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kversch
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Posted: 13-February-2016 at 6:12AM |
Hey guys. Other then the transmission . Are there any differences is the parts on a three speed vs a 4 speed? I've seen a few three on the tree cars come up for sale recently. It's got me wondering about parts interchange for doing the four speed convention.
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-kevin-
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Rockatansky
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pretty sure the clutch linkage parts are the same for each given engine combo, small bell pattern vs large
FE you're on your own now I wonder if the frame mounted pivot is always the same? |
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75GranMan
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I've never have seen a floor shifted 3spd 72/73 torino, pretty sure all were 3 on the tree. I also believe the 3spd speedo cable entered from the left side of the trans?
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Rockatansky
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if the speedo is on the left it's the same cable & driven gear as an automatic, RUG 4 speed uses a longer cable & opposite rotation driven gear for a right side connection
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kychevyguy
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The big difference is the three on a tree has the shifter on the steering column while the four speed has the shifter on the floor.
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GTW
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3 speed cars are rarer than 4 speed cars...
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Griffin
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72sport
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Clutch pedal and linkage are the same between 3 and 4 speed. 3 speeds were all column shift, so you'd need a column and tunnel hump to look correct. Reverse wire harness for backup lights to make those work. I'm not sure on the speedo cable. I'm not 100% sure, but about 95% sure driveshaft length is the same.
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Tom
1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver |
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kversch
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This is what has got me thinking about this check this car out. They have converted the three on the tree to a floor shift. https://binghamton.craigslist.org/cto/5407613874.html |
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-kevin-
Brown 72 gran torino 351c 2v Black 73 GTS FB 302 Red 73 GTS FB 351C C6 trans 73 GTS FB Parted 73 torino 4dr, 302, FMX parted 97 F250 crew cab 7.3 diesel http://kverschtorino.blogspot.com/ |
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MrSmog
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he's sure proud of that 4 door |
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Big Bird
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Base 4-door with a stick. Don't think I like it at $4k... maybe half that.
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MrSmog
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yea has that bootlegger look to it, gator McKlusky tribute? lol |
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unlovedford
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Other than swapping the 3 speed manual column out and cutting a hole in the hump on my base wagon, pretty much everything else is straightforward to swap in a 5 speed. Pedals are there, Z bar, etc. My preference would be to use the Fox clutch/pedal setup I have with a cable for smoother action, which I may do. That would leave me with a couple of complete sets of 4 speed changeover components for a future project.
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I just got manual steering gear box and pedals and z bar and linkage out of a 73 torino 3 on the tree
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