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    Posted: 04-May-2023 at 6:14AM
Hi forum…..Sooooo…..what do you guys do? Can it be done without springs comps? You know……car on jacks…..loosen shock…lower the arm assembly slowly……can this work?

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The manual shows a jack and fingers crossed. Scares the crap out of me thinking about what the stored energy can do.
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Get a piece of medium duty chain and a grade 8 bolt and chain the spring to the lower control arm
, it can only go so far then . It’s not something to be afraid of , just respect the process and move deliberately!
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What springs do you all use? I am interested in OE springs, not performance stuff. Just normal good quality…
My car is non-ac./429/4spd.
Moog 8088? Moog 8090?…..Mevotech?…lesjofors?(expensive)


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what engine, might make a difference?

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercury,1970,cyclone
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Most instructions say to use a spring compressor and it is the safest way.  Spring compressors aren't expensive and are a good tool to have - you can use it on your '72 Torino too.   Google search spring removal and install on 1st Gen Mustangs and you can see several methods.  Your suspension is pretty close to a 1st Gen Mustang setup.

As for springs, I am not sure where you got those part numbers, but the Moog springs are really light duty, more like early Falcon six cylinder springs.  Looking at the Ford parts Catalog for 1970 Torinos with a 429, you want a spring that is stiffer.  The catalog lists the spring specs, but not the spring rates.  They'd have to be calculated, but a good indicator of how stiff a springs is, is the wire diameter.  Generally, when comparing replacement springs for a car, the ticker the wire diameter, the stiffer the spring.

So for the examples you picked, 8090 only has a wire diameter of 0.60" and 8088 only has a wire diameter of 0.59".  The Ford Parts catalog springs of a 1970 Torino 429 has wire diamters of 0.66" or 0.704", so they would be considerably stiffer.  IF your current springs are too rusted, you should be able to get a reasonable accurate measurement of the wire diameter. 

Moog springs are good, just getting hard to find.  I don't believe you have the correct listing for a 1970 Cyclone 429.  The other brands are find too.  Eaton Spring will be able to match the OEM specs, but are a more costly option.
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Thanks for info. Yes, the Moogs were to soft for my application. Tomorrow I will be removing the springs and arms on the 70 Cyclone(429). I found 3 bushings that were beyond ‘bushed’. So, I am changing all the front suspension. The springs had me baffled for a bit….I think mine are 0.67inch….will measure to be sure.
All rear suspension is new and good.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 72FordGTS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2023 at 2:13PM
Have you seen this thread:


He just rebuilt his Torino and got some new springs.  It might be worthwhile to check out his thread for info since it's the same basic car.
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