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Spartandoug
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Topic: New mbr/69 torino conv lift arms crackedPosted: 28-September-2022 at 4:32PM |
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Just wanted to introduce myself, I am a new GTS forum member:) and just bought a fairly rough shape 69 Torino Convertible with 351W4V/FMX/9"Diff. My goal with this forum is to learn as much as I can about these cars and hopefully resource/rebuild/refurb any parts needed as I build/refurb it.
As far as the car goes, floor/trunk pans were previously replaced, and the rear 1/4 panels/wheelhouses have been repaired. The drive train is in really good shape, dash/electrical all works but needs a new top, exterior paint job and the entire interior needs refurb. I have 99% of the original parts (mostly in boxes) that will just take time a patience to straighten, clean and and/or re-chrome/re-paint before assembly. The only parts that I'm not sure I can refurb is the aluminum convertible top lift arms that are heavily corroded and cracked where the cable assist spring is mounted. These arms act as part of the top frame and as part of small side window channel. Additionally, the original two spoke steering wheel center pad is badly warped. Does anyone know an aftermarket source or individual that might have new/good used replacements for these items? Thanks all in advance for any repair advice/references anyone can provide. v/r
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DougR,
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Posted: 01-October-2022 at 1:45AM |
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Welcome Doug! I upgraded you to a new members and you have full forum access. I moved your question to the 1968-69 section in hopes it might get answered by someone who has more experience with these cars. To my knowledge the lift arms are not reproduced. You'd have to source some used ones. Here is a used steering wheel pad that might help you: |
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Posted: 01-October-2022 at 3:43PM |
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Vince, thanks for the forum location update and steering pad URL location, figures the pad was sold by the time I finished all my hurricane Ian prep, just my luck...
in getting started with this build I'm just stoked with this car... Does anyone have any advice for a good product to stop internal panel/wheelhouse rust without a complete car teardown and acid bath or media blast? Previous body work completed looks really good with lower quarter panel sheet metal and lower wheelhouses sheet metal replaced/patched. I plan on making this car a driver for pleasure and not a show car but want to stop as much rust as I can without causing any petroleum base type products that could bleed through into previous repairs? I do plan on pulling any all parts off that I can to media blast and paint/recondition and/or should, I cut the rear quarters out now and replace them before paint? I've seen worse quarter panel repairs and rust and I just hate to cut out all the previous body work for the expense involved if I don't have to.
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DougR,
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Posted: 02-October-2022 at 12:39PM |
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The only products I know that can stop or slow down further rust are oil spray type rustproofing. Lots used products like Fluid Film or Krown with success. Living in an area that sees lots of road salt, I have been a 25+ year user of Krown rust proofing on my daily drivers. It really does work, especially when sprayed inside panels. Local body shops recommend it too, and I haven't heard of it or seen it bleed through body work (I have used it on some old cars that had body work). Ultimately though it would be a stop gap until you can properly fix the body work.
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Posted: 19-October-2022 at 2:19PM |
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Thanks Vince, I really appreciate your reply on this and sorry for the slow response but been out of town for a while. I'll give the Krown product a go. Hopefully this'll will get me by for a while to see me through the preliminary build. This car needs a good bit to get it rolling and I'll do the wheelhouses and rear quarters R2 when I get a few more dimes in a row.
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DougR,
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Posted: 19-October-2022 at 2:43PM |
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Just to throw it out to the community once again does anyone have a used part source for the aluminum convertible top lift arms? These arms lift/retract the conv top frame and provide as part of small rear quarter window channel. Or will lift arms from a Mustang or some other ford work?
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DougR,
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Posted: 20-October-2022 at 1:59PM |
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there's an episode of Wheeler Dealers that showed an outfit that might have 1/2 a chance of being able to help you out, not sure if this is the place but maybe give them a call anyway. it may take some legwork, gotta start somewhere
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Posted: 21-October-2022 at 4:11AM |
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Thanks Rockatansky! I'll check it out. Additionally, I just got up with my local chrome shop guy and he's pretty sure he can fabricate two arms made out of steel or reinforce my old ones. I really appreciate it.
