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    Posted: 20-November-2014 at 2:56AM
hey guys, i am hoping to buy a bronco for a mud toy for rednecks with paychecks....and the one im interested in has a 300i6 5 speed manual tranny 4x4.....if i got it, i would want to swap to a 351w...what would i need? is it just a clean out n' in swap? obviously motor mounts and maybe tranny mounts might be different....but what would i have to change on the motor? fly wheel? im not that experienced in this type of swap. probably not the place to post about a bronco, but i thought you guys could help. thanks.
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i read that it with bolt up, like the belhousing pattern is the same.
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Bell is the same. Flywheels are not (but they WILL bolt onThumbs Down) 351 is 28 oz. external balance, 300 is internally balanced. 351 also uses a flywheel with a 11' clutch as opposed to a 10 or 10.5 for the 300.
Tranny mount doesn't change if you use the same trans, motor mounts will have to change, and I think that the mount perches are different... front accessories are going to need work, new brackets at minimum. All that aside, these are easy trucks to work on, and parts interchange with F150 for the same era. Have fun!
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so what do i need here? balanced flywheel and 11' clutch?
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Best bet is a clutch kit  (flywheel, disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing) for a 351 with that trans
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thanks!

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Just throwing this out there.  Why not get one that already has a 351W?  They are in abundance out there.
If you're still gonna pursue it, find a F150 or Bronco with 351W that you can pull and use.  It will have everything you need to transplant.
 


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i want this one because it has a 6 inch lift, 35in superswampers, another new set of mud grips, alot of new parts, a fastback rag top for the back (plus hard shell), and it runs and drives....800 bucks!.....i wont know until like a week before i could get it.....and if i can find a parts one with a 351, i would use it....but i was told the 300 i6 has more torque than a 302? so i might leave it in for a while until i can find a 351, or just wait til i find a parts one with a manual tranny.
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Ah.  I see.  That sounds like a great deal.  Yes, the 300 I6 is a workhorse.  If it's running good, there's no immediate need to replace it.
I'd love to get a ragtop for our Bronco.  We've got a '96 with a 351W.
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You'll love that 300. Great engines that will always run if they have water, fuel, spark and oil.
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awesome! im wanting to buy it for offroad events and such...i think i might keep the i6 for a while, put in a hei dist, maybe a new carb. but eventually, i will want a 351.....hopefully i get it. ill post pics if i do!

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do they make performance parts for the 300?
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Depends... What year.
300 is a very durable engine with a LOT of low end toruqe
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do they make performance parts for the 300?

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To see the company that sells all of these parts and more Click Here.

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To see another company that sells performance engine parts for the 300 engine Click Here. Some of ther parts for sale are listed below.
Product ID: DUI-300-CIK

DUI Complete Ignition Kit - Big Six

Details:

Save $10 by ordering the complete DUI Ignition Kit, which includes the DUI Distributor, Custom LiveWire set, and Billet Wire Looms. Please designate the cap color and wire color when ordering. see DETAILS for more information.

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DUI-300-CIK

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Product ID: DUI-300-DZY

DUI Performance Distributor - Big Six

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Manufactured by Performance Distributors, the DUI dizzy is the only one-piece, high performance ignition system available for your inline six. Requiring only one 12V hot wire for hookup, it is a clean and simple (drop in) performance modification. See DETAILS for more information.

NOTE: We highly recommend reading our Tech Article on "Preventing Premature Distributor Gear Failures" before you install your new distributor.

DUI Performance Distributor - Big Six

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Black, Blue or Red
 Price: $365.00

DUI-300-DZY

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This 167 Piece - 6 Point Hex Head Bolt Kit is available un-polished or polished (extra), and fits Ford 240/300ci engines. See Details for more information.

NOTE: Always use an anti-sieze lubricant when you install stainless steel bolts or studs. Kit includes one 10 oz tube.

Stainless Steel Bolt Kit

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back in the day they used to cut a cylinder off each Cleveland head & weld them back together as a 6-pop
 
there's a kinda weird 'underground' for aftermarket high perf 4 & 6 parts, heads, blocks, not sure what's out there for the Ford 300?
 
but it's not from the usual sources, definitely off the beaten path


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i used to have that clifford manifold, sold it at a swap meet for $40 Confused
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thanks alot guys!!.....btw its an 82 bronco, and im pretty sure its the original engine.
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Originally posted by Grantorinosport351 Grantorinosport351 wrote:

thanks alot guys!!...btw its an 82 bronco, and im pretty sure its the original engine.
Your Welcome. Yes, some '82 broncos had came from the ford factory originally with the 300 engines installed in them. You might also be able to find some good used aftermarket performance engine parts for it.

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