The Official TIRE SIZE THREAD

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   This may be helpful to anyone who may have the same dilemma. 

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gpd294 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19-September-2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Status: Offline Points: 544	Post Options Post Reply Quote gpd294 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01-July-2009 at 3:51PM
	This may be helpful to anyone who may have the same dilemma. http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
	Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15-November-2009 at 6:23PM
	ok i have read the tire and wheel combo's listed but was still wondereing how wide a tire I can put on a 15X10 in wide rim.I plan on using Aluminum slot mags as I want the vintage look but also want the widest tire I can go with on those rims as I sorta want the ProStreet look and going to narrow the axle to make the wheels fit inside of the wheel lip and also widen the wheel well to accomodate the tire width. I'm not sure wether i'm going with a DOT Drag style tire like Mickey Thompson's or a radial tire like BFG's just wondering what is the widest tire that will fit as the aluminum slots are usually 10 in wide on the widest I can find.I did bid on a set of 15X11 slots but the bidding got too high from what I could afford so I lost out,I have some 16.50 wide DOT Drag tires that were given to me but I know they are too wide and would probably need a 12in or wider wheel and they didn't have those in the aluminum slots and I would have to go with a different style wheel if I wanted to use those tires but I like the old vintage aluminum slot look so I'm gonna get a pair of 15X10's for the rear and want to buy the widest tire I can possibly and safely put on them Edited by 73 ProStreetTorino - 15-November-2009 at 6:26PM
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

Torinogts73c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1064	Post Options Post Reply Quote Torinogts73c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15-November-2009 at 6:50PM
	295/50-15 is a good fit and easy to find as well!
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,96 Bronco "Never complain Never explain"

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15-November-2009 at 7:52PM
	well that covers the metric radial size but what about DOT Drag tire size? anybody??
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

Torinogts73c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1064	Post Options Post Reply Quote Torinogts73c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15-November-2009 at 8:44PM
	28x13.50x15 How's that sound?? Try going to http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial that should give you plenty to think about.
	Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,SVT LIGHTNING,07 CHARGER R/T HEMI,96 Bronco "Never complain Never explain"

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15-November-2009 at 10:17PM
	thanks for the info and link wow after looking i think i'm gonna go with Mickey Thompsons as they have a wider selection of tires and widths that are approved on 10 in rims I'm leaning towars the Sportsman S/R series as they are radial tires and more like the BFG's or Cooper Cobra's that alot of people use and think I would get a better ride then the Traditional Sportsman or Sportsman Pro's that look more like drag tires and probably ride like em too,but if i really want the ProStreet look I can go with the Sportsman's.I guess i'll make that decission when it comes time to actually buy tires Edited by 73 ProStreetTorino - 15-November-2009 at 10:53PM
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

crispy23c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote crispy23c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-November-2009 at 4:04AM
	Question: I have a chance on a good deal for a NICE set of torque thrust wheels. Dimensions and offsets are: Front: 18x9 wheels 4" offset 245/40/18 9.65" wide x 25.72 high Rear: 18x10 wheels 6" offset 285/35/18 (worn should be replaced) 11.22"w x 25.85" Tall Question is, it looks like these should fit EXCEPT I am not sure about the 6" offset on the rears with this setup. I could always go a little skinier on the rear but with the 6" offset I am not sure The fronts sound like they would fit, but tight. Opinions? I could probably put the fronts on the rear rims and get skinnier on the fronts, but I want to make sure I am not wasting my money... Thanks! Chris
	Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-November-2009 at 11:23AM
	Chris unless you are getting them for a steal i would pass as the rear tires are worn out and the rims won't fit they are too wide and the offset will make them sit too much to the inside and probably rub the frame or suspension, the front rims would probably work on the rear but the tires would not be my choice as I would want the wider tire llike a 255 or wider. to me these are just the wrong setup for your Torino and you would be better off finding a different set of wheels with rim size and offsets that are more suited for your car
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-November-2009 at 11:30AM
	Well I finally got a pair of 15X10 aluminum slots off ebay and for only $76 plus S&H which is alot cheaper then what they have been going for and I haven't been able to snag a pair till now cause they always end up too high like $300 or higher for 2 rims. nowI will put them with the 15X7's I have for the front and wait till after I have got the 73 GTS from Andy to buy tires as the shipping for Andy's car is gonna cost me but cheaper then going myself up and back.But now I can relax as I finally got the wheels I want
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

