Posted By: occupant
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 4:41AM
You gonna put trim rings on those to hide the wheel weights, or just re-balance them static? They do make 17" trim rings, I can't for the life of me remember for what, but they are out there.


Posted By: stanman
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 5:24AM
You'll never see them at 120 mph.


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 12:12PM
What size tires are those?

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"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 1:08PM
The tires are Nitto NT450, 275/50r17 on rear, 255/50r17 for the fronts.
The 275's are on the left, the 255's on the right.
 


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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 1:10PM
Originally posted by occupant occupant wrote:

You gonna put trim rings on those to hide the wheel weights, or just re-balance them static? They do make 17" trim rings, I can't for the life of me remember for what, but they are out there.
I was talking to the guys about using stick on weights, but they neded up using the hammer on type.
After what I paid...Ouch...I wish they would of used the stick on ones, but I told the guy I plan on doing some sprited driving...Wink


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Andrew


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 1:18PM
Oh, I almost forgot I am not going to run trim rings, just my chrome CV caps.
I plan on taking some of the paint for the car and adding hardner and pin stripping the lip.
 


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Andrew


Posted By: occupant
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 2:00PM
What I meant was doing a static balance where the balance machine only instructs the tech to put weights on the INSIDE of the rim, as opposed to a dynamic balance where weights go on both sides.

It's what I was taught in high school auto shop. Maybe no one does that anymore, I would think with all the pretty chrome rims they sell these days that it would have been done. I always request it when I do visit tire shops, which is rare because I have too much fun pulling full sets with deep tire tread from junkyards.


Posted By: Torinogts73c
Date Posted: 25-April-2010 at 2:03PM
They look good Andy!

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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,97 Mustang GT Vert

"Never complain Never explain"


Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 07-May-2010 at 5:13AM
so just to recap again.. a 15x10 wheel will fit inside the rear wheelwell with which one, a 4,  4.5 , or 5 inch backspace?
 got a chance to buy some used Weld's tonight and need to know!! thanks.


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1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 07-May-2010 at 4:59PM
4.5 is a MUST in order to JUST fit inside the wheel well.
5 will fit without any chance of rubbing
 


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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 08-May-2010 at 1:21PM
They need to be a 5" offset Pete, otherwise will stick too far out.

These Aero Racing wheels are a 15 x 10, 5" back space.
Without screwing you all up a bit, keep in mind, these are technically almost 11" wide, but the 10" is bead to bead area.
Anyways...the 15x10, 5" back space.
With the short 295 50 15 on all 4 corners, you can rocket down the road.
Just as a warning, big wide tires on any vehicle, will want to grab at ruts some times.
Out back, though, you are fine.

And, lastly, anyone interested?
I had ta ask again Wink

I will do $125 shipped to your door for the pair...and it keeps me from wanting to mount up some DOT drag slicks...


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Andrew


Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 08-May-2010 at 1:52PM
andy those wheels of yours look awesome. I cant believe you didnt want to use them!     i have an obssession for some weld draglites right now.    i had a chance on some locally through craigslist, but he sold them before i could get over and measure the backspace.  we will hope they wouldnt have fit.

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1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 09-May-2010 at 4:05PM
I know...I would run them on all 4 corners, but I can't run a 15" wheel.
If I could I would of ditched my 5x4.5" bolt pattern and got some new hubs and gone 5x5" with my nascar wheels.



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Andrew


Posted By: Ranchero72
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 6:13AM
Has anybody ever bought a set of these?  I'd like to do a set of these on my car but I'm afraid they won't fit by my calculations.  As per my math and reading through this thread a couple times:
 
18x9 wheel is 10in wide and has a 24mm offset, 0 offset is at 5in and you add 24mm (0.944in) for a total of 5.95in of backspacing which is a bit too much.
 
18x10 wheel is 11in wide and has a 22mm offset, 0 offset is at 5.5in and you add 22mm (0.86in) for a total of 6.3in of backspacing which is also a bit too much.
 
I'd really like to have a set as I have OEM Magnum 500's and 14in tires are hard to find, plus the cool factor.  Thanks!
 
Originally posted by rtgreen rtgreen wrote:

This vendor is running a sale on Magnum 500's from 18x10 to 20x10 in Deep Dish styles. The 1994-2004 Mustang fitment will work on our cars. Enjoy!
 
http://cruizinconceptswholesale.com/products.asp?cat=257 - http://cruizinconceptswholesale.com/products.asp?cat=257
 


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'72 Ford Ranchero 500
-351C C4


Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 6:40AM
You'd need some massive spacers. IMO, that's a bad idea. 

