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This may be helpful to anyone who may have the same dilemma.
 
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295/50-15  is a good fit and easy to find as well!
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28x13.50x15   How's that sound??   Try going to http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial that should give you plenty to think about.
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Question:  I have a chance on a good deal for a NICE set of torque thrust wheels.  Dimensions and offsets are:
 
Front:  18x9 wheels  4" offset  245/40/18  9.65" wide x 25.72 high
 
Rear:  18x10 wheels  6" offset  285/35/18 (worn should be replaced)  11.22"w  x  25.85" Tall
 
Question is, it looks like these should fit EXCEPT I am not sure about the 6" offset on the rears with this setup.  I could always go a little skinier on the rear but with the 6" offset I am not sure
 
The fronts sound like they would fit, but tight.  Opinions?  I could probably put the fronts on the rear rims and get skinnier on the fronts, but I want to make sure I am not wasting my money...
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THanks, my concern was especially with the rears and the huge offset.  I was not convinced, but it was a pretty damn good deal. 
I will pass on that deal, thanks for the advice.  Most of my looking has baan in the 15" & 16" range.  Congrats on your wheel deal!
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Hey, I may live in NH, but even I don't walk around carrying a shotgun in the front yard! LOL
So, 15x10 with a 4.5" or 5" offset will fit under our wells without modification?  Good to know.
Looks like I will be sticking with 15x9 or 15x10 for the rears when I finally get there.  The car will be dropped a little and I now believe it will fill out the wells nicely when it's complete.
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Something from a recent email I sent to Crager's tech email:


Both the 17x9 and 17x8 are 0 offset.  The 17x8 is 4.5” and the 17x9 is 5.0”. 

 

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Jeff-

Thank you for the info on that, I just did not want to assume before I order a set of wheels from Summit Racing.

One more question, on the 17" wheels, are any made with a neutral offset?

I am mainly looking for wheels that, for all intense purposes are as an example 17x8, with a true 4" offset, or in the case of the 17x9, a 4.5" offset so the wheel is on the center line of the hub mount surface.

 

Thank you,

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/10/2009 2:23:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, jeffdanbom@cragar.com writes:

If a wheel is called a 15x8, it measures 9" wide, likewise a 15x9 will
measure 10" wide.  The measurement is from bead to bead, which is 1/2"
from the outer lip on both sides.

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Thanks for contacting Cragar!  We'll be getting back to you as soon as
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Hello-
I am looking for the exact specs on the wheel dimensions for
part#345-8912, I need to confirm the actual measurements for this wheel
but do not find anything posted online.
I am looking to see if the overall width is 9", or if that is the width
of the bead area from inside to inside edge.
Thank you
Andrew 

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post a picture of that!
jack it up from the center of the diff, mount the rim and take some pics of just the rim on it.
Some shots with yard stick to show the measurements.
 
THAT would greatly help us all.
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I played with tires and rims today!!!
 
Resizing to post pics...
 
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DAMN IT!!!
Lost a WHOLE POST WITH PICS!!!!
 
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Here you go...
Pumped air shocks all the way up!
 
275/60/15 rear on 15x7 rims, tire is 27.5" tall, fender sits at 29"
225/70/14 front on 14x7 rims, tire is 25.25"tall, fender sits at 26"
 
NOW... added the 295/50/15 tires on the 15x10 rims (3.5" backspacing)
Tire is 26" tall with fender sitting at 28.5"
You can see the tire sticks out and leaves alot of room to the frame.
NOW I dropped all the air out of the shocks to change the rake...
They RUB! Disregard the measurement card. The fender sits almost ON the tire!
 
 
Leave the 295/50/15(15x10rim) on the rear AND put the same on the FRONT!
Pumped the shocks back up for these.
With this combo it rubbed the front and rear of the front fender.
A small adjustment to the backspace would make it clear (MAYBE)
But damn it looks badass! NASCAR/MADMAX style like a bulldog that says DO NOT F**K WITH ME!
Here's the pics of the 295 on the front rubbing and rear clearance
 
Dropped the air pressure out of the shocks with the 295s on front and rear...
WOW THAT HAS A COOL FLAT STANCE!!!
Forgot that pic!!! Angry
 
Here's the PLAY with the rear wheel...
These are with the Airshocks pumped back up all the way.
Turned the rim around so instead of a 3.5" backspace it had 6.5"
With a 1/4" spacer it would bolt up without touching the rim cone to the drum.
With a 1" spacer it would clear everything at the frame and still be tucked inside the fender.
So I THINK a 4"-5" back space would put the tire and rim in the right place.
 
Clearance is TIGHT with the 6.5" backspace...
Wheel is tucked in...
Dropped all the air out of the shocks and it almost looks like it is tubbed...
 
