INFO: 1972 - 1979 Body Insulator Bushings
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Topic: INFO: 1972 - 1979 Body Insulator Bushings
Posted By: Psquare75
Subject: INFO: 1972 - 1979 Body Insulator Bushings
Date Posted: 04-January-2010 at 4:51PM
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Taken from Ranchero.us with permission of 72GTVA Attached are some diagrams for Body Mounts: If we find a source for bushings correctly sized we'll post that information too:   Note: Sometime between '73 and '75 the #4 body mount was eliminated and, the #5 mount on the 77-79 models is not a bolt in unit like the 72-76 models. The frame does not have an access for the hardware. They use a press in type rubber mount that sits on the frame and the body just lays on that (no hardware).   If you have any updated measurements or information send me a note and we'll include it with this Reference Note. ------------- Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Posted By: smitty-1976
Date Posted: 06-January-2010 at 7:14AM
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Energy Suspension has a universal Body Mount that I used on my '76. Look under universal products. I am going off memory but i believe the number is 9.4102.
http://www.energysuspension.com/universal-products/link-flange-type-bushings-universal-mounts-isolators.html - http://www.energysuspension.com/universal-products/link-flange-type-bushings-universal-mounts-isolators.html
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Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:10PM
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Hey, just a little tidbit I wanted to also pass along. Late model crown vic body mounts are identical to the original Torino units. -------------  Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:18PM
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tell me more Andy!!!!
------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 11-March-2010 at 4:43PM
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While I was out at the yard pulling the tbird/CV seats and wandering around, there was a police cruiser I want to say 2000-2002 in the yard, and it was missing a 1/4. Went over and the body bushings were easy enough to get at, and the thing looked about identical to the Torino. Pulling it out of the frame, they have the same little bump that my originals had, for alignment in the frame. I didn't see the lower body bushing, but it's something worth taking a look at. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 22-March-2010 at 1:50AM
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For those who missed this post.......
http://forum.grantorinosport.org/body-mounts_topic2166_post18426.html?KW=body+mounts#18426 - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/body-mounts_topic2166_post18426.html?KW=body+mounts#18426
------------- Jim |
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Posted: 18-November-2009 at 6:18PMPosted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 22-March-2010 at 10:48AM
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NOW... I am confuzzled!
Are they in fact the same or are they in fact different but will work?
IF they are not identical and will work... what will the difference do?
------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 22-March-2010 at 1:03PM
Email me for info I just lost all I tried to post "ACCESS DENIED"   ------------- Jim |
cowboyupdjcarl wrote:Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 26-March-2010 at 4:01AM
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OK I'll try it again,
These CV mounts are about as close as you will come without modifying. The differences are minor and I don't consider to be too big a deal. You just need new bolts and the radiator core support mounts. I am going to use a combination of old core support mounts and new. New consisting of possibly 73 truck core support mounts I bought and the universal mounts I bought from Energy Suspensions. This should work fine. I should be able to get it done without too many problems. ------------- Jim |
Posted By: rrlcommish
Date Posted: 26-March-2010 at 8:32AM
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Where do you get new bolts? ------------- 1972 Gran Torino Sport Fastback, Bored 30-over 351C - 4V, Lt Blue, Pertronix Ignitor, dual exhaust with Turbo mufflers, otherwise stock |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 26-March-2010 at 12:20PM
You need a bolt that's a little longer. I'm going to measure the old bolts and mount and figure against the new mount and order them online. They are 8 grade and can be bought online easily. ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 26-March-2010 at 5:34PM
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Keep in mind, the OEM bolts have a taper. Which may mean you will need to grind the tip to aid in putting the bolt in. I had a parts car with mint isolators that I used. I tried using new bolts identical in size, however due to them not being tapered, they were a PITA to try to use, so I dug through my collection of bolts cleaned the threads up, and reused what I had. I still have a couple boxes of Torino mounts. Concerning the radiator support mounts, I have posted what I used 3 or 4 times. Ford LTD bushings, they were available for pretty reasonable from ford. What I used was Ford bushings meant for an LTD, I forget the year. My parts receipt shows: E2AZ*5400155*A ABSORBER List $7.75, net cost each was $6.43 each back in 2002. Damn, that's depressing...2002 is when I got them, and I still aint done almost 7 years later.  Anyways:    ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 27-March-2010 at 3:10AM
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Andy, Is that a 2pc mount? Do you buy 2 or 4? ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 27-March-2010 at 2:47PM
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I bought 4 of them. I also bought a couple plated body washers {shown in the picture with the red prybar} inserted into the top. Pretty much identical in size to originals, plus they are not rubber. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 27-March-2010 at 4:39PM
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What did you use inside the frame? ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 28-March-2010 at 5:27PM
 you know what, I honestly am drawing a blank.I will try to take a peak tomorrow and see. I thought I only bought 4, but maybe thinking now I got 6. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: rrlcommish
Date Posted: 05-April-2010 at 2:24AM
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I measured my bolts and they are 2 1/2" long, 1 1/2" thread, 7/16" coarse thread and 5/8" hex head. Anyone know how much longer of a bolt is needed? And where did you order the new bolts from? ------------- 1972 Gran Torino Sport Fastback, Bored 30-over 351C - 4V, Lt Blue, Pertronix Ignitor, dual exhaust with Turbo mufflers, otherwise stock |
Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 27-April-2010 at 11:40AM
Hello everyone ! I got the energy suspension kit for a chevelle ? I am not ready for them yet but will be before winter. Does anybody know a good inexpensive rear controll arm set up ? 
