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gnrlee01 
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 Posted: 02-January-2017 at 2:04PM |
what you should do is dyno your car before and after you put this on, and see exactly how much this affects it. im curious as to how it affects the fuel economy as well. please keep us all posted, im anxious to find out... 
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Rockatansky
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Posted: 01-January-2017 at 7:22AM |
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flashbacks to the Warshawsky's catalogs ... gotta wonder why the carb mfgr's didn't include them, surely the patent from the first rendition is expired by now?
Yeah Dan I've $hot away plenty but i can't say I'm happy about most of them LOL i suspect any improvement noticeable or not will be in the form of drivability & fuel economy, possibly improved low/midrange torque but not HP
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Dan the ranchero man
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 11:54AM |
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I want to know what you think and I might consider one of these for the 74 ranchero. I have spent $50 on dumber things and if this works and you really notice a difference in performance that would be great.
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Power Surge
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 7:24AM |
Also....I would probably try to make my own first... lol.
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Sal Mennella
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Rockatansky
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 7:17AM |
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the invention that keeps coming back. 1st, the garden hose flow from the nozzle is not what gets to the combustion chamber, you can see that as soon as the fuel shot hits the main booster it breaks up significantly. then it's exposed to heat & turbulence in the intake manifold plenum
Yes if you can cause better atomization the engine will run more efficiently &/or make more power but ~ $50 EACH !? i wonder if they have one for 660 center squirters?  |
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Power Surge
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 4:45AM |
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I'm a former Ford custom dyno tuner, and I was also one of the very few people in the country that did hard core carb tuning as well.
Carbs are wonderful devices, but each one has it's own minor issues and you have to understand that the work by using several different "circuits" of fuel delivery throughout the rpm range. And each one has a design that transitions one circuit to the next, hoping to have as little fumble as possible. The accelerator pump and squirters are one of those transition devices. They deliver extra fuel during the sudden loss of pull on the venturis which would create a dead spot or even a stall under acceleration and bridge the gap between the idle circuit and the main circuit. What most people don't know, is that they are WAYY more things you can alter or adjust in most carbs beyond the "normal" stuff. However, those other areas usually require special metering blocks and other parts that can make tuning the carb cost more than the carb itself did. Now don't get me wrong.... a carb tuned to that level is a beautiful thing. My old Shelby 427 Cobra got 24 mpg on normal driving and 13.0 A/F under WOT...and that was reworking the 1965 Holly carb. This device here is kind of interesting. It's not really tuning anything, but breaking the fuel down finer would definitely make a difference in response. I don't think 50 bucks is out of line to try this IF you have a car that's got a need for it (i.e. tip in accel issue). Fixing an issue like that via tuning would cost way more than 50 bucks. Just my 2 cents :)
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Sal Mennella
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mach1000
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 4:28AM |
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Whoever made the presentation likes google images...
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unlovedford
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 4:12AM |
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I noticed the difference in how they operated the throttle right from the start. I'd save that $50 for 25 gallons of fuel and an hour of fine tuning.
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 1:24AM |
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I'd love to see Dulcich and Freiburger test this thing on engine masters. I'm a bit annoyed that Thompson claims years of testing yet provides absolutely no data. And no, I do not consider those silly dyno sheets on their website real test data.
It does seem intuitive that a finer mist of fuel might flow better, burn better, etc. Since cracking the throttle blades open causes a portion of the fuel to drop out of suspension this little device could really improve that issue, however, I'm actually betting it covers up a common problem I see on customer tuned cars: too big a squirter nozzle to begin with. The resulting bog on acceleration is almost always very clearly visible on O2/AFR data graphs. But like I said... I'd like to see clear chassis dyno data. J Edited by gaertner_jan - 31-December-2016 at 1:28AM |
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Posted: 31-December-2016 at 12:45AM |
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I go here for my carb tuning needs/advice, many there say it's a gimmick, but I have no personal experience with them(CJ, just don't want you to throw money away-hell, send it to me instead
). Jmarkaudio and Tuner are awesome sources for carb tech, NEVER have given me bad info. |
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Posted: 30-December-2016 at 11:01PM |
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Please tell me you're impressed with it? =)
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Torino_Chris
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Posted: 30-December-2016 at 9:39PM |
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Well it'll be interesting to hear from you about the results! The video and website are pretty cheesy, right?
Sounds like something from a TV Shopping Channel And the prices... |
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californiajohnny
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Posted: 30-December-2016 at 6:41PM |
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has anyone else seen this item? a buddy of mine showed me this a couple of days ago... so i just bought one to try, if i'm impressed i'll be buying several more
http://www.thompsonperformance.com/ watch the video, they say "seeing is believing" well so is hearing, sounds much smoother and less hesitation |
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