`77 LTD II 351M: what transmission ??

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   Hi folks,

I�m new here in this forum and my english isn�t that good, sorry about that! 

I�m from Germany and I own a 1977 LTDII with a 351M engine in it. It is a switzerland export vehicle ( maybe the only one !?? ).

Well, I�m not sure what transmission it got in it ( C4 or C6 ?? ), can anybody help me, how to make sure what I got??

I also want to get more power! The 351M is too weak to handle the 2.1 tons. It still has its 2-barrel Motorcraft on it, but I want to install an 4-barrel carb ( Holly or Edelbrock?? ), lunati cam and a weiand intake! Is this a good setup???

Then I want to install two 40-series Flowmaster mufflers, but I don�t know the size of my headers. Do I need to install need headers, when I�m giong to tune my V8 ??

What do I have to be careful about, when I�m giong to tune my engine???

Sorry guys, these are many questions ( maybe some dumb ones ) at one time, but over here in Germany, I don`t know anyone driving a Ford LTDII.

Thanks a lot, 

Patrick

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Sam Suffy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 07-July-2006 Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam Suffy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: `77 LTD II 351M: what transmission ?? Posted: 07-July-2006 at 1:02PM
	Hi folks, I�m new here in this forum and my english isn�t that good, sorry about that! I�m from Germany and I own a 1977 LTDII with a 351M engine in it. It is a switzerland export vehicle ( maybe the only one !?? ). Well, I�m not sure what transmission it got in it ( C4 or C6 ?? ), can anybody help me, how to make sure what I got?? I also want to get more power! The 351M is too weak to handle the 2.1 tons. It still has its 2-barrel Motorcraft on it, but I want to install an 4-barrel carb ( Holly or Edelbrock?? ), lunati cam and a weiand intake! Is this a good setup??? Then I want to install two 40-series Flowmaster mufflers, but I don�t know the size of my headers. Do I need to install need headers, when I�m giong to tune my V8 ?? What do I have to be careful about, when I�m giong to tune my engine??? Sorry guys, these are many questions ( maybe some dumb ones ) at one time, but over here in Germany, I don`t know anyone driving a Ford LTDII. Thanks a lot, Patrick
	1977 Ford LTD II Brougham 4-door ( switzerland export ) 351M

GranTorinoSport Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Admin of "The Org" Joined: 20-May-2003 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 2287	Post Options Post Reply Quote GranTorinoSport Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10-July-2006 at 6:56AM
	First, check out the Ford Torino Page information: http://grantorinosport.org/77ltdii.htm There are links at the bottom of the page for stuff, like some of the codes, etc. Also, for the codes, the Torino 1976 codes will be very similar, and for the transmission they will be the same. Check here for the codes: http://grantorinosport.org/76torino07.htm As far as Carburetors, any newer 4 bbl carb should be fine. Remember to not buy one too big - meaning get a 600cfm or so, not the big 750 cfm. Edelbrock and Holley are both nice, it's personal preference (I prefer Edelbrock) - both are outstanding. Intake and cam - again, just get parts that all work together. Too much of a cam may not be good, just as some intakes are more for high rpm and high flow, and will not work as well towing the 2.1 tons around in the city.
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Sam Suffy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 07-July-2006 Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam Suffy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10-July-2006 at 8:38AM
	Thx, I`ll check out the link u posted. So, what will be a fine setup for my 351M?? I want an asphalt ripping high torque monster for doing short sprints but I still want an acceptable gasmilage at about 80-90mph
	1977 Ford LTD II Brougham 4-door ( switzerland export ) 351M

JimW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09-December-2003 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 602	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11-July-2006 at 2:23AM
	With a stock bottom end 351M, you won't do a lot of asphalt ripping.. They have 8.0:1 compression from the factory which is pretty weak unless you are running boost. If you keep the M, then you can do what I did on mine, small cam (Crane 272/284 advertised, 214/224 at .050 lift, and .510/.524 lift), Performer intake, 650 carb and port the heads and exhaust manifolds. If you want to get more spendy, you can get headers as well. If you want to get real spendy, you can look for small chamber 351C 2V heads, like the ones from Australia, or the aluminum ones now availabel from a couple places. If I were you, I'd think about at least getting the valves in yours replaced, after two years of racing around, mine ate #1 exhaust valve and that killed the head and block. Gears are mandatory, at least 3.50:1 if you want to get off the line fast.. Better option? Get the crank and pistons from a 400, they will go right in and give you a bunch more torque. Try and get a handle on how much you want to spend versus how much power you need and you can get a better parts list. Jim
	1976 S&H Gran Torino 460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6 545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8 More to come!!!! 463rwhp/495rwtq two tons of fun see it and hear it at: www.torinocobra.com www.st

stevefretz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 15-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote stevefretz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20-March-2007 at 12:01AM
	check out www.fordmuscle.com they have a new article on beefing up the 351M Steve