The Ford Torino Page Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Model Specific Forum > General Automotive Technical Discussion
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Differences in 5.0, 5.8, Modular Engine Dimensions
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Differences in 5.0, 5.8, Modular Engine Dimensions

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
unlovedford View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17-December-2010
Location: Tennessee
Status: Offline
Points: 10142
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Differences in 5.0, 5.8, Modular Engine Dimensions
    Posted: 19-June-2015 at 4:35AM
Ever wonder about the size differences between Ford small block 302/351 and the 4.6L modular engines?

302 (5.0L)
27-1/2 Inches L
20-3/4 Inches H
18-3/4 Inches W

351W (5.8L)
27-1/2 Inches L
23-3/4 Inches H
21 Inches W

4.6L SOHC
28 Inches L
26 Inches H
28-5/8 Inches W

4.6L DOHC
28 Inches L
29-7/8 Inches H
30 Inches W

Edited by unlovedford - 19-June-2015 at 4:55AM
Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)
Back to Top
dave302 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 08-October-2009
Location: usa
Status: Offline
Points: 3171
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dave302 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 4:50AM
In the diagram below, the DOHC modular motors are quite large and have a low output per cubic foot of space. The upper intake plenium is not shown for the modular motor (the black lined motor). It is wide and tall, but it is a bit shorter than the others when they are used in factory configuration. The 351's can be shortened a bit with careful cover/pump selection.


Edited by dave302 - 19-June-2015 at 7:30AM
Back to Top
californiajohnny View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 05-October-2013
Location: winlock, wa
Status: Offline
Points: 14609
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 7:02AM
joe, are you wondering if the newer motor will work in your wagon? if a 460 will fit in there, i think you can make the newer motor fit ok, as with any engine swap, i'd say the main issues will be the pan configuration and exhaust issues mostly
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
Back to Top
unlovedford View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17-December-2010
Location: Tennessee
Status: Offline
Points: 10142
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 8:42AM
Nah, I am forgoing any modular Torino drivetrain until I can get a Coyote setup. The price on salvage Coyote Mustangs is coming slowly down to Joe area prices - just have to be ready to pull the trigger on one once I get a suitable candidate (on both sides).
Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)
Back to Top
californiajohnny View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 05-October-2013
Location: winlock, wa
Status: Offline
Points: 14609
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 8:52AM
ok. i'm not up on this newer stuff so what exactly is a coyote motor? the only coyote i remember was a car from the t.v. show hardcastle & mccormick Thumbs Up



Edited by californiajohnny - 19-June-2015 at 8:56AM
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
Back to Top
unlovedford View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17-December-2010
Location: Tennessee
Status: Offline
Points: 10142
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 9:02AM
The Coyote engines came out a few years ago in Mustang GT's as a 5.0. 412 horses from the factory, with EASY ways to extract huge gains in power. 750 HP out of a Coyote with a supercharger is only a call away.

Now, the 2015 factory versions start with 435 horses out of the 5.0. A neighbor has installed a Borla cat-back, CAI, a chip, a tune, and a couple of small trinkets on his 2015 and is getting nearly 500 horses - without cracking the engine open. It sounds scary fast and is.
Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)
Back to Top
californiajohnny View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 05-October-2013
Location: winlock, wa
Status: Offline
Points: 14609
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote californiajohnny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 9:05AM
gotcha! yeah you can get tons of stuff for the newer mustangs, it's crazy!
JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
Back to Top
unlovedford View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 17-December-2010
Location: Tennessee
Status: Offline
Points: 10142
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote unlovedford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-June-2015 at 9:07AM
Here are the official numbers, straight from Ford, pending certification.

For this sixth generation, the base 3.7-liter V6 model's power rating drops from 305 hp to 300 hp. Torque holds steady at 280 lb-ft. Compression ratio for the V6 is 10.5:1. The base V6 fastback with a manual weighs in at 3526 lbs, an increase of 30 lbs over the 2014 model.

The GT, which uses a rowdier version of the 5.0-liter Coyote V8, now has 435 hp and 400 lb-ft of twist, up 15 hp and 10 lb-ft from its predecessor. The compression ratio is 11:1.

In EcoBoost guise, the 2015 Mustang offers 310 hp and 320 lb-ft of torque from its 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder on 93-octane gasoline. It's a twin-scroll turbo—the first ever used on a Ford. The compression ratio on the turbo 'Stang is 10.5:1.
Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.06
Copyright ©2001-2023 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.