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    Posted: 07-November-2020 at 12:18PM
They fit perfect, had to find my original brackets before I knew for sure. Installed them today
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Originally posted by texanrebel texanrebel wrote:

FYI - I came across this sway bar bushing from Inline Tube part # INL13148. It's listed for a GM 1-1/8" bar. I ordered out of curiosity and it seems to be a perfect fit for my 72 with competition suspension using the factory brackets. I have not installed it yet, but looks like a good substitute.




If those will fit the frame mounting bracket, they will work.

I still have the 1.25" front bar I bought for mine. When I get my 2nd one to sell closer next year, I might choose to not use this, and let someone else buy it. I think any big Ford intended for great handling needs a much bigger bar than the factory, best they made size.
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FYI - I came across this sway bar bushing from Inline Tube part # INL13148. It's listed for a GM 1-1/8" bar. I ordered out of curiosity and it seems to be a perfect fit for my 72 with competition suspension using the factory brackets. I have not installed it yet, but looks like a good substitute.


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For the rear suspension, poly is all you can find anymore for the upper control arms.  Most of the replacement rubber bushings are no longer available, unless you find some old stock.  The rubber lower bushings are not adjustable for pinion angle like the OEM bushings.  The poly does stiffen up the rear end quite a bit, but it also keeps the rear axle well planted, eliminates any lateral play, and usually gets rid of wheel hop issues.  You can still get rubber for the front suspension but poly is also available.  As for the poly kits, I used Energy (black) on my car, no complainants at all.  I also used Moog and Spicer for all my front end components.  All were good quality, but probably more money than buying a PST kit.
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i have poly in my car and most all my other cars, easier to replace and last longer impervious to gas and oilWink
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Wow, great information, love and appreciate the legwork. I found Moog online as well as Energy suspension parts which carries a complete polyurethane kit. ESP does mention that poly is a stiffer ride and more road noise. I love the idea of a kit though. Has anyone used the ESP or poly kits? Is Moog the way to go? I haven't seen a kit yet. If I order the prescription in this thread, it should replace all the rubber in my suspension?
Thanks for spoon feeding me.
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I did the same. Started with a hole-saw to loosen the rubber. Heated them with a torch and then sandblasted the sleeves. Inserted the poly bushings.
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I hope that's a Yes cuz I just pulled the trigger on these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181308663596?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

with my small brackets & 75 spindles I can run $30 rotors    

with the big brackets & 72 spindles I can run $120 rotors

so far I like this deal, Blueoval wants $220 for just the big brackets




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On a 1972 torino, a 1975 spindle will allow use of any big bearing rotor. (5x4.5 bolt pattern 10.7 rotors OR 5x5 bolt pattern 11.8 rotors)
spindles are the same as follows - 1973 up to 1978 in fullsize ford, 1973 to 1979 intermediate. (Reportedly SOME early 1973 models may use the earlier spindles/bearings)
caliper brackets from 1972-1976 Thunderbird/Mark IV, 1977-79 Mark V with 4 wheel disc, or 1973-1978 fullsize will bolt on and allow use of big rotors. If you use 1972 spindles, you can use 1972 thunderbird rotors and have a 5x4.5 bolt pattern.
1975 LTD caliper brackets will allow use of 1972 torino spindles with 1972 thunderbird rotors. (as would 1972 thunderbird caliper brackets)
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clarify please;

1975 LTD spindles on a 72 Torino will use 74+ Torino 10.7" rotors

1975 LTD caliper brackets on 1972 Torino spindles will use 1972 T-bird 11.8" rotors
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You probably could. We used to get the whole assembly and swap it. when we were doing this, torinos were fairly new and usually had good ball joints, bushings, etc. This kept all the parts single source for replacement down the road, and the ball joints LOOKED different so...
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Why would you have to change the control arms? The spindles should swap over with the stock LTD arms. The upper arms are identical to the early 1972 cars. And the ball joints are the same.
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The entire "knee assembly" swaps over for a disc brake conversion. Use torino upper control arm, lower control arm, shafts, and spindles. You MAY have to change your outer tie rod end. Swap in a disc master cylinder as well.
Not sure anymore about radius rods, I would check them for fit and condition. They like to rot in their bushings.

