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GranTorinoMan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14-August-2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 920 |
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I chose Hooker MaxFlow because they rate near the top for HP/TQ and are quiet on the street until you punch it.
Edited by GranTorinoMan - 07-September-2009 at 4:03AM |
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crispy23c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Yeah, but how do they sound? You like them?
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occupant ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23-October-2006 Location: Lawton, OK Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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I like the sound of Magnaflows better than Flowmasters on Ford 4.6 engines. I bet the sound of a 302 or 351 would be better. And they do allow more power although a small amount. I have not heard the Hooker mufflers yet. I would definitely like a calm sound below 2000-2400rpm but above that I want to hear Classic American Muscle V8 sound.
Which is probably why I put glasspack mufflers on anything I change out (so far, a Crown Vic taxi, a Grand Marquis taxi, and an Aerostar minivan with a 3.0V6 and it didn't get louder than it was without a muffler at all, but it was better sounding than open pipes!) |
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08 Explorer EB, 195K, for the wife still looking for another something |
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ramair351 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08-May-2006 Location: west michigan Status: Offline Points: 1561 |
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i had an exhaust shop locally do an exhaust a while back on my 73, they installed the flowmaster 40 series backwards on the car. car ran like crap and had no power. took a week of screwing around to figure it out. i wonder what the dyno pull would have been before and after i switched them. probably 50-75 horses i would guess.
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-Pete
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crispy23c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Yikes. That scares the crap outa me, how some "mechanics" can't even put a muffler on right...
~Chris
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GranTorinoMan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14-August-2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 920 |
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Chris, I like the sound very much and I've received a lot of compliments on how my Torino sounds from guys at the race track. This video has the sound of my Torino and a Mustang at full throttle, I believe my car is making most of the noise that can be heard. http://www.dragtimes.com/1972-Ford-Torino-Videos-16441.html
I have a DVD of my car doing a burn out and an exclusive 1/4 mile run that my buddy borrowed, I'll post it as soon as I get it back.
I bought the largest case (truck style) 3.5" In/Out MaxFlow mufflers. My 472, Hooker headers, 3.5" X-pipe, 3.5" pipes front to back, under the trunk muffler location and 4" chrome tips all add up to make that killer sound. Edited by GranTorinoMan - 07-September-2009 at 5:28PM |
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crispy23c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10-November-2007 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Whoa, that does sound very nice. Thanks. Definitely post that when you get back!
~Chris
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Eliteman76 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 20-March-2006 Location: Nebraska, USA Status: Online Points: 4878 |
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I like the 70 series flowmasters.
I have had comments about how nice and mellow it sounds and silent it is.
Personally, I've been down the rattle your brains out muffler route, and I am glad as hell Paul Psquare75 traded me for these units. I have a street car, not a open pipe drag machine. I like having a conversation.
The most irritating thing is I can head my header gasket leaks like a mother right now.
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Psquare75 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Member of the Stroker Club Joined: 26-November-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4590 |
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It's funny, I had those 70's and I hated em...
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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Eliteman76 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 20-March-2006 Location: Nebraska, USA Status: Online Points: 4878 |
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That's because you are picker than me.
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Hey Z ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24-November-2005 Status: Offline Points: 269 |
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Thanks for the info on the mufflers. I too want a muffler that is quiet at idle because I live near a cop who goes nuts over my loud cars.
Looks like the Hooker or Borla XS are both good options although I'm sure the Borla's are more money. I had Borla's on my 700 hp mustang cobra and really liked the sound. Of course that was on a procharged 347, not a 460 like in my torino so the borla's would sound different.
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Hey Z ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24-November-2005 Status: Offline Points: 269 |
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Did a shop do your 3.5" pipes? I'm having a hard time finding a shop locally that can mandrel bend 3.5" pipe.
