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MZSCJ 
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 Topic: INFO: Tubular Upper Control ArmsPosted: 01-October-2020 at 2:36AM |
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I think the Hotchkis arms come with shafts, bushings and ball joint.
That could be some of the price difference.
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Big Bird
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Posted: 29-September-2020 at 2:47PM |
 Galaxie a-arm next to a Hotchkis arm (Pic from a thread on the interweb, Grassroots Motorsport)We used to swap in Torino Knee assemblies (upper, lower, and spindle) to add disc brakes to the 65-68 era galaxies. Hotchkis a-arms and lowers should fit just fine in a Torino. Don't know if Hotchkis is using standard balljoints or some goofball balljoint and spindles, because when i saw the price on them i lost interest.
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Posted: 25-September-2020 at 2:28AM |
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Thanks Vince, I recall reading a brake thread years ago, that one will help me. I like brake upgrades, and if the parts aren't bad, I do it if I can.
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Don
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Posted: 24-September-2020 at 3:53PM |
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I doubt those brakes would work. I have all the parts and size and what other cars it interchanges with in this thread:
For those interested, all the suspension parts and what they interchange with are in this thread: |
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Posted: 24-September-2020 at 2:49AM |
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For control arms you have to match the ball joint basically, top and bottom. The spindles are made for certain wheel bearings so obviously only some rotors can work. I hunted for a bigger rotor in the early 80's, and I missed the later 70's choices. I ended up with a 71 Lincoln spindle and rotor, about that 11.75" size, but has a 5x5" bolt circle. I had slot mags back then which have slotted lug nut holes, worked on both ends. But that wasn't a good idea, I'd been looking for a way to undo that since.
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Posted: 23-September-2020 at 3:46PM |
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i just found this too, what's the chance the hubs fit 72 spindles? |
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Posted: 23-September-2020 at 12:44AM |
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Hotchkiss put the arms into production but only list them fitting Galaxies despite the fact the upper arms are the same part number as early1972 Torinos. No one as of yet has tried them to my knowledge. They are very pricey.
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Posted: 22-September-2020 at 11:18PM |
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I thought Hotchkiss made the a arm for a galaxy but never sold it. Littleshop was te only shop I found.
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Posted: 22-September-2020 at 11:06PM |
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Didn’t know they made them. Post a link.
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Posted: 22-September-2020 at 5:12AM |
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Has anyone on this site actually installed the A arms from Hotchkiss?
I need to buy tubular arm for header clearance
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Posted: 26-April-2020 at 11:56PM |
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It shows they are still available on the website:
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Posted: 26-April-2020 at 3:00PM |
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https://www.littleshopmfg.com/contact-us/
i guess they prefer email, now that i'm thinking about it, i did email them about my A arms they were prompt  welcome btw! |
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Posted: 26-April-2020 at 2:56PM |
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call littleshop mfg their info is posted on here somewhere...
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Posted: 26-April-2020 at 1:39PM |
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Are these still available from the shop? I can't find anything anywhere! 2dr 73 gtsq code
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Posted: 10-February-2020 at 1:50PM |
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Obviously haven't tested the uppers and suspension as not done with build, but her is what they look like on my setup......
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Posted: 19-November-2019 at 1:48PM |
You can but the tubular arms here:
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Posted: 17-November-2019 at 1:47PM |
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I would also be very interested. Please keep me in the loop.
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Posted: 14-May-2018 at 5:58AM |
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i was eyeing their site, could not see a ford bolt in ball joint? any chance you gotta part number?
Don't belive you need drop spindles, im usning the cvpi front springs with 3/4 of coil cut and car is just sitting low enough to cover the top of the tire, mind you its a 275 35 19 on a 9.5' rim in the front, stance is really good...
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Posted: 14-May-2018 at 5:51AM |
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I got mine from
http://howeracing.com/ I also figured out a way to use Chrysler lowers in our OEM lower arm to use their extended length lowers. I haven't really decided on what I want to do regarding the geometry changes. I was looking at Fatman drop spindles and using 1/2 to 1" extended uppers. If I stick with stock spindles I was thinking of going +1 extended lower balljoints to lower the car. I got my uppers from howe....I'm not sure if they have anymore in stock. |
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Posted: 14-May-2018 at 5:44AM |
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does anyone know where i could find taller upper ball joint for the littleshop a arms?
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Posted: 23-March-2018 at 6:31AM |
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Still waiting to do mine. Having the GTS on stands the last 6 months has not helped things much :(
Side note, Pure Vision has a few things on the GTS about things they did. One specifically was the strut rod was sleeved with DOM tubing to stiffen it up.
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Posted: 06-February-2018 at 4:51AM |
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Bought a set of the LittleShop A-arms. Excited to get them on the car. I decided not to do the coil over setup and stick with CVPI springs. Thanks for the input. This forum is a wealth of info
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Posted: 05-February-2018 at 1:33AM |
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I did not really pay attention to the mounting point. Thanks very much for pointing that out. I am glad I posted the question before pulling the trigger. That is more work than I want to put into it. I am going to buy the tubular A arms however. Based on the feedback I see in the thread, they look to be an effective upgrade
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Posted: 03-February-2018 at 2:39AM |
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Good pics...I knew the rear was a custom 4 link set up (i believe it was from Art Morrison).
That was helpful for the front lower arm. They boxed the LCA but I didn't realize that the mount was different from teh stock shock style. I have seen that you can buy off-the-shelf mounts and brackets. That may be an option....here is a reference https://www.ballisticfabrication.com/collections/coilover-shock-tabs This looks interesting for the rear... https://www.cachassisworks.com/site_images/58XX/5824-XXX/5824-A10/5824-A10_weld-on_PRKR.jpg All require some welding and modifications to the mounts and arms. |
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Posted: 02-February-2018 at 2:45PM |
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The Pure Vision setup was a little different than this one, but it's nice to see there are more parts on the market for our Torinos. You can see the rear suspension is totally changed, while the front suspension has the lower part of the coilover mounted not using the shock bolt holes. You can see the reinforcement they added and the coilover mounts to that. Here are some pics of the Pure Vision car's suspension:     Edited by 72FordGTS - 02-February-2018 at 2:54PM |
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Posted: 02-February-2018 at 10:19AM |
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Yup...have to reinforce the mounting area. The pure vision torino used stock lower arms; reinforced the mounting area for coil-overs. There are some pics somewhere on the internet where you can see some of the work they did for reference.
yup...your right though...definitely need to strengthen up that lower mount |
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Posted: 02-February-2018 at 10:11AM |
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wow that's kind of scary. That setup puts the entire weight of the vehicle on two little half inch lower shock screws....
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Posted: 02-February-2018 at 7:01AM |
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Very cool....this is the first coil over kit I've seen for the 72+ Torino.
How do they compare with Vari-shok coil overs? |
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Posted: 02-February-2018 at 6:20AM |
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Has anyone used the Viking Crusader front coil over/rear shock set? I have seen these on eBay and they look like they would provide good performance and ride height adjustability. Thoughts?
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Posted: 22-January-2018 at 6:51AM |
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Thanks, it's great to hear some feedback. We were able to get somewhere around 4 or 5 degrees of caster with stock arms, so I am assuming these once could go well beyond that if one desired?
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