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Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 05-July-2010 at 9:20AM
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Anyone actually USE ANYTHING from this sticky yet?
------------- Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 05-July-2010 at 10:36AM
| Yes !! I got quite alot from this thread. I may not be offering any records in rebuilding but I am moving fwd. I recently bought a 1971 429 thunder jet engine with the ( dove-c ) heads to build my 514 stroker from. |
Posted By: occupant
Date Posted: 05-July-2010 at 11:06AM
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Something we could do is build up a TECH ARCHIVE of the important, but not posted on often, threads that contain vital information. Stuff like the links to the 335 engine website, this body mount thread, etc etc. They can be copied over and made to be read-only or something and in their own forum. Or left in a single stickied thread up top. Then leave the original where it was for discussions about it, and have links to the discussion thread from the "tech archive" thread. ------------- 08 Uplander LS, 262K, broken again 08 Explorer EB, 195K, for the wife still looking for another something |
Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 05-July-2010 at 11:33AM
| wwhhooaa That sounds wwaayyy to confusing to this old dawg. |
Posted By: occupant
Date Posted: 05-July-2010 at 1:02PM
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What I'm saying is instead of having six stickied threads up top, have ONE stickied thread that contains links and titles for the important threads. The threads may move around and get hits or not, but when you're looking for tech advice or a how-to thread, you could check the ONE stickied topic at the top of the list to see, oh, hey there it is, body insulator bushings, click it, and go to that thread. ------------- 08 Uplander LS, 262K, broken again 08 Explorer EB, 195K, for the wife still looking for another something |
Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 07-July-2010 at 3:12AM
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That's how Hotrodders.com is. I guess whatever the tribe wants (and Scott approves of). My initial question is still open. Who has actually tried to use any of these body bushings? ------------- Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 03-August-2010 at 5:52AM
 Well...small update:
For those out there following my messed up, screwed up 9 year build, the bushings I bought from Ford, for the radiator support, I would now suggest an alternative.
I was working on my AC system last week, and while under the car I noticed the 5 year old bushings deformed from what I can assume is too much pressure or weight.
So much for getting a body bushing from Ford thinking yeah, that's the ticket!