crispy23c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote crispy23c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16-November-2009 at 12:28PM
	THanks, my concern was especially with the rears and the huge offset. I was not convinced, but it was a pretty damn good deal. I will pass on that deal, thanks for the advice. Most of my looking has baan in the 15" & 16" range. Congrats on your wheel deal!
	Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-November-2009 at 1:04AM
	Thanks Chris,I just realized your avatar is of Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino I was thinking it was your photo,LOL
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

crispy23c Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote crispy23c Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27-November-2009 at 1:23PM
	Hey, I may live in NH, but even I don't walk around carrying a shotgun in the front yard! So, 15x10 with a 4.5" or 5" offset will fit under our wells without modification? Good to know. Looks like I will be sticking with 15x9 or 15x10 for the rears when I finally get there. The car will be dropped a little and I now believe it will fill out the wells nicely when it's complete.
	Chris P. '73 GTS FastBack 351CJ-4V Triple black "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." - Gen. John Stark

Eliteman76 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21-March-2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 3351	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eliteman76 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29-November-2009 at 1:01AM
	Something from a recent email I sent to Crager's tech email: Both the 17x9 and 17x8 are 0 offset. The 17x8 is 4.5” and the 17x9 is 5.0”. Thanks, Jeff Danbom CRAGAR Industries, Inc. Tel. 877.8CRAGAR (877.827.2427) Fax 877.827.2427 jeffdanbom@cragar.com -----Original Message----- From: Eliteman76 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:25 PM To: jeffdanbom@cragar.com Subject: Re: Cragar.com Contact Autoresponse Jeff- Thank you for the info on that, I just did not want to assume before I order a set of wheels from Summit Racing. One more question, on the 17" wheels, are any made with a neutral offset? I am mainly looking for wheels that, for all intense purposes are as an example 17x8, with a true 4" offset, or in the case of the 17x9, a 4.5" offset so the wheel is on the center line of the hub mount surface. Thank you, Andrew In a message dated 11/10/2009 2:23:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, jeffdanbom@cragar.com writes: If a wheel is called a 15x8, it measures 9" wide, likewise a 15x9 will measure 10" wide. The measurement is from bead to bead, which is 1/2" from the outer lip on both sides. Thanks, Jeff Danbom CRAGAR Industries, Inc. Tel. 877.8CRAGAR (877.827.2427) Fax 877.827.2427 jeffdanbom@cragar.com -----Original Message----- From: Cragar Industries [mailto:contact@cragar.com] Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:40 PM To: Andrew Subject: Cragar.com Contact Autoresponse Thanks for contacting Cragar! We'll be getting back to you as soon as possible. Name: Andrew E-mail: eliteman76@aol.com Subject: Technical Support Body: Hello- I am looking for the exact specs on the wheel dimensions for part#345-8912, I need to confirm the actual measurements for this wheel but do not find anything posted online. I am looking to see if the overall width is 9", or if that is the width of the bead area from inside to inside edge. Thank you Andrew
	Andrew

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27-February-2010 at 6:04PM
	just for info sake I have a set of 15X10 with 3.5 back spacing they are really deep dish compared to the 4-4.5 back spacing.I mounted the rim to measurs how far it sticks past the inside rear lip and it's about 1.5 inches past to the outside edge of the rim,so adding the tire the rear would have to be narrowed to get the tires inside the lip with no rubbing which I planned anyway for my car but those who want it to fit using 15X10 wheels have to go with the larger back spacing so the rim sits closer to the inside.Be sure to know the backspacing when buying wheels,especially used wheels. I wanted my rear wheels deep to the outside and chose the 3.5 backspacing knowing I would be narrowing the rear axle for my wheel/tire combo
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

Regul8r Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Moderator Joined: 27-December-2007 Location: Ft Riley, KS Status: Offline Points: 2982	Post Options Post Reply Quote Regul8r Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27-February-2010 at 6:16PM
	post a picture of that! jack it up from the center of the diff, mount the rim and take some pics of just the rim on it. Some shots with yard stick to show the measurements. THAT would greatly help us all.
	Carl 3 Formalroofs (2x72, 1x73), 72 GTS 90 T-Bird SC, 3.8l SUPERCHARGED 97 Dakota 2WD,Ext cab, 5.2L 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 Thats just my stuff! You should see the wife's "HER STUFF" list!

