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    Posted: 31-July-2017 at 1:51PM
Looking to upgrade '72 GTS from bench to bucket seats. Looking for something comfortable that may also look somewhat stock to the untrained eye. What have you done? Are the stock '72 buckets comfortable if I take them to a good upholstery shop? How about a later model seat? Or is there an aftermarket modern seat that doesn't look too "modern". Your thoughts please!  
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Right now, I'm putting 2010 Mustang seats in my 73. The new Mustang seats are made to look old school, but also have 6 way power and seat heaters (if you need them). 
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77-79 Tbird, Cougar, and LTD II bucket seats aren't too hard to find, and bolt right in.  Not sure on comfort though.  If you're looking for something very comfortable, then you probably want something more modern.
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I went with a hi-back bucket seat made by pro-car. I mounted the factory tracks on the pro car seat so the seat would go all the way back, almost touching the rear seat. Now I have plenty of leg room. I think I bought them from summit racing

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Originally posted by 72GTS351CJ 72GTS351CJ wrote:

I went with a hi-back bucket seat made by pro-car. I mounted the factory tracks on the pro car seat so the seat would go all the way back, almost touching the rear seat. Now I have plenty of leg room. I think I bought them from summit racing
 
 
Joe (unlovedford) has pro-car buckets in his '72, Bruiser, with the rear seat covered to match.  They look great.  Maybe he'll chime in on the comfort aspect.
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I put 73 Torino buckets in my 79 T-bird. They are reasonably comfortable, but I would like them better if they had a tilt-able back like a newer car.
if you get another set of seat tracks, you can shorten the crosswire and use that as well as your original set to mount the buckets. I don't know about the older cars, but almost every 77-79 I have seen has the captured nuts already installed on the seat cross-support under the carpet.
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Very comfortable in my opinion. They recline back and give good support
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Thank you for the pictures. This really shows the Procar solution. Looks very tempting!!

They look comfortable and supportive.
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Would you be interested in selling the old bench?
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If and when I make the swap, I'll probably keep the seat with the car, but thanks for the thought!
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So my bench is beaten down on the driver's side such that on the left side it's almost like sitting on the floor, but on the right side it's normal. After much time in the car, I know exactly what that will do to my back. So I was thinking of upgrading to buckets. I have the bench that has an armrest that can lower in the middle but is one piece on the bottom across the whole way. What can I do without welding?

Mac's Auto Parts shows some buckets that say they'll fit, but require a particular bracket. For 1971-74 Torino it shows one part number, and for 1971-74 Ranchero (OEM bench to bucket conversion) there's a different number, with another different one for 1971-74 Ranchero with OEM buckets. For my station wagon, would I want to get the 1971-74 Torino bracket, or the Ranchero bracket (OEM bench to bucket conversion)?

Or could I do something like the 2005 Mustang seats without having to weld anything? The website for one of my local junkyards shows black cloth manual 2008 Mustang buckets ("call for price" of course). If I could get those in without having to do metalwork that's out of my league, instead of waiting of however long it would take to send me brand new buckets from the manufacturer, there's some value in that.
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have you had a look at the springs under the bench yet?

do you have a link to these conversion brackets?
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I haven't pulled the bench out yet or looked under it, but given the way that side feels like it's on the floor, and how the seat material is a bit split at one of the seams but otherwise is in good shape, so the foam isn't all missing, I think it's a spring issue.

The link to the seat is here:
It has the list of which bracket to use. I searched the part numbers there and found them at Mac's for $120, but no picture.
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Easiest way is to use factory brackets. Good news is you're halfway there. Bench and buckets use the same brackets/sliders. Just the release wire is longer on a bench, and can be cut. The floor in a 72-79 already has the brace that supports both seats. Early cars may need the J-nuts installed on the inner holes, later cars usually have them already installed.
Find another bench seat car and pirate it's sliders/brackets. Trim the slider pull wire with the sliders installed in the car. center up your new seats on the sliders and work out new mounting holes as needed.
Mac's is screwed up. All years 72-79 use the same floor pan/seat mount scheme. They were better before getting captured by Dearborn Classics...
Only seat tracks that are different are for power seats. This includes 72-76 Thunderbird and Mark IV.


Edited by Big Bird - 25-November-2021 at 1:49PM
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The problem with the above plan is finding another bench seat car.

I've seen some posts here about using newer Mustang seats. One of my local junkyards shows 2008 and 2012 Mustang seats available. What exactly would I have to do to install one of those sets in a Gran Torino?
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Ping hogfiddles. He may sell a set to you.
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Originally posted by fordismyboss fordismyboss wrote:

Looking to upgrade '72 GTS from bench to bucket seats. Looking for something comfortable that may also look somewhat stock to the untrained eye. What have you done? Are the stock '72 buckets comfortable if I take them to a good upholstery shop? How about a later model seat? Or is there an aftermarket modern seat that doesn't look too "modern". Your thoughts please!  

Have you heard of ProCar Seats by Scat Enterprises ( Same company as SCAT Cranks ) 

Procar by SCAT - I recommend it greatly. Vintage look, Vintage design. Not huge in the market yet, so you can get a good affordable deal.
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Originally posted by Inkara1 Inkara1 wrote:

The problem with the above plan is finding another bench seat car.

I've seen some posts here about using newer Mustang seats. One of my local junkyards shows 2008 and 2012 Mustang seats available. What exactly would I have to do to install one of those sets in a Gran Torino?
People's Republic of California has no Torinos left?
I recommend "Tar and Feathers" for all your politicians. Then run them out of town on a rail.
(Actually, I recommend that for ALL politicians. Most celebrities too.)
Shouldn't be too hard to adapt. Torino had a level/square mounting for the seats. Center the seats, and measure to the mount points. If all 4 holes on your new seats land on the seat support, you could add new holes and move the J-bolts.
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Originally posted by Inkara1 Inkara1 wrote:

The problem with the above plan is finding another bench seat car.

I've seen some posts here about using newer Mustang seats. One of my local junkyards shows 2008 and 2012 Mustang seats available. What exactly would I have to do to install one of those sets in a Gran Torino?


I removed the original bench seat. The holes for the bucket seats are in the floor already so all you need are the bolts. I found a set of 6 way power seats from a 2014 Mustang GT in tan/tobacco color, and cut the factory brackets off the tracks. Then made metal flanges with mounting holes that match the floor locations of the Torino bucket seats, and had them welded on. Have the drawings for the flanges if desired. 


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Look at Rockatansky's pictures above. He is still using the factory mount points, but if your desired seats sit on those raised braces, you can drill holes and relocate the J-nut clips to fit. Or bolt your seats/tracks to angle iron and drill thru both if they don't land on the braces.
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Do you happen to still have your bench seat? I’m looking to buy a bench, if anyone has one for sale let me know. I’m located in Southern California. 
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LOL, my bench went as fast as i could get rid of it. It looked (and smelled) like a pack of Baboons were living on it.
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