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Topic: From oil filters
Posted By: 72RogerGT
Subject: From oil filters
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 6:59AM
Just wanted to warn u guys regarding using the FRAM oil filters. They are the lowest quality oil filters I have seen. The inside is just full of cardboard. I have used them for my ladies car (since she doesn't drive it to the breaking point like I do) yet if I would've known they were so bad I would never have used such thing.

Roger.



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Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 10:16AM
Yep. Wix, Purolator are good. Fram=BAD.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: 72GTS351CJ
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 10:32AM
Wow!!! I been using them for years thinking they were like the best. Good info....

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72GTS Clint Eastwood Special                                     


Posted By: 72RogerGT
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 10:59AM
I just used on my wife's car since she drives really patiently. Yet I saw what they were made of and changed it right away. I use wix or oreilly brand which I believe wix makes them and I verified it's quality. On my charger I use Mobil 1 since it actually keeps my oil cleaner for longer time than any other filter even k&n.


Posted By: ilyes
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 11:40AM
Got a Fram ---> Got Framed lol


Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 2:10PM
I've used Fram for 35 years. I thought they were good, I may be paying more attention and switching now.

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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: Zebra 3
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 2:48PM
As company's and parent company's get bought and sold, the products that we once knew as being the best or highly rated become cut rate and sub par due to corporate greed over taking pride in a product....it's the sad truth and as long as we keep giving them our hard earned disposable income ,they will keep producing sh*t.  

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"I deeply admire the men who founded this country, and I think we ought to know more about them and how they lived and the force and courage they had.
Henry Ford. 1926
Brian Conn
'76 Torino


Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 3:10PM
Wix, Purolator, Motorcraft (Made by purolator), Donaldson

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Mike


Posted By: Dan the ranchero man
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 3:14PM
Honeywell owns fram now.


Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 3:17PM
The other filters on the shelf in my garage are Bosch Premiums. Anybody know anything about them?

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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: foote500
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 3:32PM
I had  From oil filter once, do not know where I got it Fram... Big smile


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Marc
German Shepherd Rescue
1967 Ford Fairlane 500, 390



Posted By: antlerfiend
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 3:38PM
Good to know. Thanks for the info.

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Alex
72 GTS (Morgan's Baby)
68 CJ Drag Car Clone
65 Mustang (first car)
77 LTD II (Drag Car)
78 Mustang II V6 4 speed


Posted By: 72RogerGT
Date Posted: 15-May-2014 at 5:31PM
Lol I just noticed it haha Auto correct on my phone sucks


Posted By: robot9000
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 6:14AM
Um, aside from telling everyone they suck, whats the problem?  How did you take it apart? What did you see?  

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1973 Gran Torino Sport
2010 Mazda 6
2007 Jeep Wrangler
2011 Damon Daybreak 35BD


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 6:27AM
Paper filtering element that degrades over time. Not as bad as JC Whitney's toilet paper insert filters, but closer than you'd like.

I run fresh Mobile 1 5W/30 oil and filters every 5,000 miles on my Titan, Civic and now the F150. They do well. However, I am switching to the Wix on those at next change.



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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: Psquare75
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 6:28AM
I would run a a mobil1 oil filter for another 3K miles than use a Fram.....

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Paul
77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD*
78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1
79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1
'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 6:38AM
I get told that 5K intervals between synthetic changes is severe overkill, but I never have an issue with the truck or the Civic and the same intervals were done on the F150 by my neighbor (bought it new). The Titan runs 80 on the interstate for thousands of miles every month with a constant load. The Civic sits for weeks, then driven around town or on the occasional trip. 2 extremes, Mobile 1 oil and filters forever, and the engines look new inside. Pretty good testimony, I think.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: 72RogerGT
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 7:01AM
Everything in the inside is cardboard and the craftsmanship looks like they pay kindergarten kids to put them together (Honestly I think they would do a better job) I happened to open one up and saw that my oil was being filtered by paper and cardboard. And the drain back valve sticks open. I'll try and open another one and open a mobil 1 I'm curious as to their quality as well.


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 7:34AM
I use the best Mobile 1 filter (they have different levels). I also use the Wix and Purolator in my other cars with fine results.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: DLW
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 10:13AM

If you are using a cartridge type filter, you need to use a FLEECE filter. These do not break down like paper filters. I don't know if there is a fleece spin on filter in the market place. I agree with 72rogergt, Fram filters are crap.

Regarding spin on filters, make sure to at least be sure that it has a anti drain back valve in it because it does make a difference IMO.
 
MANN cartridge filters are FLEECE if that helps anyone, and they are economical.


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 10:21AM
Fram have been cardboard for a long time. I always uses Wix filters, good filtering media and good construction. Lots of other good names though, Purolator, Motorcraft, Baldwin, AC Delco, Amsoil, Mobil 1, Napa etc. Many are actually made by only a few different companies (ie CARQUEST premium filters are Wix).   Do some searches on the internet and tons of people have cut into filters. Pretty much everything is built better than a Fram.

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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: OleDutchD
Date Posted: 16-May-2014 at 11:00AM
Fram oil filters used to be made by Allied-Signal in Greenville, Ohio (they used to be one of my accounts when I was still contracting...). A serious facility making a good product and people making a decent living with medium-scale union wages. They sold and moved the business in the late '90's or early 2000's. The cheap stuff bearing the 'Fram' label, nowadays, apparently bears no resemblence (other than the color) to the product I saw coming off the line twenty years ago. Sad...

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Just an analog guy stuck in a digital world!


Posted By: ilyes
Date Posted: 17-May-2014 at 2:02AM
5000 miles isn't much. People recommend 3K and that would be ok o an old engine, but new one have much tighter tolerances and run a bit cleaner, I would go for 7k if it was only hwy miles. The best way to know is to send a sample of your oil for test.


Posted By: Dan the ranchero man
Date Posted: 17-May-2014 at 5:15AM
Originally posted by OleDutchD OleDutchD wrote:

Fram oil filters used to be made by Allied-Signal in Greenville, Ohio (they used to be one of my accounts when I was still contracting...). A serious facility making a good product and people making a decent living with medium-scale union wages. They sold and moved the business in the late '90's or early 2000's. The cheap stuff bearing the 'Fram' label, nowadays, apparently bears no resemblence (other than the color) to the product I saw coming off the line twenty years ago. Sad...


Honeywell bought them up and moved all the assembly to china. (explains the poor quality)



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