So there are my Tire adventrues for the day!
 
MY decision...
295/50/15 on the back with a 15x10 rim have to decide on the backspace most likely 5" so it sits right inside the fender lip after I roll the lip under and smoothe the sharp edges.
255/60/15 OR 255/70/15 on the front with a 15x8 rim and then play with backspace to fit it in.
Have to put both under the fender and see what looks right, I am thinking the 255/60 is the right one!
 
 
 


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Originally posted by 73 ProStreetTorino 73 ProStreetTorino wrote:

so those are the 15x10's you got from Brent in AZ.No wonder you wanted pics of the rim sticking past with 3.5 back spacing.Wow with the tire they stick out pretty far.Wish you measured from the outside of the tire to the inside of the quarter lip,tuat would tell me how much I need to narrow the rear.I knew I wouldn't have to worry about the frame rails.I believw Gary is running or had 15x10 w/4.5 backspacing & said they clear & no rubbing.not sure on tire size but it's in this thread.I want that deepdish look so i'm gonna narrow the rear so they fit inside.Thanks for the photos that helps.Your gonna have a hard time finding 15x10 slots with 4.5 backspacing.Most did the airshocks & tires sticking out in the 70's.If you don't use those 15x10 3.5 bs slots,do you want to sell them?I tried to get them but Brent had already told you could buy them.
 
 
Yes, they are the rims I got from Brent in AZ.
I am not going to use them, will definately sell them to you. PM Me, I will look through my PM's find out what I paid total with shipping and that is what I'll sell them for plus shipping.
 
I saw the post that someone had 15x10 with the deeper backspace and 295/50/15 as well... REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE PICS!!!
 
I am going to order a cheap set of steel wheels just to use for fit and measurements during the restoration/build.
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Carl, had I known...I have a pair of 15x10 Chrome Aero Racing wheels sitting in the garage, 5" offset.
Brand new in the box!
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Carl-
Here is the pick off Summit Racing's site-
Link to Summit's site http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEO-58-204550/?rtype=10

Direct link to Aero Racing's site: http://www.aeroracewheels.com/wheel_pgs/fifty_eight_series.html 

And for kickers, for the love of Pete someone buy my nascar 15x9.5 wheels. There are Aero Racing's type 59, true, honest to goodness super speedway wheels.
Only thing is, you are going to have to run a 5x5 lincoln bolt pattern. Easy enough to change up front, but rear axle, you are going to need to get axles or redrill your bolt pattern. Oh, did I mention, you will need a 5/8" wheel stud and 1" lug nuts? Wacko


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And for your 295/50r15 pleasure:
And for the record, these wheels will turn lock to lock and not rub with 295's on them. My only issue is I saw the tire seem to get close to my wheel lips, but I have the extreme short coil spring.
I did NOT fit them out back because I can't use as I didn't convert to 5x5 on my axles.

I however have 11x2.5 drums, backing plates off a 77 LTD with the 5x5 bolt pattern, and a pair of usable 1972 mark5? 12" rotors. It would require getting the full size caliper bracket.

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Hey guys,

Came across some pics of my old Starsky LE. I had 15 x 10 ET IV slots with LR60-15 Eagle GT's on the rear with 14 x 6 ET IV's with the OEM BF Goodrich HR78-14's on the front. Kept the air shocks about 90% filled because the wheel lip would touch just enough to cut into the sidewalls. Had I known how at the time, I would have rolled the wheel lips and all would have been fine. Not sure what the back spacing was but they were nice and deep! Here are a few pics.....
 
 
 
 
Hope this was helpful.
 
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Andy,
those 15x10 black racing wheels are what offset? 5 inch?
 
LOVIN THE LOOK OF THOSE 295/50/15 on the front!!!
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Off hand, not 100%. The rims are classed as a 15 x 9.5" rim; I have never checked the offset on the wheels to confirm.
On my GTS...depending on how much tires will end up costing, I may actually put OEM front brakes back on my car and pull the crown vic brakes because I desperately just want to really run a 295/50r15 up front.
I need to debate things. No happy medium here man...LOL
I thankfully have my 1976 Spindles and the 1976 9" that I may just take and redrill the axles and new rotors for a 5x5 bolt pattern with 5/8" wheel studs.
I already have the correct brakes for it, and the wheels.
I will however need to replace my front springs either way because the fronts are too short and I don't want the tires rubbing on the front lips.
Don't know yet.
I have one last option I need to look at before I give up on 295 series tires.

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Think I found my solution.
Carl, sent you a PM.
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Well, bit the bullet.
Got new rollers ordered from Summit Racing.
nitto 255/50R17 front and 275/50R17 out back. Crager 17x9, with help from one of the guys on Ford Muscle.
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