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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BackInBlack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-June-2017 at 11:55PM
Yup...already bought the CVPI springs sitting with my pile of suspension parts waiting for install.  I'll take you advice...try it out first then decide.  I'm holding off finishing the suspension until I'm done painting the car.   

Sorry to derail the thread...back to A-arms.   If anyone buys those Hotchkis A-arms; would like to hear what you think of them...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nuggets Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2017 at 2:22PM
If they're still available once I get my payslip I might take the risk
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote russosborne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2017 at 6:07PM
I would think that Hotchkis Galaxy parts bolted on and worked on our cars that they would advertise them as such. Would really increase their sales I'd imagine.
Hoping to be proved wrong, but I can't be the one to finance the experiment though.
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Originally posted by Nuggets Nuggets wrote:

The lack of available brake upgrades needs to be sorted first, I'm looking at making brackets up for AP solid callipers onto the stock upright, hopefully, they can just be laser cut in pieces and welded together.....if not I may have to look at machining something on the mill, but that would be the single biggest improvement for these cars IMO 

I have Porsche cayenne 6 pistons up front on a massive (14" I think) rotor. The pads are off the shelf, the rotor is off the shelf, and the caliper is off the shelf. The only thing needed to be made was the bracket. It's all water jetted and welded 4130 steel. I even have rev 2 ready to crank out if I ever feel like it. I have the entire unsprung into CAD but it's buried deep in the depths of my hard drive somewhere at this point. The 6 pots stop like a race car. They can outperform my driving skill by a long shot. I could crank out a few sets of brackets but they would cost $600 a set for just the brackets and hardware. Custom low volume things are expensive especially when engineering time is involved. If I felt like my car needed those upper arms I would pay the $600 in a heartbeat.  What my car needs is someone with time to keep testing and tuning it which I have none of right now. After that, it needs a better driver. 

I think LittleShop did us a huge favor trying to make a few sets to sell at any price.
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Question for those who've used these or know something about this.
I'm quoting from Little Shop's instructions
"Please note that there are 2 different lengths on the factory cross-shafts for these cars. The shorter cross-shaft (72 and
early 73) will leave a small amount of thread unused in the end of the nut. It is preferable to use the longer cross-shafts
if possible."

Would using the longer cross shaft on a 72 cause any issues? Would using the stock 72 shaft cause any issues?

Not sure why I am asking, but since I am working again I can't get these arms off of my mind. Might make a good Christmas present. Wink

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Both cross shafts will bolt to the chassis. The lengths are different for some reason. I don't remember why or in what way. When I switched my pre 73 arms out for later ones I remember the bushing being easier to install with the longer shafts but that's all.
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I did not get any directions with my arms, and I have a 73. I did not notice anything special about using the 73 shafts, they worked fine.
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IIRC the 72 shafts are shorter and don't leave enough exposed threads for the nuts?
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Just a quick note here... since I am selling the Ranchero, I swapped the little shop arms over to my Torino and then aligned the car. They weren't kidding...those arms gave me 5-6 degrees of caster. I do a lot of highway driving back and forth to work, so more caster is very welcome. I must say, the car feels much more stable at 70-80 mph, and the biggest difference is it no longer twitches to one side or the other over bumps at speed. 
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Nice to hear some good feedback on the arms.   
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Thanks, it's great to hear some feedback.  We were able to get somewhere around 4 or 5 degrees of caster with stock arms, so I am assuming these once could go well beyond that if one desired?
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Has anyone used the Viking Crusader front coil over/rear shock set?  I have seen these on eBay and they look like they would provide good performance and ride height adjustability.  Thoughts?
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Very cool....this is the first coil over kit I've seen for the 72+ Torino.

How do they compare with Vari-shok coil overs?
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wow that's kind of scary. That setup puts the entire weight of the vehicle on two little half inch lower shock screws....
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Yup...have to reinforce the mounting area.   The pure vision torino used stock lower arms; reinforced the mounting area for coil-overs.   There are some pics somewhere on the internet where you can see some of the work they did for reference.     

yup...your right though...definitely need to strengthen up that lower mount
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The Pure Vision setup was a little different than this one, but it's nice to see there are more parts on the market for our Torinos.  You can see the rear suspension is totally changed, while the front suspension has the lower part of the coilover mounted not using the shock bolt holes.  You can see the reinforcement they added and the coilover mounts to that.
 
Here are some pics of the Pure Vision car's suspension:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Good pics...I knew the rear was a custom 4 link set up (i believe it was from Art Morrison).

That was helpful for the front lower arm.  They boxed the LCA but I didn't realize that the mount was different from teh stock shock style.   I have seen that you can buy off-the-shelf mounts and brackets.  That may be an option....here is a reference
https://www.ballisticfabrication.com/collections/coilover-shock-tabs

This looks interesting for the rear...
https://www.cachassisworks.com/site_images/58XX/5824-XXX/5824-A10/5824-A10_weld-on_PRKR.jpg

All require some welding and modifications to the mounts and arms.
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I did not really pay attention to the mounting point.  Thanks very much for pointing that out.  I am glad I posted the question before pulling the trigger.  That is more work than I want to put into it.  I am going to buy the tubular A arms however.  Based on the feedback I see in the thread, they look to be an effective upgrade
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Bought a set of the LittleShop A-arms.  Excited to get them on the car.  I decided not to do the coil over setup and stick with CVPI springs.  Thanks for the input.  This forum is a wealth of info
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