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    Posted: 14-January-2014 at 7:01PM
Ok so I have a 351w in my 67 falcon, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO!! The car was originally a I6 and I bought a v8 throttle set up for it, and just like everything else, it doesn't fit! Can anyone help me?
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what don't fit? is it too short? don't attach to the firewall or pedal? or to the manifold bracket?
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Well the motor is so close to the firewall I don't think I can jam it it there, plus if I did mount it I'd have to drill holes for it. And pretty much the same goes for the kick down lever.
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Ermm... what tranny are you using? i used a lokar kickdown cable conversion for my aod, not sure if that would work for you? (that kick down bar was not one of ford's better ideas, just for these reasons) may need some firewall massaging. can the motor mounts be lowered any? what did you use? maybe some close up pics of the mounts,firewall area in question,etc. can the motor be moved forward any? what kind of radiator clearance do you have?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grantorinosport351 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-January-2014 at 7:44PM
I'll check it out tomorrow, and snap some pics, the v8 gas pedal setup I got, it had the original kickdown setup for it attached, and I think maybe if I cut it off I can get it to fit. I haven't tried uet, but I highly doubt it will fit, that motor is in there tight. I don't think the motor can be lowered any and I'm 90% sure I have a c4, but I am no genius at identifying trannys. And the motor mounts were in the trunk, the probably came off of a fairlane, because at one time it had a 351w in it, but nobody ever finished the build.
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Well today I took the v8 falcon pedal, and cut off the kickdown rod and I got it to fit. (After I took the valve cover off) I took a quick pic, sorry I didn't get a pic of the pedal out of the car. I should've tried this before I posted this thread, but thanks to all who tried to help!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GranTorinoSport Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2014 at 2:29PM
That is essentially what I did with my 71 F-250 when I added the Edelbrock carb. There is a little flex in the rod, I wish it were larger in diameter (with a reduced size where it fits with linkage), but otherwise a good setup.

I explored other options - with it not being originally set up as a cable actuated throttle, you have limited choices. Lokar makes outstanding products, but a new pedal assembly wasn't for me. Also, most of those pedals are modern looking, like one that I think is shaped like and detailed like a foot. Just not my style.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2014 at 6:28PM
pic explains a lot, i was thinking you had  a cable type throttle, forgot about the older linkage type. what intake is that? it looks quite tall even for a dual plane manifold
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It's a edelbrock rpm air gap, this is the reason why I may need a hood scoop.
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Originally posted by Grantorinosport351 Grantorinosport351 wrote:

It's a edelbrock rpm air gap, this is the reason why I may need a hood scoop.
  i thought it may be, due to the fact i could see under the runners.
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90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
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75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Bird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-January-2014 at 11:35AM
Before you drive that on the street, check your throttle linkage for binding/overcentering at wide open throttle and for full throttle opening. The Ford rod-type throttle linkages tend to get geometry issues when modified.
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Thanks, and I did before I took it out, I put a pretty stout spring on it.
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