Edited by Big Bird - 20-February-2014 at 11:15AM
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use the 74+ spindle & you can have slotted rotors for less than 1) 72 T-bird stocker shipped

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This is great info for me because we're going to replace the drum setup on our 67 LTD with Torino discs. It appears that a lot of it will be bolt on. Thanks guys.
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I saw a post that stated the control arms dated back into the mid 60's on full size, maybe it was just Energy Suspension that is discontinuing the early bushings?

can't remember where I rolled across that

I found a pair of caliper brackets for $100 each side with back shields...
$220 delivered and about the same for the rotors is a little rich for me today
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Just a note for the differences in the 1972 Control arms. The early design was the same parts used on the 1965+ fullsize Fords. The shaft is also different depending on the bushing size. These weren't 1972 only parts, as the fullsize cars used them for many years previous. The same goes for the bolt on ball joints. The older fullsize cars also used this style of joint at times.

The 1972 parts aren't as rare as they first may seem.
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Police and Mark V
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Were those police applications on the 77+ mid-size?
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The 77+ 11.8 caliper bracket is the same as the fullsize 11.8 bracket. The spindles 73-79 are the same as 73-78 fullsize. The calipers and pads are the same regardless if diameter.
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you're right, looked at many 11.8 rotors & they're all 5x5

what I was asking is about the caliper brackets from 77+ vehicles that use 11.8 rotors

I'm not getting bitten by a multitude of caliper brackets available anywhere
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I am not sure about 77+ 11.8" rotors. I have heard about them, but have never seen them in person. I am also not sure that any 11.8" rotor on a mid-size would come with anything other than 5x5 bolt pattern from the factory (and I would envision this, if it exists, would be a police package thing?)
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so the 74+ spindles don't get me large rotors because they're all 5x5, but they do get me cheap 10.7" rotors with my same caliper brackets
& slot vent rotors are an option and cheaper than 72 T-bird stock rotors. chit the 72 10.7" slot & vent rotors are cheaper than the stock 72 T-bird rotors

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

looks like another idea / project on hold-lock until winter blinks & I can bust all my components down & see what I actually have out there. both cars everything came from were 72's but at this late date anything can be possible

72 T-bird rotors & caliper brackets from 72-76 full size... why not 77+ with 11.8 rotors?
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You can use your 72 spindles with the 72 wheel bearings, get 72 T-bird rotors and a caliper bracket from any 72-76 full size. Brake pads are the same.

That is a winning combination for larger front brakes with all factory parts. You get 1" larger rotor, and maintain your 5x4.5 wheel bolt pattern.
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I love 1972 parts!

I just got to thinkin that I'd like to upgrade my 72 spindles to use 74+ rotors, then I started thinkin caliper brackets for the larger diameter rotors, now we're all the way up to the shafts being different.... maybe???

what year / body would I look for to upgrade to regular parts with no mismatch confusion involved?

are the 1972 std diameter rotors a 1 trick pony? no other applications any other years?

figures I have 2 complete sets of probably all 1972 crap, needs to be checked out I guess but I'd rather start fresh with known popular & easy to find stuff. easy bushings & big brakes please

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Learned something new today that I thought I should pass along...
 
Months ago I picked up my suspension parts from the machine shop, he blasted them clean and installed all the new bushings for me. There was a problem with the upper control arm and bushings.
He installed the bushings with the shafts on the UCAs... the nut will not tighten down. Seems like the shaft all of a sudden shrunk?
Well that is true to a point!
The shaft did not shrink, but Ford lengthened the shaft March 15th 1972 to accomodate a longer bushing.
 
March 14th and before the bushing is 1.51" long
March 15th and after the bushing is 1.82" long
THAT explains why the bushing is not letting the nut tighten down.
So the UCAs that I used from the 72 Montego must have been built before March 14th.
So I have to go buy the right bushings.
 
I also ran into differences between the Center Link and the Inner Tie Rod End between the 72 Gran Torino and the 76 Elite. So I have to buy a couple new/different parts to totally rebuild the front end on LolaMae.
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Ok I almost give up how do you get the core support bushing out? The nut is off and the bolt just spins. Does the metal sleve have threads? Burn it out pound it out?
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Just bought a new TRW branded DS-822 off evilbay. We'll see what I get. It *apparently* is correct.

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