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27-February-2010 at 7:05PM
	I will when Andy sends me a spare cpu as my computer is down & have no way to post pics as i'm using my phone to access the internet,but when I get a PC i'll do that.
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

Regul8r Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Moderator Joined: 27-December-2007 Location: Ft Riley, KS Status: Offline Points: 2982	Post Options Post Reply Quote Regul8r Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-March-2010 at 4:34AM
	I played with tires and rims today!!! Resizing to post pics...
	Carl 3 Formalroofs (2x72, 1x73), 72 GTS 90 T-Bird SC, 3.8l SUPERCHARGED 97 Dakota 2WD,Ext cab, 5.2L 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 Thats just my stuff! You should see the wife's "HER STUFF" list!

72 GTS 429 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 27-September-2009 Location: Freezing North Status: Offline Points: 3650	Post Options Post Reply Quote 72 GTS 429 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-March-2010 at 4:39AM
	details??what size tires and wheels?
	- Jeff *72 GTS 429* (Nitephire) www.myspace.com/kewlkustompaint

Regul8r Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Moderator Joined: 27-December-2007 Location: Ft Riley, KS Status: Offline Points: 2982	Post Options Post Reply Quote Regul8r Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-March-2010 at 4:55AM
	DAMN IT!!! Lost a WHOLE POST WITH PICS!!!!
	Carl 3 Formalroofs (2x72, 1x73), 72 GTS 90 T-Bird SC, 3.8l SUPERCHARGED 97 Dakota 2WD,Ext cab, 5.2L 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 Thats just my stuff! You should see the wife's "HER STUFF" list!

Regul8r Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Moderator Joined: 27-December-2007 Location: Ft Riley, KS Status: Offline Points: 2982	Post Options Post Reply Quote Regul8r Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-March-2010 at 5:03AM
	Here you go... Pumped air shocks all the way up! 275/60/15 rear on 15x7 rims, tire is 27.5" tall, fender sits at 29" 225/70/14 front on 14x7 rims, tire is 25.25"tall, fender sits at 26" NOW... added the 295/50/15 tires on the 15x10 rims (3.5" backspacing) Tire is 26" tall with fender sitting at 28.5" You can see the tire sticks out and leaves alot of room to the frame. NOW I dropped all the air out of the shocks to change the rake... They RUB! Disregard the measurement card. The fender sits almost ON the tire! Leave the 295/50/15(15x10rim) on the rear AND put the same on the FRONT! Pumped the shocks back up for these. With this combo it rubbed the front and rear of the front fender. A small adjustment to the backspace would make it clear (MAYBE) But damn it looks badass! NASCAR/MADMAX style like a bulldog that says DO NOT F**K WITH ME! Here's the pics of the 295 on the front rubbing and rear clearance Dropped the air pressure out of the shocks with the 295s on front and rear... WOW THAT HAS A COOL FLAT STANCE!!! Forgot that pic!!! Here's the PLAY with the rear wheel... These are with the Airshocks pumped back up all the way. Turned the rim around so instead of a 3.5" backspace it had 6.5" With a 1/4" spacer it would bolt up without touching the rim cone to the drum. With a 1" spacer it would clear everything at the frame and still be tucked inside the fender. So I THINK a 4"-5" back space would put the tire and rim in the right place. Clearance is TIGHT with the 6.5" backspace... Wheel is tucked in... Dropped all the air out of the shocks and it almost looks like it is tubbed... So there are my Tire adventrues for the day! MY decision... 295/50/15 on the back with a 15x10 rim have to decide on the backspace most likely 5" so it sits right inside the fender lip after I roll the lip under and smoothe the sharp edges. 255/60/15 OR 255/70/15 on the front with a 15x8 rim and then play with backspace to fit it in. Have to put both under the fender and see what looks right, I am thinking the 255/60 is the right one! Edited by cowboyupdjcarl - 08-March-2010 at 5:56AM
	Carl 3 Formalroofs (2x72, 1x73), 72 GTS 90 T-Bird SC, 3.8l SUPERCHARGED 97 Dakota 2WD,Ext cab, 5.2L 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 Thats just my stuff! You should see the wife's "HER STUFF" list!