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72 RS 351
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Oh sweet, that would be great. You will love that I'm sure, give us more pictures of it and your cars when you have time.
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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
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72FordGTS
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Don, the lift I bought, Direct Lift Pro Park 8+ will lift to 81" under the runways. It's enough room to park a truck under it, if you have the ceiling clearance.
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72 RS 351
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Thanks, that's better. I've many times turned and bumper my forehead into the lift arms. Those are rounded edges, but immovable steel, so they still hurt.
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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
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californiajohnny
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that may be the same lift i got brochures on for alex??? it was comparable to my bendpak at the time, i looked it over really well and spent a bit of time talking to the reps at louiseville then alex later bought that one because of me
fwiw my bendpak goes 6' to the bottom of the lift! read the fine print!!! most are figured to the top of the ramps at 6' not a full 6' underneath!!!! |
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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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72 RS 351
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Excellent, great finish to that plan/project. I could use a lift like that if I find the right house with a detached garage, or could build one with the right height ceilings. I do have a lift now, I bought one in 2006 to help me reconstruct my mail truck that was a roll over. I needed to lift the body off of two trucks, to clip one using parts of both. I had mine installed at my best friend's house, knowing I may never have a place for it, and the cost made the project less than buying a good vehicle at that time. I paid about $2600 I think it was with total installation costs. My truck ended up being around $5500 total, which was better than the near $8k of a comparable truck in great shape. I thought about that kind of lift back then, but my current garage has just 10" 8" ceilings, not quite enough for two cars I figured(plus the garage doors are typical 7' maybe). Enjoy that lift, it's much better to work on a car when it's at an ideal height. Watch your head if you aren't a short guy. Do any current lifts get the car above 6' high, ideally 6' 6" maybe? I was disappointed to find them all way short back then, I'm 6' 1" now and you always hit your head once in a while, they are all too low.
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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000+ rpm 351-4V &4R70W 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
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72FordGTS
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I finally got a 4-post lift, only a year later than I originally planned. I looked at the Bendpak, and really liked them, but ended up not getting one. The prices had skyrocketed on them, and the one I was looking at was almost $2000 more than when I first looked at one. And from talking to some guys in the lift industry, apparently the local support is not very good.
i ended up getting a Direct Lift Pro Park 8+, which was more reasonably priced and is also ALI certified. It has mechanical locks instead of air locks but I am okay with that. The pump also runs on 110 instead of 220. I didn't realize the Direct Lift is the consumer grade brand for Rotary, which is the lift brand we used back in when I worked in the shops. In any case I picked it up and got it built and I am very happy with it. It comes with most accessories like the casters, drip trays, and tool/bottle jack tray. I also got the sliding bridge jack too for a little extra cost. So far it's great, I'd recommend one to others. Here's the lifts on the trailer after being loaded. My buddy bought a used two-post 12,000 forward lift (the blue one). Once I got it unloaded, a friend and I had it built in half a day. |
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stanman
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I have 10 foot walls but used trusses that raise up 2 feet inside the garage giving me 12 foot ceilings.
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lynchster
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I was debating on a lift but I'm limited to 10' walls. |
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Chuck
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lynchster
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No doubt! |
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Chuck
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Rockatansky
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merge & clean-up |
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72FordGTS
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Thanks guys, you're definitely convincing me to go for the lift this year. As long as I can get my car back together sometime soon, I should be able to do it as late spring/early summer purchase.
As for the blast cabinets, I just bought a 40 lb one too. I will start a new thread on those in this section.
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Vince
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67gt5003119
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^^^amen brotha^^^ Can't live without mine
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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
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hogfiddles
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Im just gonna do it as I go along. Currently, I use a little homemade set up like this with my little pancake compressor.
http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/soda-blaster.html I'll run it into the cabinet just to keep Soda from blowing everywhere. As I get my bigger compressor hooked up, I'll be able to do more. It's a project that will grow over time. Edited by hogfiddles - 30-March-2019 at 11:45AM |
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Rockatansky
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what's the secret tip? any mods to the junk that comes in the box from HF to shoot soda? |
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hogfiddles
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My plan is to seal it as per other forums suggested.....and it's primary use will be soda-blasting
Dave |
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Rockatansky
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i say new thread for blasting cabinets!? i have 1 still in the box, been thinking about just grabbing the dust separator rather than build a home brew. also considering using rtv to seal the box ... maybe soda blast? |
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hogfiddles
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A 4-post lift is in my long-term wish-list. But at least I was able to get a 40lb blasting cabinet yesterday. Now I just gotta make room for it, then assemble it.
