351 Cleveland Starter Suggestions

 

I think I'd like to run a new longer positive battery cable straight to the solenoid rather than feed the starter through stacking the cables on the front side of the original fender solenoid

 

then feed the fender solenoid with a jumper of the battery terminal clamp bolt or a dedicated whip built into the positive cable

 

and of course run the S terminal down to the mini-starter solenoid also

 

1st remove the (+) battery cable from the battery top post to avoid sparks or worse. Now remove the large gauge original starter wire from the stud facing the firewall and re-install it on the battery side of the solenoid along with the battery cable. The smaller gauge "trigger" wire that engages the starter or sends a signal that tells the starter to engage/spin, attaches to the stud facing the firewall. The original Green/red stripe wire is retained on the "S" terminal of the fender mounted solenoid. Re-install the battery cable to the battery post and enjoy much easier starts. Hope this helps.

californiajohnny wrote: but what i hate is you're watching a movie and they dub in the Chrysler starter sound on a ford or GM, really !!???

The end of the "Gone in 60 Seconds" remake.  

 

Russ,

 The PMGR starter I pictured above is a DB Electrical starter, albeit for a 460. I had issues with 3 different Db starters. had to send each back, but I will say DB was quick to get the starts back and the return process was relatively easy. The issue with all of them was that after a week or two they would all start grinding the flexplate/flywheel during the starting process, I picked up a used PMGR factory starter for a '94 F350 w/460 auto and it never gave me any grinding issues. The returned to me DB starter sat on my shelf for over a year until the used factory starter started to get a little slower at turning over(it was 20+ years old). I looked at the two starters side by side and I found that the DB unit's Bendix teeth weren't chamfered (like the factory Motorcraft Bendix) to allow a smoother engagement onto the flexplate, I swapped the factory Bendix into the DB starter (it was a direct fit)and it hasn't given me any grinding issues since I installed it 8 months ago. The DB 302/351 starter may not have this issue, but just wanted to give you a "heads-up" of what I found. Good luck.

 It never failed to start, just embarrassing when you have a guy or two say how nice your ride is then attempt to start and hear the SCREETCH/GRINDING, kinda takes the smiles off your and their faces. I would purchase another JY Motorcraft PMGR starter in a heartbeat, just a hit and miss deal when I am out "pickin' ", you may be surprised how much plastic/nylon parts make up the internals of these starters, factory or not. Good luck with either choice, the PMGR's are a definite upgrade in my book.