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   Hi guys. Just joined the forum. Spent the last two hours reading through old posts about headers. I wrote to summit racing and asked them to recommend a set of headers for me. And gave them my set up info of course. Which is:
1972 Ford Gran Torino Sport. 351 Cleveland 2V. FMX auto column shift. 
They recommended me Hedman Hedders part number 88320. They are $245.97 which is very reasonable. But in the description it states  (standard trans column shift-no  standard trans floor shift-no  auto trans column shift-yes  auto
Trans floor shift-yes)
Now if I go to Jegs, and look at the same headers, same part number 88320 and picture it says will ONLY work with c4
Transmission. 
Does anyone know if these will work with a FMX? Or maybe someone on here has a 351c 2v with column shift FMX that could tell me what they are using. 
I found a set of hookers online but they said will not work with power steering. 
I'm no transmission man but I would assume if those work with c4 I don't think a FMX looks much different.
Any help would be appreciated. 
PS my heads are the Aussie heads but everything is the same size as the factory 2v heads I took off. I'm getting anxious 
To get my car back together and see how it runs. 
Thanks again.  

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Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Header help Posted: 28-June-2016 at 11:04PM
	Hi guys. Just joined the forum. Spent the last two hours reading through old posts about headers. I wrote to summit racing and asked them to recommend a set of headers for me. And gave them my set up info of course. Which is: 1972 Ford Gran Torino Sport. 351 Cleveland 2V. FMX auto column shift. They recommended me Hedman Hedders part number 88320. They are $245.97 which is very reasonable. But in the description it states (standard trans column shift-no standard trans floor shift-no auto trans column shift-yes auto Trans floor shift-yes) Now if I go to Jegs, and look at the same headers, same part number 88320 and picture it says will ONLY work with c4 Transmission. Does anyone know if these will work with a FMX? Or maybe someone on here has a 351c 2v with column shift FMX that could tell me what they are using. I found a set of hookers online but they said will not work with power steering. I'm no transmission man but I would assume if those work with c4 I don't think a FMX looks much different. Any help would be appreciated. PS my heads are the Aussie heads but everything is the same size as the factory 2v heads I took off. I'm getting anxious To get my car back together and see how it runs. Thanks again.

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29-June-2016 at 7:59AM
	Well. I've spent all day making phone calls and this is what I learned. Called hedman- they said they only have the 88320 and will not fit my car. Only c4 trans. Barnett performance- only has the 88320 Summit racing - only has the 88320 Jeggs- only has the 88320 And I called the place that makes them that I got from a link in this forum. They can make me a set for $1,000.00. Yea I cant of ford that. I can't belive there are no headers for a simple factory set up.

californiajohnny Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 05-October-2013 Location: winlock, wa Status: Offline Points: 14723	Post Options Post Reply Quote californiajohnny Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29-June-2016 at 3:28PM
	IIRC the c4 is a little bit smaller trans, but not a whole lot different than a FMX, now the c6 is a bit larger. maybe someone else will have more info..........
	JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29-June-2016 at 3:37PM
	Thanks for the reply. The last place I contacted was Holley. The guy had a set of hookers that the website said will not work. But his book said they will. He said maybe the book was right and the website is wrong. He said he will try to find out and call me back tomorrow. I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed. So far every company I've talked to has said c4 only. But thanks again I been searching the Internet for someone that has the same engine and tranny that has had success.

lynchster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 07-January-2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 2150	Post Options Post Reply Quote lynchster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29-June-2016 at 3:45PM
	I wish I'd have kept my paper work from my Ranchero swap. I switched to a 302 with an AOD which is based on the FMX. It even used the same driveshaft. I could very well have used the Hedman headers but I had the cable actuated column shifter. I did have to tweek them because they were tight to the tranny. Particularly on the left side. I had the engine and trans on the floor with the headers attached. I then ran a ratchet strap around the engine and headers where they bolted to the heads so they would move up top. I inserted a baseball bat into the collector put my feet on the tranny and "clearanced" the headers.
	*Chuck* 72 Gran Torino Sport 13 Taurus SHO "Mr Pig"

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01-July-2016 at 12:41AM
	The Helmans I was looking at says it works with column shift c4. But not column shift c6 or FMX.

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01-July-2016 at 12:42AM
	Hedman

BadHabit351 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21-June-2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 217	Post Options Post Reply Quote BadHabit351 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01-July-2016 at 9:36AM
	I have those same headers. When I bolted them into my "old" car, I had the 351C & C-4. I had to "tweak" them to get the lined up with the cross member. By tweaking; I mean putting a crowbar in the collector (after headers are bolted on engine) and pulling it away from the tranny. Go slow & don't go crazy; you should be fine. I am using these same headers with a T-5 bell housing and tranny as well. Looks to be enough room for an FMX...I'd probably try a C-6 as well.
	1973/72 Gran Torino Sport 1971 Torino GT convertilble 2013 Ford Fusion 2004 Ford SuperDuty 2013 Mustang GT

TV 2M8O Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20-September-2006 Location: Southern Ohio Status: Offline Points: 2153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TV 2M8O Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02-July-2016 at 11:06AM
	Crites' site says they have '72 351C Torino heads, but you have to call them for info: (740) 983-4777 or (740) 983-2273. http://tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=colson43&page=4 I'm using their 460 headers on my car... things are tight, but they fit! GOOD LUCK
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Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02-July-2016 at 7:24PM
	Thank you very much. I'm gonna call them first thing tomorrow.

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07-July-2016 at 8:36AM
	Ha ha. I just called them. They told me they couldn't make them for a 72 with 351c.

Uncle Salty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28-June-2016 Location: WV Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Uncle Salty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09-July-2016 at 4:42PM
	Well I just ordered the hedman 88320. I'll let you know how it works. I talked to a guy on fb that says he has a FMX and they fit his. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed and waiting on the mail.

Regul8r 2 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 02-February-2016 Location: Rapid City, SD Status: Offline Points: 447	Post Options Post Reply Quote Regul8r 2 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22-July-2016 at 10:08PM
	good luck with the headers! Of all the things I know about these cars I do not claim to be the 351C expert. Others have dealt with this and should be able to chime in. BTW, WELCOME to the Family! Your membership should be approved now.
	Carl, Member/Admin since 07. Still the same admin/moderator REGUL8R just needed a 2nd account for more picture space. Owner- www.CaNDeCustoms.com