Edited by hogfiddles - 30-March-2019 at 8:21AM |
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1973 Gran Torino Sport - Q code “Q-Clone” project-on-hold
1972 Gran Torino Sport - Q code new project 1972 Gran Torino - parts 1969 Torino GT - M code 95+/- mid-80's Yamaha XJ-Series (10 trophies) |
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72FordGTS
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Haha, very true. And then again, with your past history and luck, it's probably a good idea you sold it!
All our 4 posts we had in the shop had dual bridge jacks, front and rear. It made working on one not too bad, but I still liked the more openness of a two post hosts. Most of the techs at our shop preferred 2 post hoists, except the front end guys who had alignment lifts. Then again, it seems brakes and suspension were the most common jobs and we did do a lot of FWD cars with blown motors and transmissions. You do make a good point about low cars on the lifts. Corvettes often went on 4 post lifts, and a couple of times when we had vintage cars, like a '58 Chevy with an "X" frame, we used the four posts just to be safe. Do you have a pic of your setup John for the bottle jacks? If I buy this lift this year I definitely won't be able to afford the bridge jack (I will get on in the future though). So in the mean time, I may have to do a setup like that. |
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californiajohnny
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yeah 2 posts are good for front wheel drive tranny work, i prefer the 4 post, great for having a low car...you can see how low it sits for exhaust and things as its on the ramps, plus you can lay tools on the ramps as your working on it if you don't want to spend the $$$ extra for rolling jacks you can buy some 2 x 6 1/8" wall square tubing to lay in across the ramps and use bottle jacks on that to lift a vehicle for suspension work while up on the lift! i do it all the time
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JOHN
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unlovedford
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I don't think they yell "Timber" as they drop a vehicle on your head.
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Joe
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unlovedford
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I know the 2 post lifts are safe, but it wigs me out to think about working on a car with a 429 Squire wagon perched above me on just 2 pieces of steel.
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Joe
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72FordGTS
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That's a ton of great equipment Joe! I'd love a two post hoist, I much prefer them for maintenance work. But I want to use the lift for storage and I don't want to take a chance and drill into my slab for fear of hitting a heating line. Two posts are definitely a little more tricky, especially with trucks. I worked in a shop when I was young and I was pretty good at all types of hoists with all types of vehicles. There were was one incident of a trucks falling off hoist a hoist by a careless operator. My brother in law has a 2 post in his shop, but he lives pretty far away, so I have only used it a few times when visiting.
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unlovedford
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I have a BendPak 15K pound 4 post lift. Bought it along with a 2 post lift, body rotisserie, body stand, frame straightening tools, and everything else in a guy's shop a few years ago. Took it down there and transported it to my house, but have not assembled it here yet. I was afraid of the 2 post (with my luck) so I sold it. I've seen that 4 post do some amazing things.
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Joe
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72FordGTS
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Great ideas on the wiring guys. I like the idea of having a plug so I can use the 220 outlet for something else. I will have to figure out if I need to run any conduit once I get it in the garage.
And Rock, Bendpak says that there is no need to bolt and of the HD-9 series lifts. It seems the majority of installs I saw when researching were left unbolted.
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californiajohnny
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yeah you could use heavy insulated wire like an extension cord with a plug. i just hard wired mine along the wall with flex conduit to my 220 a/c plug on the wall
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JOHN
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You would Have to supply your own power cord, hyd fluid. I hard wired mine at the box on the lift and made an extension with dryer plug to my 220 outlet. This made things easy because when i am not using the lift i can unplug it and coil it around the pump to keep things neat. I am not using the concrete fasteners on mine either. The long runners are the heaviest part, about 250lbs each. I would recommend upping for the aluminum ramps. Easier to handle.
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does the BendPak HD-9XW not require anchor bolts into the slab? can you use a good stud finder to find your heat lines? i'd hard pipe the elec supply to the ceiling and over to a box near the outlet and have a short jumper whip from the box so you can still use the outlet for a welder. 220 (or 221) is something you don't want to accidentally rip into
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72FordGTS
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Thanks guys, sounds like your experience are pretty good, much as I have read elsewhere. When you say the ramps are heavy, you mean the little ramps your drive up on the lift with, or the long runways the car actually parks on? Do they usually come with any wiring at all to hook up power or do I have to supply everything myself? I have a 220 outlet near where I want to install it, and was hoping just to run a cable with a plug at the end.
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californiajohnny
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when i bought mine it came by truck, i had the driver pull up in the street, backed a flat bed tow truck up to the trailer and run the bed back another foot till it touched the trailer and winched the lift package onto the tow truck then backed the tow truck up to the garage door tilted the bed down and slid out from under the lift and assembled it! only items extra needed are wiring to the lift and air supply to it for the safety lock release oh and 5 gals of 10W hydraulic fluid which can be bought at your local auto parts store i assembled it by myself! only difficult part would be lifting the 2 ramps up onto it (i have that overhead trolley crane above it, so it was easy for me )
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