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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 7:55AM
I'd just run the 15x8 magnum 500...15" tires, with like a 275/60r15 out back and a 255/60r15 in front.
Big car...needs some sidewall.
 


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Andrew


Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 8:05AM
bah, mine is fine on 50s and I plan to run 275 40 20s when I upgrade :). 

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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 8:08AM
wel,, I'll find out soon enough if those 6 ply nitto's ride as stiff as I think they are going to.


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Andrew


Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 12-May-2010 at 8:13AM

lol, I have the same Nittos on my car, remember? I loved em.




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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 16-July-2010 at 8:35AM
I think I have figured out my set up, any flaws?
15x10s with on the back with 275/60/15 tires
15x8s on the front with 255/60/15 tires.
Still thinking about backspacing and offset.
-Lou



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Lou and Brad

1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 17-July-2010 at 5:29AM
Originally posted by moose0211 moose0211 wrote:

I think I have figured out my set up, any flaws?
15x10s with on the back with 275/60/15 tires
15x8s on the front with 255/60/15 tires.
Still thinking about backspacing and offset.
-Lou

COULD use 15X8 all the way around with those tires sizes.
 


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1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: moose0211
Date Posted: 17-July-2010 at 6:06AM

Wouldnt 275s on a 15x8 be very tall? I really like how Uantes car looked with the 275s on 15x10s, because the tires looked "big" as opposed to the low looking 295s.



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Lou and Brad

1972 Gran Torino- 351C/4r70w
1970 Chevy C30


Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 17-July-2010 at 3:50PM
i have 275 60 15's on the rear of my car, just put them on. i will get pics up soon. yes they are tall, but in a good way.

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-Pete
1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: albo74
Date Posted: 23-July-2010 at 6:27AM
                    yes thats is what is on my 74 ,215-70s  7'' and 275 60s on rear, 8''   ansen sprint wheels, the whole deal ,wheels and tires was around a grand, S&H  old school ,  suspension is all stock.

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Posted By: Carl
Date Posted: 25-July-2010 at 12:11PM

While installing my new drag radials today I decided to mount up a few different wheel/tire combos I have and take some pictures for you guys.

1st up: 255/50R17's on 17x8 alum wheels with 4.5" backspace.
-This is my road race/street setup.  I really like them a lot.
 
2nd: 255/65R16's on 16x7 alum wheels with 4.25" backspace from a Ford Ranger.
-I run these on my 68 Mercury.  At 29x10.5, they're pushing the limit of what will fit the 73 but I think they actually look nice.  Not a chance the tires would work on the front though, just too big.
 
3rd: 255/60R15 drag radials on 15x8 steels with 4" backspace.
-Same tread width as 275/60's but a little shorter.  I think they look a little goofy but they fit and they're sticky.
 


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 27-July-2010 at 6:57PM
Man...I like the GT-M...'73's look bad ass.
I sort of always debated what I late model ranger wheel would have looked like. If that was a 8" wheel instead of a 7", I would of almost gone that route.
On those drag radials...I would of picked up the 295/65r15's. They are huge, fat tires but DAMN just fills up the tubs.



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Andrew


Posted By: Carl
Date Posted: 28-July-2010 at 3:28AM
Originally posted by Eliteman76 Eliteman76 wrote:

Man...I like the GT-M...'73's look bad ass.
I sort of always debated what I late model ranger wheel would have looked like. If that was a 8" wheel instead of a 7", I would of almost gone that route.
On those drag radials...I would of picked up the 295/65r15's. They are huge, fat tires but DAMN just fills up the tubs.

 
Thanks.  I would have preferred the new 295/55R15 size but it would have been almost twice the price with the new wheels they'd require.  These are the wheels I had and the 255's are what fit them.  Plus, with them having the same exterior dimensions as my street tires, I can use one as a spare.
 


Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 01-August-2010 at 4:00PM
this is what i am running now.  weld 15x8's   
 3.5 b/s rear with 275/60/15,
4.5 b/s front with 235/60/15


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-Pete
1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 01-August-2010 at 4:31PM


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-Pete
1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 02-August-2010 at 5:40AM
True... the cost on that size tire ain't exactly cheap.
 
Carl-
Stupid question, are you in California? And does your GT-M have a 347 stroker in it?
I ask because when a buddy of mine, when he lived in Tracy, CA built a 347 for a red GT-M...
 
Wait, scratch that, it was a '72 GT-M. Confused 


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Andrew



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