------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 03-August-2010 at 7:46AM
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Show us what you mean Andy ------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 28-September-2010 at 2:29PM
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Good thing that when I did my frame I left the rotted out rad mounts on it. Went thru sandblasting / POR / primmer / and undercoating. Everything from front to rear was removed except them. Left them because I was unsure ! Now I am putting new stuff and theyre still sitting there waiting ??? ------------- 72 gts fst bk in 1982 !! currently building 73 fast back with a dove-a 429. |
Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 28-September-2010 at 2:34PM
  ------------- 72 gts fst bk in 1982 !! currently building 73 fast back with a dove-a 429. |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 17-October-2010 at 2:36PM
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OK, sorry for the delay, to outline what I did on just the radiator support. I finally found the pictures and actually got them grouped together. So, here are the body bushings I located at a Ford dealer.   I stuck a body washer in the open end:  Using a new bolt identical to the original length:  This had some of the body spacers off my original support for this:  Last time I was under the car, I noticed this:   Needless to say, I am not happy. Need to check into other suggestions like the CV mounts. Another winter project I guess. **edited posting as all the original links were broken. Here is the shot of the updated bushing I used, as described in the other thread:    ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Ron Earp
Date Posted: 11-December-2010 at 11:12AM
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Guys, maybe this thread needs splitting into radiator mounts and body mounts. Two completely different animals here. With respect to a 72 GTS I'm interested in what to do about body mounts. My body is going back on the frame in about three weeks and I will need to solve this problem for sure. Unlike most of you it seems I do not have access to a salvage yard to walk around in and compare parts. A couple of questions: 1) Does anyone have the body diagrams shown at the start of the thread with the thicknesses of the mounts? I can't seem to make out the thicknesses. 2) The Crown Vic body mounts - they work but in some places might be 1/8" to 1/4" too thick? 3) I understand the mounts that are between the frame and the body. What is inside the frame? When I removed my body what was inside the frame was so badly rotted I can't tell how thick they were nor what they really looked like. ------------- 04 Ford Lightning 72 GTS BB Stroker & Toploader 98 Mustang ITS SCCA #38 08 Buell Ulysses http://www.gt40s.com" rel="nofollow - GT40s.com |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 11-December-2010 at 11:38AM
All your questions should be answered here........ http://forum.grantorinosport.org/1972-1979-body-insulator-bushings-updateupdate_topic4285.html - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/1972-1979-body-insulator-bushings-updateupdate_topic4285.html ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Ron Earp
Date Posted: 12-December-2010 at 12:40AM
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Excellent Jim! I have a question about your example and used your photo to assist. The thick blue line represents the top of the frame rail. A couple of questions: 1) Do I have the basic idea correct? 2) Do I need the "top" washer, the one that would go between the body and the mount? 3) Is there enough access from the bottom to actually get the lower mount into the frame? I don't remember the holes being that large but I also don't know how big a round these pieces are.  ------------- 04 Ford Lightning 72 GTS BB Stroker & Toploader 98 Mustang ITS SCCA #38 08 Buell Ulysses http://www.gt40s.com" rel="nofollow - GT40s.com |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 12-December-2010 at 5:06AM
The nut and washer in RED is not used when mount is installed. I used it for illustration only. (Yellow) rubber mount will be between the frame and body. BLUE circle is the under frame mount. I have it in the rear location, but it will fit perfectly through all frame holes. BLUE line is the frame. If you look carefully at the mount in yellow circle, you can see the silver steel sleeve. That is what goes between the body and this mount. ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 12-December-2010 at 7:28AM
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Hey Andy... IMO, you sure they aren't supposed to bulge like that OEM? If the height is correct and it doesn't move........ *shrug* ------------- Paul 77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 13-December-2010 at 1:59PM
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I don't know. One of my problems I am having...the front end of the front clip seems like it's move a hell of a lot. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: lynchster
Date Posted: 09-September-2011 at 5:31PM
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If anyone is interested I decided to take a shot using 68-72 Chevelle body mount bushings. The size is a decent match. I didn't have to trim anything but I did have to prep 4 spares (?) that came with the kit so I had 10 matching ones. Should know all there is to know next weekend.Chuck ------------- Chuck 72 Gran Torino Sport 13 Taurus SHO "Mr Pig" |
Posted By: torkair
Date Posted: 20-April-2012 at 5:42PM
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I am in need of radiator core support bushings, the ones on my Ranchero are totally trashed. Any recomendations?
------------- 72 Gran Torino "sport"- in progress 73 Ranchero GT- Q code-460/C6/3.25 open rear |
Posted By: 73GTS
Date Posted: 21-April-2012 at 3:32AM
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Yeah, read the "update" post ------------- Jim |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 21-April-2012 at 9:13PM
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Fixed the broken links on my debacle. inserted images. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: BackInBlack
Date Posted: 21-July-2012 at 9:53AM
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Anyone have pics using with the Energy suspension bushings mounted on their car? I'm working on replacing the bushings right now and noticed that the over all height is different and so shimming to align will be necessary. Problem is...now where do I get the shims? The old bushing stack has a large spacer with a couple shims. Right now...waiting for paint to dry...argh 90%+ humidity sure slows things down. -john ------------- -John 1973 GTS |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 24-July-2012 at 4:39PM
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John, best bet is to try a place like tractor supply,etc for shim stock. You can get large washers reasonable there. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 24-July-2012 at 7:45PM
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fender washers can usually be specified by hole size, outside diameter and thickness
any local fab shop should be able to whip out some square shims of varing thickness, the trick is to punch the holes before you go to the shear  ------------- 72 GT Ute |