The Ford Torino Page Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Model Specific Forum > 1970-1971 Ford and Mercury
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - flex plate confusion?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

flex plate confusion?

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: flex plate confusion?
    Posted: 30-January-2012 at 3:06PM
i have a 71 torino, with a c4 331 combo.

so i just got my brand new T.C.I torque converter. i am so close to putting the trans and motor back to one unit. but the flex plate is confusing me. i have a 11 inch torque converter, do i need to find a 11 inch torque converter fitting flex plate or just a standard 70/71 fitting one for c4 nothing special. i know there is teeth differences to, so does the teeth count matter? and will it mount up no problem or will the drilled holes have to be exact? also how do you have to balance them with the motor all buttoned up or can you take just the plate by its self? how much will it cost to? help will be greatly appreciated. 

dudeman 
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Offline
Points: 6398
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-January-2012 at 10:14PM
you need to know;
 
if your engine is 50oz balance, 28oz balance or neutral balance
 
the correct tooth count, 157 (not sure but it's smaller) or 164 (14.23") for your bell housing
 
and the converter stud measurement across the middle to an opposite stud, is it 10.5" ? 


Edited by Rockatansky - 30-January-2012 at 10:14PM
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-January-2012 at 1:28PM
the torque converter is a 11 inch 26 spline, and there are 157 teeth on old flex plate how would you find out it motor is 50oz, 28oz, or neutral balanced? the motor came from my brothers fox body, and it was a 5 speed, and the previous owner had it as a drag car mainly. i am going to look up how to find out but still help will be helpful.
dudeman
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-February-2012 at 9:18AM
i believe it is a 50 oz balance because the motor is a newer one compared to the old. motor is a 93.
got every thing i need thanks for the help

Back to Top
Blueoval76 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar
Member of the Stroker Club

Joined: 20-February-2010
Location: Sussex WI
Status: Offline
Points: 698
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blueoval76 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-February-2012 at 4:37AM
Motor year wont matter if it has been built by a shop. They usually reccomend a 28oz when doing any kind of stroker but it could still be a 50oz. You need to know for absolute certain what it is or you will destroy the motor. Try looking at the balancer and see if it is a factory unit? If its aftermarket take some pics and post them and try to get a part number on it. This will help a ton in figuring it out.
68 Galaxie Wagon 390/auto/2.70
03 Bonneville some mods
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Offline
Points: 6398
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-February-2012 at 5:57AM
and to top it off sometimes a they'll use a 50oz balancer on a 28oz crank or vice versa
 
the most help will come from either the previous owner or a pic
of the weight / flywheel that came off it
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-February-2012 at 4:57AM
the flywheel is gone....it went when we sold the t5, but i will look at the harmonic balancer post pictures to will this correlate with the right flex plate oz if i look it up online? 
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-February-2012 at 5:15AM
il post pics tonight got it

Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-February-2012 at 5:44AM
i really don't want to mess this motor up is there anyway to buy matching flex plate and harmonic balancer?

Back to Top
Blueoval76 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar
Member of the Stroker Club

Joined: 20-February-2010
Location: Sussex WI
Status: Offline
Points: 698
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blueoval76 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-February-2012 at 7:27PM
You can buy new matched pieces but you have to know for sure what the internal rotating assembly was balanced at or you WILL mess it up. Sorry to be blunt but it will not last if the wrong balance is used.
68 Galaxie Wagon 390/auto/2.70
03 Bonneville some mods
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Offline
Points: 6398
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-February-2012 at 7:30PM
it you do get the wrong weight, the engine will shake considerably and you'll know it's wrong very quickly, you won't hurt it if you shut it off as soon as you realize it ain't right
 
so what does your balancer look like?


Edited by Rockatansky - 04-February-2012 at 7:32PM
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-February-2012 at 3:40AM
it is a 50 oz, E4TE-A3A is part number, so if i have a 50oz balancer i need a 50oz flex plate or the 28oz balance? 

 
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-February-2012 at 3:50AM
Back to Top
Rockatansky View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 30-July-2010
Location: On The Road
Status: Offline
Points: 6398
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rockatansky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-February-2012 at 5:46AM
most likely the balancer and flex weight are the same
72 GT Ute
   
Back to Top
Blueoval76 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar
Member of the Stroker Club

Joined: 20-February-2010
Location: Sussex WI
Status: Offline
Points: 698
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blueoval76 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-February-2012 at 7:01AM
Thats the factory 84 50oz part number and you would want to get a 50oz flywheel with the correct bolt patteren. The two Ford bolt patterns are 10 1/2" or the 11 7/16" sizes. You need to make sure which one you have and order accordingly. Mine is a Pioneer brand on my 347 in my Torino. Good luck and let us know if you need anything else. Wink
68 Galaxie Wagon 390/auto/2.70
03 Bonneville some mods
Back to Top
dudeman View Drop Down
New Member
New Member
Avatar

Joined: 22-July-2011
Location: atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dudeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-February-2012 at 10:45AM
helped out a lot thanks guys now i can get this project going again
dudeman
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.06
Copyright ©2001-2023 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.188 seconds.