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    Posted: 19-April-2014 at 9:01AM
So I have arrived at the point it is time to put the hood back on the 75 Sport. I have been reasonably successful with putting body parts back on up to this point (fenders, inner fenders, front nose stuff). Only real issue is that the passenger door has a larger gap at the top (to the fender) and it does toward the bottom. I was able to get the lower half fender-to-door gap just enough to open and close the passenger door, but it is close. 

The hood has been a whole other problem. It's not like I have not put hoods on before, but I have never put one on after having had the whole front end completely off. 

Also, when it comes to body work I am no Legend Onirot (self made extraordinaire). 

The back is high. But the hinges are put all the way down. After some work, it is still a little crooked (up front, crooked from right to left) but will shut pretty straight. Also the latch is up all the way, and I can finally latch the hood but the sides sit down low, and if I raise the forward bumpers then the hood in uncloseable. 

I have some photos below. Is my radiator support too low? I did not replace the bushings on it (yes, I know but I was trying not to get into too many side projects, maybe a mistake I don't know), everything else is literally the parts that came off a year and a half ago - no changes just cleaned and some POR-15 on non-viewable inner surfaces. Even if the radiator support is low, it does not seem to explain everything. 

I am going to stop talking for now and let the photos do the remaining discussion:














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that's closer than I ever got my hood... I didn't have any problems with the alignment of the fenders, etc. but that core support is the biggest variable in fender gaps...   
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Were the doors removed from the car? if not, set the fender gaps by adjusting the fenders. Then, start with the basics:
1. measure distance across the front of the hood opening, and the rear. These should be the same.
2. now measure diagonally left rear to right front, right rear to left front. this will establish "squareness of the front clip"
3. measure from the raised "beak" on the header panel to the windshield posts (right and left) Make sure the clip is "Square" on the car.
4.Can you see any marks where the hinges were on the fenders before? Or marks on the hinges from the bolts? Those are usually good reference/starting points.
7. Once the hinges are mounted, attach the hood. Again, marks from the last install will help get you in the ballpark.
8. Get the rear lined up with the fenders, and check the front/side alignment. Don't try adjusting both sides at the same time, and go slowly with adjusting until the side gaps are good.
For where your hood sits now (high in back, low in front), start by raising the hood stops on the front core support. If the front goes down too far, the back pops up.
Make sure all your hood bumpers (little rubber PITAs in the top of the fender) are in place, and consider painter's tape or similar to protect your paint at the edges.
Good Luck, and be patient. As you adjust it, you will start to see a pattern of "cause and effect" and it will work right out.

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I have been screwing with the hinges on my 73 for a while now . I used to know how to do this. and like every thing else , I'm learning how to do again , best not to over tighten any bolt up , after following the above instructions   then snug up the bolts closest to the firewall then open the hood all the way up ,you may need help holding up on the hood , then snug up the front of the hinge , this raising the front of the hinge lowers the back edge of the hood ,   

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yes, what randy said. if you have a large gap at the top side of the fender(s) you may need to shim up the core support, once that it set check squareness of the hood opening, once that is good,work on the hood. is the rear of the hood hitting the rear bumpers? or can you push down on the rear of the hood and it touches and sits right? your hinges may be worn a little and it will pop back up mine did. just moving the hinge straight down may not cure it, sometimes you need to "rotate the hinge" down in the front ,up on the back bolt or vise versa, sounds strange but all the geometry and the spring pulling on it does weird things ( i know i spent a lot of time adjusting mine (old hinges) then fine tune the hood latch, if you are out of adjustment for a bolt hole you may need to file it out a little to gain the needed adjustment, but check everything else first
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in reexamining the above pics, you may need to raise up on the center of the header panel/latch assembly it looks low in the center, which also causes a tight gap at the center ridge of the hood to the header panel. i guess when it comes to "fit & finish" i have a touch of OCD! Big smile
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If the front sucks down too far, the back pops up. I had the whole front apart on my thunderbird when I changed the engine, took forever to get the front sheetmetal right.
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So an update: there is none, I have not had time to work on it.

However I have done some looking and thinking on the matter. I appreciate all the input.

I measured the core support bushing gaps, and matched them up to others that have posted theirs here, and on one side I have 1 3/4", 1 1/4" on the other. One side had an extra thick shim, not sure why.

What I am thinking of doing right now (as opposed to tearing the entire front end off) if to get some shims and maybe just try and jack up the loosened core support a but and shim until I get it right. Tearing all that out right now just seems unnecessary if I can correct it with alternative means. McMaster-Carr had some decent shims, and so I will get some .125 thick and .25 thick shims.
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Scott, I'd say pick up some core support bushings from Summit racing like I did. New shim stock, and done.
Keep in mine too, I had issues and we had to use a ratchet strap and move the whole front end over to the driver side to get things to alight up correctly. I'm a freak about my gaps but I can only rip so much hair off my skull.

I have a wide gap on the back of the hood on the passenger fender. In the long run of things, I just got tot he point of worrying about making sure the hood doesn't pop open on the road :)
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