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Thanks, so no acorn style then?
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Originally posted by weaverT1971 weaverT1971 wrote:

Thanks, so no acorn style then?
Yes, that is correct, you cannot use the acorn style lug nuts on the uni-lug wheels. You will need the shank style/mag style lug nuts and washers.
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You will also have to find out how long the shanks have to be on the lug nuts. And you will probably have to find out what shank size width that you will need.  
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Some shank style lug nuts have washers with an offset hole in them, this is to center the wheel onto the lug nuts.
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Some shank style lug nuts use washers with a centered hole in the middle. Like in the picture below. The washers are used to keep the wheel centered while you are tightening the lug nuts.


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There should be small bumps or a small tab(s) in the lug nut holes on the wheels. These bumps and/or tab(s) are supposed to center the offset washer holes on to the lug(s) as you tighten them up.
 
Sometimes when people use an air powered impact wrench to install the unilug wheels, these bumps or tab(s) can become stripped or flattened and it can make the wheel unsafe. Because the bumps or tabs will no longer keep the offset washers properly centered/lined up on the lugs.
 
You should probably check those areas on the wheels that you had just purchased.
 
Many of the offset washers have a small bump(s) or tab(s) that will seat against the small bumps or tabs on the wheels, when you tighten the shank lug nuts.
 
I have heard that the washers can sometimes be damaged also, if an impact wrench is used. Many people suggest that you only torque/tighten the unilug lugnuts by hand using a tire iron/wrench, or a lug nut wrench (not an air powered impact wrench).


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Below is a picture of the bumps inside the of lug nut holes on the wheels (your wheels might be different though).
As you hand tighten the shank lug nuts, the bump(s) or tab(s) on the offset washers, will come to a stop and seat themselves on the bumps or tab(s) inside of the wheel lug nut hole, and it will center the wheel onto the lugs.
 
 


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When you put a wheel into your car's lug nuts, it should look like the picture below.
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When you install the "offset hole" washers, the washers will stop on the bumps or tab(s) while you are hand-tightening the shank lug nuts. The washers should be in the same position as in the picture below. 
Unless you have a different type of unilug wheels, which might use the "Centered Hole" washers. Maybe one of the other members can give you more information on that type.
 
 


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You will have to measure the width of the lug nut holes on your wheels, so you will know which lug nut size that you need.
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You will also need to measure the depth of the lug nut holes on your wheels. So you can get the correct length shank lug nuts.
Also notice the shank inside depth of the lug nuts in the picture below, so these conditions don't occur:
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You should also measure how long your lugs are at the front brake rotors (or front brake drums), and you should probably measure how long the lugs are at the rear brake drums. It might be better to measure them with the wheels off of the car.
This will help you figure out what size shank lug nuts that you need to get. If you cannot find them, then you can post all of the measurements here. And i will try to find them.
 
It will probably be good if you also measure the size of the recesses/indentations in the wheel where the washers go into. This will help you choose the correct size of the outer diameter of the washers.
 
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So then, the washers must fit inside the milled recesses?
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You can see from the picture that they are not oblong or oval shaped or circular. So do I have to find washers to fit those exact wholes or could I use a circular ones that fit the slots?
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Originally posted by weaverT1971 weaverT1971 wrote:

So then, the washers must fit inside the milled recesses?
Yes, i believe that they do. Hopefully one of the other members will know if this is true.
 
Originally posted by weaverT1971 weaverT1971 wrote:

You can see from the picture that they are not oblong or oval shaped or circular. So do I have to find washers to fit those exact wholes or could I use a circular ones that fit the slots?
The regular circular washers that fit into the milled recesses and fully seat into the milled recesses should be okay, they do not have to fit the entire oblong shaped recesses in the slots, so they do not have to be a washer with an oblong shaped outer diameter.
 
I believe that the washers will have to be round on the outside (the outer diameter) and i believe that the hole in the middle needs to be off-centered, like in the picture below. These should be relatively easy to find though.
 


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Here is a picture of weaverT1971's wheel below.
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Yep, perfect I should be g2g then I think I have them.
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That is good news.
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Is there any brand name or part numbers on your wheels? they might be on the back of the wheels.
 
I ask you this because it might be easier to find out which lug nuts you need, if you find the brand name and part numbers.


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no name just a patent number....that goes back to the old ET wheels.
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those wheels should have the oval shaped washers with the hole either offset or centered as needed
the round washers won't support the lug nut completely, possibly damage the wheels & come loose 
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DO NOT use round washers on wheels with the oblong recesses. Bad things WILL happen. Only use the oval/oblong wheels with those wheels.
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So, are you gonna leave these new wheels on the '71, when you trade it for a '72?  Or, keep them for the '72?  Seems like a lot of trouble if you're gonna include them with the trade.
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Originally posted by n2fordwagons n2fordwagons wrote:

So, are you gonna leave these new wheels on the '71, when you trade it for a '72?  Or, keep them for the '72?  Seems like a lot of trouble if you're gonna include them with the trade.
 
Well I thought I got a pretty good deal for the wheels so either way I couldn't go wrong with getting them. And it doesn't seem like I'll be finding a 72 anytime soon anyways.
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Well.....I got the wheels and tires.....and the correct lugs and the washers.....BUT the 275's are to wide. they wont clear the fender wall, I mean seriously these would barley fit inside the wheel well. Now I'm really confused because I looked on here and found posts of guys throwing these on their cars with no issues at all. I guess I must've not measured the back spacing correctly...it seems if the rims were deeper they would work but.....So what are my options at this point to get these to fit on my car? Leaf blocks, air shocks? http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/torino-pages/424920-largest-wheel-tire-size-combination-72-gran-torino-sport-fastback.html
IN this thread it talks about putting 275'son with no issues.


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Originally posted by weaverT1971 weaverT1971 wrote:

Well.....I got the wheels and tires.....and the correct lugs and the washers.....BUT the 275's are to wide. they wont clear the fender wall, I mean seriously these would barley fit inside the wheel well. Now I'm really confused because I looked on here and found posts of guys throwing these on their cars with no issues at all. I guess I must've not measured the back spacing correctly...it seems if the rims were deeper they would work but.....So what are my options at this point to get these to fit on my car? Leaf blocks, air shocks? http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/torino-pages/424920-largest-wheel-tire-size-combination-72-gran-torino-sport-fastback.html
IN this thread it talks about putting 275'son with no issues.
Yeah, but...
The 72 and up torino is an entirely different car than your 1971...
1971 is a unibody derivative of the old Fairlane chassis, 72 up is a full-frame derivative of the 1965 Fullsize/1967 Thunderbird chassis. They are completely different cars
About the only thing the bodies share is the name...
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So what can I do? But really though I don't think that really has anything to do with it. It just seems that if the rims were deeper they would clear. there's plenty of room in the wheel well on the top and it's not hitting anywhere else besides the outer wheel well.

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If the wheels fit under the car, get smaller tires, or, depending on where they rub, roll the wheel well lip, or Jack up the back end like it's 1984. If they rub on the inside, Sell them and get something else. Do not use spacers...
Best answer is get something that fits, jacking up the back with shackles/air shocks will hurt handling, and an airshock failure may leave you stranded.
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