Tks again, v/r
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DougR,
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Posted: 22-October-2022 at 5:30PM |
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Hello. I have a complete top removed from a 1969 Montego MX vert. It is the complete top mechanism, it is 100% operational and in good order. I also have the complete wiring harness, switch, pump and most of the vert specific items. There is no way I will separate the specific items you are asking for from this top, but I will sell the unit complete for $300. I live in MA, and the item would need to be shipped freight. If you wanted the pump (bench tested good), and the rest of the wiring I would add it in for cheap. Thanks, Mike Howard. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: 22-October-2022 at 6:58PM |
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Very cool mtburger, thanks... This is my first vert and was worried about this one. I would love to have the top. give me a call tomorrow (7ofour six41 sixtwo9two) and we'll work out the details for shipping and the other parts.
Tks again, so glad I joined this forum. v/r |
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Posted: 10-March-2023 at 2:48AM |
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Hi V/R.
How did you get on with your lift arms? I have a 70 vert that needs a full restoration, and the lift arms have cracked and been welded and cracked again. I am looking to make two new ones but I am worried that I will get the holes for the pins slightly out of place. Do you get any made? Cheers Paul
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Posted: 11-March-2023 at 2:09AM |
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I ended up finding a complete vert frame with good lift arms out of a parted out Montego. Mtburger from this forum really helped me out and has been a wealth of knowledge for my current build. I also found that face book, Ebay, and other forums are the great resources to help in finding decent used parts. Vert frame and trim parts are really hard to find but have had some good luck with Ebay as well. Wish I could be of more help. Good luck with your endeavors on this.
v/r DougR
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Posted: 20-November-2025 at 7:21AM |
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this is 2 1/2 years after the post below about a 69 torino convertible need for the diecast arms in the top frame. the same die cast arm is used in all Fairlane, Torino, and Montego converts from 66 to 71, but are available no where. ive talked to every wreaking yard in the country, all broken.
i recently bought a 68 GT 390 convert with the broken arms. i got the car at a very low price so i had the arms welded back together and 3D scanned. they are currently being machined on a 5-axis C&C mill out of billet 7050 aluminum and am told they will be 4 times as strong as the originals. This single item purchase is expensive, will cost me $4800 for those arms. i have since had them priced by this company and a couple in china in 20, and 50 set quantities, and can get the cost down closer to $2000 to 2400. Also working on a sand casting company that could get the cost lower. if anyone is interested in getting their top working again, please connect. those arms lasted 50 years on most cars with no maintenance. if they had been serviced like we do our engine oil, and used white lithium grease at the bearings and joints every 10 years, and replace the hydraulic cylinders every 20 years they probably would never have broken.
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Posted: 20-November-2025 at 7:48AM |
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any chance you still have this top frame
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regarding the diecast arms in the 66-71 Torino, Fairlane and Montego convertibles, they are not available anywhere. Most of them break because no one greases the bushing every 5 or so years. i am a new member in late 2025. i bought a 68 Torino convertible last September with the broken arms. i welded the arms back together, and them 3D scanned and then milled out of billet aluminum. they are not cheap but are 4 times stronger than the originals. have found or modified all of the nylon bushings needed, and made some of the custom fasteners that needed replacing. got it all figured out, and now have a nice operating top. if anyone is interested in where to get these arms give me a call or text 925-366-8400 and will put you in touch with the machine shop. Dave |
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Posted: 31-January-2026 at 4:36AM |
This sounds interesting. Do you have any photos of the end result?
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I tried to add a video, but can't figure that out. First picture is of the old broken arms welded back together for scanning and the new arms that were milled out of 7050 aircraft aluminum billet. The other three pictures are of the new arm installed in the top frame. The canvas top installer has ordered the new top and it will be installed in a couple of weeks. ![]() ![]() ![]() rr
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Posted: 01-February-2026 at 1:28AM |
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Very nice Dave, thanks for sharing those details.
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Posted: 01-February-2026 at 3:04AM |
Those look great! If you make a new post, I will sticky it in the 68-69 Torino forum for anyone looking for these parts. For the video, you need to post it on YouTube for it to work on the forum. Here are some instructions on how to do it: If you can't figure it out, just post the Youtube URL and I can embed the video for you.
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