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Torinogts73c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1033 |
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I've got Flowmaster original 40 series they sound great but the drone at 2000rpm drives me nuts!#%&!!! |
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
"Never complain Never explain" Henry Ford |
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1975MontegoMX ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06-August-2008 Location: Chicago,llinois Status: Offline Points: 206 |
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Yeah, its BAD, i just turn the radio up ![]() George |
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Torinogts73c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1033 |
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See , that's why I had to upgrade the sound system!!
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
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occupant ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23-October-2006 Location: Lawton, OK Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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am I the only person in the northern hemisphere who LIKES the typical American V8 drone around 1900-2000 rpm?
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08 Uplander LS, 262K, broken again
08 Explorer EB, 195K, for the wife still looking for another something |
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GranTorinoMan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14-August-2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 920 |
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Did a shop do your 3.5" pipes? I'm having a hard time finding a shop locally that can mandrel bend 3.5" pipe. [/QUOTE]
My exhaust shop bought pipes that were pre-mandrel bent. Bring your car in so they can measure and order the mandrel pipes ahead of the install. The dreaded drone at 2000 RPM happens because of the limited space for a large case muffler under the cab floor. By removing the stock gas tank I freed up all that room under the trunk and moved the noise as far back as possible. The exhaust gas & sound shrinks 50% by the time it passes over the axle, so the high flow mufflers work better at dropping the sound to a repectable level and no cab drone.
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Torinogts73c ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14-February-2004 Location: Tucson Arizona Status: Offline Points: 1033 |
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That maybe ok for a drag car but I still like the use of my trunk for something more than a gas tank. I have had other turbo type mufflers on my car in 30+ years i have owned it and nothing was as bad as the 40 series flowmasters. I guess you have to have your own set of priorites.
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Gary 73 Gran Torino Sport 351CJ,17 Mustang Ecoboost,15 Jeep Grand Cherokee LTD, Ford Ranger parts hauler
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Eliteman76 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 20-March-2006 Location: Nebraska, USA Status: Online Points: 4878 |
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On the exhaust, the 70 series flowmasters are big mufflers...not going to BS any of you, it's a tight fit but they will work, but it requires some artestry to fit the pipes over the rear axle.
Easies way is order up a flowmast universal U-fit kit, there is an assorment of pipes. I know with the 2.5" exhaust, what little drone I do have is plesent and mellow.
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JimW ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09-December-2003 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 602 |
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On another shootout on a Buick 455 powered wagon running low 12's/high 11's the Borla XR1's did very well, as did the Hooker Aerochambers, and another straight through type muffler, and the x crossover did the best.. (as an aside, the X crossovers supposedly do not like a chambered muffler). Another high flowing muffler in that test was surprisingly the big case Walker dynomax, I belive under the "tough truck turbo" label..
I like my 12" XR1's, I liked the Flowie 2 chambers as well, but they were considerably louder inside the car than the Borlas, whereas the flows were quieter outside and under full throttle.
All of the clips below have the HKR 6126 headers, 3" Dr Gas X-pipe, 3" mandrel pipes all the way to the bumper..
Flowmasters + 460
Borlas + 545
Jim
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1976 S&H Gran Torino
460/C6/4.33 13.05@105.6 545/C6/3.56 11.52@117.8 More to come!!!! 463rwhp/495rwtq two tons of fun see it and hear it at: www.torinocobra.com www.st |
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GranTorinoMan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14-August-2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 920 |
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Andrew, great job using a shoehorn to fit those big mufflers, I bet the cab noise reduction was worth it.
Jim, big blocks create that distinct sound and your car sure demands attention with those XR1's.
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Eliteman76 ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 20-March-2006 Location: Nebraska, USA Status: Online Points: 4878 |
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Thanks. It took me a bit to figure out how I was going to get the pipe up and over the axle, but it was so worth it.
Some times I wish this thing was quiet, but I value having my {what's left anyways} of my hearing.
Now, when I get to my stereo install...that'll be something different.
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GranTorinoMan ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14-August-2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 920 |
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600 watts and 10 speakers should just about do it.
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