400 bellhousing for auto to manual swap

the truck bells! notice the comment below the chart.

i find it hard to imagine that Ford didn't build any 429/4spd cars, that's the bell you're looking for

there may also be some 351M/400 cars built that used the 'Toploader Imposter' transmission?

if so that bell would work also, it would have a D7xx cast code

chart from http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com

an auto type transmission adapter might work out surprisingly well for about $1k,

might even fix the driveshaft length issue? i forget which is longer / shorter

why don't you think a 429 car toploader bell is right for a toploader in a car with the same bell pattern?

There are a couple details to work through, but it is bolt in with the right parts and possibly having to trim the pilot bushing surface on the input shaft to length.

Still working on this project and just about buttoned up, but this is a 460, 400 truck bell, big in/out toploader in my 1969 Montego.

I have a 1970 429 SCJ bell and the truck bell, put them face down on a bench side by side and the height difference between them was (going from memory now) about or less than 3/16" with the truck bell being the shorter.

I did not measure the height of the truck bell against a small block bell, but the input shaft length is the same to the pilot area. 

The difference in length between the big & small input shafts is on the pilot bushing surface only, the "Trick" in the old days for using a small input in a big block application was to trim the pilot bushing surface to the shorter length, if using a small input with the truck bell, you would still need to trim this to length too.

I mocked everything up out of the car, and even though I believe I could have bolted everything together and still had the clearance required, I put a small recess in the face of the pilot bushing to give a little extra depth for input shaft clearance to keep it from being pinned into the back of the crank.

Pictures Attached.

The last couple pictures show the relief I put into the pilot bushing to make sure it was not binding the input shaft on the back of the crank.

  He has $4,200 in receipts and I may get it for $1,500. Will know soon.

Reviving this thread cuz I am curious about a picture from August 30, 2021 by handsofstone.  

The picture(s) are at the bottom of the post. Appears to be an aluminum 460 bellhousing with a hydraulic factory clutch slave attached to a toploader and a 460. I am doing the same thing with a 1970 460 and a 1969 CJ big spline toploader. I have an identical  aluminum bellhousing and the hydraulic clutch system for it too.

Wondering if there is any info available on this as the thread did not mention anything about those pictures. My aluminum bellhousing is allegedly from a 1996 Ford truck of some kind and has the hydraulic clutch. Bell bolts right up to toploader and the 460. Center hole size matches the toploader input bearing retainer diameter. Bell depth (front to back) on the aluminum one is 7 inches. The D7 cast iron 351M bell I have has a depth of 6 1/4 inches and measurements look like it will work. Will a 390 flywheel work for this or do I have to get an aftermarket neutral balanced flywheel to use with the 1996 aluminum bellhousing? Would post pics of mine but have not figured out how to do that yet on this forum.