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Glad you figured it out Joe.  Once you get that new pump on there, it should be a quick bleed and go. 
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you shouldn't have to really bleed anything just fill it and start turning the wheel while it's running, just turn until you feel resistance then let off then turn some more until it will turn smooth and even lock to lock Wink
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

you shouldn't have to really bleed anything just fill it and start turning the wheel while it's running, just turn until you feel resistance then let off then turn some more until it will turn smooth and even lock to lock Wink
 
Turning the wheel lock to lock (without hitting the stops) is always what I understood to be the process to "bleed" a P/S system.  I guess I should have clarified.  Every time I have done it, it's usually a very quick process.
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My new Lares pump arrived last week, so Saturday I set it out on the bench and compared it to my original....
 
 


and then I cleaned it good and got the first coat of paint on it.
 


The Super Clean Degreaser wasn't too kind to the paint on the reservoir, so I sand blasted it, the pulley and brackets and reshot them as well.
 
 
 


This weekend I'll second coat the pump and reservoir and then hit them with a coat of clear this time for a bit of added protection from future engine cleanings.

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Looks good. 

I just cleaned my pump and after the leaks seals were replaced, I did what my father used to do. Blue rattle can. Excelt he painted everything, including vacuum lines, stickers, wires, and anything else I forgot. Haha
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Last weekend I second coated the parts and this weekend, I reassembled the pump....
 
 
 


but I have about 1/32" of end play in the shaft, so I have contacted Lares to verify this is OK and would disappear once the pump is full of fluid and the system bled out and ready to go....  don't want to have to pull it off a third time!!

FUN, FUN, FUN!!!

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well if it don't work... it sure looks nice! Big smile
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pump assembly looks great very nice job! 
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QUICK UPDATE........ Heard back from Lares and they said all is good that filling and purging the power steering system will eliminate the shaft end play. WHEW.......... Beer

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** DOUBLE CLICK ON PICTURE TO SUPERSIZE **

A wee bit of progress last weekend. Got the power steering pump mounted and just about everything else rehung and the front end up in the air, but then ran into issues of not being able to find the new hardware I needed at any of the local auto parts stores Angry, so final assembly and fill & purge pushed back....

A bit more progress today.... got the power steering system plumbed up so I could monitor the air in the system. With the engine spitting and sputtering like a Top Fueler, I was able to get a few turns of the wheel in before the engine died, but it seems like the system is now operating correctly.
 


I will keep it rigged up until I get the engine running like she should and the system purged of all the air in the system. I pulled the plugs and they were fouled out again, so I'll get them cleaned up and see how she runs after that.

NEED TO GET THAT CARB FINE TUNED!!
 

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the way I was taught to purge PS is to fill the reservoir, and with the engine running, turn the wheels back and forth in small increments, gradually increasing the rotations each way.... keeping an eye on the reservoir so it stays filled.... until you can turn lock to lock a few times and the reservoir stays full.  That all takes just a couple minutes to do.
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Originally posted by hogfiddles hogfiddles wrote:

the way I was taught to purge PS is to fill the reservoir, and with the engine running, turn the wheels back and forth in small increments, gradually increasing the rotations each way.... keeping an eye on the reservoir so it stays filled.... until you can turn lock to lock a few times and the reservoir stays full.  That all takes just a couple minutes to do.

Lares said to crank and slowly turn the wheel while cranking (do not start) and keep the fluid level up where it needs to be. Easy to do with a helper but tough to do solo, Confused so I came up with a way to "overfill" the reservoir so I could crank and turn while keeping an eye on the level. Once the system was full, they said to start the engine and continue to cycle until all air has been purged. Even that's tough to do solo when the engine doesn't want to play nice. Ouch

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either way will work fine! i usually do it like dave described

sounds like it's way rich!!! check the float levels first!!!! then turn in the mixture screws...
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

either way will work fine! i usually do it like dave described

sounds like it's way rich!!! check the float levels first!!!! then turn in the mixture screws...

Had it not been a 100% new system, I would have just added the pump, fluid and started her up and turned the wheels side to side, but being all new and dry, I knew there would be a TON of air in the system and did not want to risk the pump going dry and getting junked, so I took the long route.

Yeah Johnny, once I get the plugs cleaned and reinstalled, attacking the carb is the first thing on the list!!

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Progress! Got the power steering operational and purged and she is now back on the ground and appears to be leak free.

Will run it some more next weekend to confirm everything stays dry, but by and large she is now ready to turn over to someone to handle the bodywork and paint. Hope to find that special craftsman in the days ahead!

Wish me luck.....


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 ah good!

i was considering submitting a request for a progress report here last night Wink
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Had a home emergency the previous Saturday (leaking hot water heater) that needed my attention, so the Tomato was left setting.... Cry

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Well I got the Torino repositioned so it was accessible all the way around so I could show it to prospective bodymen to get estimates on the bodywork and paint as well as engine access so I can get the carb adjusted and the engine timed correctly.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


I also pulled apart the sandblast cabinet...
 
 


to install a new viewing window, left hand glove and new led lights. Three light strips did a decent job illuminating the interior, but decided to add four more to insure there were no dark areas. Will get that all buttoned up next weekend.

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lighting looks great in the cabinet (well until the dust starts flying Confused)
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Originally posted by californiajohnny californiajohnny wrote:

lighting looks great in the cabinet (well until the dust starts flying Confused)

LOL, that's why I'm adding more fixtures! Wink

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A separate 200 amp service for the garage.Big smile
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