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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 4:20PM |
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Thanks, so no acorn style then?
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 5:30PM |
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You will also have to find out how long the shanks have to be on the lug nuts. And you will probably have to find out what shank size width that you will need.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 5:32PM |
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Some shank style lug nuts have washers with an offset hole in them, this is to center the wheel onto the lug nuts.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 5:38PM |
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Some shank style lug nuts use washers with a centered hole in the middle. Like in the picture below. The washers are used to keep the wheel centered while you are tightening the lug nuts.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 7:09PM |
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There should be small bumps or a small tab(s) in the lug nut holes on the wheels. These bumps and/or tab(s) are supposed to center the offset washer holes on to the lug(s) as you tighten them up.
Sometimes when people use an air powered impact wrench to install the unilug wheels, these bumps or tab(s) can become stripped or flattened and it can make the wheel unsafe. Because the bumps or tabs will no longer keep the offset washers properly centered/lined up on the lugs. You should probably check those areas on the wheels that you had just purchased. Many of the offset washers have a small bump(s) or tab(s) that will seat against the small bumps or tabs on the wheels, when you tighten the shank lug nuts. I have heard that the washers can sometimes be damaged also, if an impact wrench is used. Many people suggest that you only torque/tighten the unilug lugnuts by hand using a tire iron/wrench, or a lug nut wrench (not an air powered impact wrench).
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 7:14PM |
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Below is a picture of the bumps inside the of lug nut holes on the wheels (your wheels might be different though). As you hand tighten the shank lug nuts, the bump(s) or tab(s) on the offset washers, will come to a stop and seat themselves on the bumps or tab(s) inside of the wheel lug nut hole, and it will center the wheel onto the lugs.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 7:18PM |
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When you put a wheel into your car's lug nuts, it should look like the picture below.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 7:36PM |
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When you install the "offset hole" washers, the washers will stop on the bumps or tab(s) while you are hand-tightening the shank lug nuts. The washers should be in the same position as in the picture below.
Unless you have a different type of unilug wheels, which might use the "Centered Hole" washers. Maybe one of the other members can give you more information on that type. ![]() Edited by dave302 - 06-September-2014 at 7:38PM |
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 8:47PM |
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You will have to measure the width of the lug nut holes on your wheels, so you will know which lug nut size that you need.
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Posted: 06-September-2014 at 8:57PM |
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You will also need to measure the depth of the lug nut holes on your wheels. So you can get the correct length shank lug nuts. Also notice the shank inside depth of the lug nuts in the picture below, so these conditions don't occur:
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 2:10AM |
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You should also measure how long your lugs are at the front brake rotors (or front brake drums), and you should probably measure how long the lugs are at the rear brake drums. It might be better to measure them with the wheels off of the car.
This will help you figure out what size shank lug nuts that you need to get. If you cannot find them, then you can post all of the measurements here. And i will try to find them. It will probably be good if you also measure the size of the recesses/indentations in the wheel where the washers go into. This will help you choose the correct size of the outer diameter of the washers. |
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 2:13AM |
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So then, the washers must fit inside the milled recesses?
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 2:39AM |
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You can see from the picture that they are not oblong or oval shaped or circular. So do I have to find washers to fit those exact wholes or could I use a circular ones that fit the slots?
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 3:08AM |
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I believe that the washers will have to be round on the outside (the outer diameter) and i believe that the hole in the middle needs to be off-centered, like in the picture below. These should be relatively easy to find though. ![]() Edited by dave302 - 07-September-2014 at 3:21AM |
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 3:12AM |
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Here is a picture of weaverT1971's wheel below.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 3:26AM |
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Yep, perfect I should be g2g then I think I have them.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 3:29AM |
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That is good news.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 3:40AM |
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Is there any brand name or part numbers on your wheels? they might be on the back of the wheels.
I ask you this because it might be easier to find out which lug nuts you need, if you find the brand name and part numbers.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 6:39AM |
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no name just a patent number....that goes back to the old ET wheels.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 6:57AM |
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those wheels should have the oval shaped washers with the hole either offset or centered as neededthe round washers won't support the lug nut completely, possibly damage the wheels & come loose
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 10:10AM |
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DO NOT use round washers on wheels with the oblong recesses. Bad things WILL happen. Only use the oval/oblong wheels with those wheels.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 12:19PM |
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So, are you gonna leave these new wheels on the '71, when you trade it for a '72? Or, keep them for the '72? Seems like a lot of trouble if you're gonna include them with the trade.
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Posted: 07-September-2014 at 12:27PM |
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Well I thought I got a pretty good deal for the wheels so either way I couldn't go wrong with getting them. And it doesn't seem like I'll be finding a 72 anytime soon anyways.
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Well.....I got the wheels and tires.....and the correct lugs and the washers.....BUT the 275's are to wide. they wont clear the fender wall, I mean seriously these would barley fit inside the wheel well. Now I'm really confused because I looked on here and found posts of guys throwing these on their cars with no issues at all. I guess I must've not measured the back spacing correctly...it seems if the rims were deeper they would work but.....So what are my options at this point to get these to fit on my car? Leaf blocks, air shocks? http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/torino-pages/424920-largest-wheel-tire-size-combination-72-gran-torino-sport-fastback.html
IN this thread it talks about putting 275'son with no issues.
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The 72 and up torino is an entirely different car than your 1971... 1971 is a unibody derivative of the old Fairlane chassis, 72 up is a full-frame derivative of the 1965 Fullsize/1967 Thunderbird chassis. They are completely different cars About the only thing the bodies share is the name...
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Posted: 10-September-2014 at 3:02PM |
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So what can I do?
But really though I don't think that really has anything to do with it. It just seems that if the rims were deeper they would clear. there's plenty of room in the wheel well on the top and it's not hitting anywhere else besides the outer wheel well.
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If the wheels fit under the car, get smaller tires, or, depending on where they rub, roll the wheel well lip, or Jack up the back end like it's 1984. If they rub on the inside, Sell them and get something else. Do not use spacers...Best answer is get something that fits, jacking up the back with shackles/air shocks will hurt handling, and an airshock failure may leave you stranded.
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