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Topic: New Kid in town (not really)
Posted By: MonteCobra
Subject: New Kid in town (not really)
Date Posted: 25-October-2014 at 7:38AM
Hey there, so obviously im new to this forum, and new to Fords in general,

im 20 years old, attending collage to become an auto mechanic, im a 5 year apprentice and completed 2 out of 3 years ti'll i go for my mechanics license.

I own and work on my 73 vette coupe, a 70 olds cutlass s
a 69 dodge charger R/T and a 65 buick lesbre

I'm hoping to add a torino to my junk collection Specifically a 70 or 71 fastback

With that said im looking for information on these cars, and i assume i came to the right place (Fingers crossed)

i've seen 2 roofs for these fords and there mercury brethren, with different quarter glass i was told one is simply called a Fastback, And the other a 500 or "Brougham"?

Also after i learn a bit about them, im obviously looking to buy one... but not a good one (wheres the fun in that?) im looking for a shell, no glass no interior, no front clip no trunk lid... but it would be nice to have doors to be honest. it would be nice to get a roller on junk suspension, but preferably no engine or trans.

if these pictures work this is my charger before and current state, has a big block a viper 6 speed

but yeah im going for a mad max vibe with this and the torino (Think american v8 interceptor)

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100171.0;attach=194642;image

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100171.0;attach=225751;image



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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 25-October-2014 at 7:13PM
welcome! i have a 74 vette coupe as well as many cars. you've come to the right place, a bunch of good guys here!


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 12:25AM
Thanks! And nice vette, just for the sake of speading the word, have you heard of "corvetteimage's" chrome bumper conversion for 74-82 vettes? its a new rear bumper that transforms the car to look more like a 68-73!

Anyway Back to torinos

im looking for one, but i dont know what prices to expect, i dont know how rare these cars are and more importantly what chassis are they based on, i was told they have alot in common with a similar year mustang, but how much truth is there in that? How easy is it to find parts, new or used.

also its the entire rear 1/3 (from the doors back) different on a Fastback, than on a 500? Did mercury make asthing with the fastback roofline?

i found a really solid, fairly complete 70 500 version for 600$ its nice and close to home so its tempting, but do i still have a chance of finding a Fastback?

Thanks!


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 6:37AM
Welcome, ...


edit; I missed the 70-71 detail of what you are hunting. All I know about those is that they are unibody as John says, and share some things with Mustangs.


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000 rpm 351 stroker
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 7:00AM
All the 70-71 2 door torinos are a fastback design, but the sportsroof models are even flatter and have a spoiler built into the trunk lid and quarter extensions. It looks like the cars are completely different behind the doors.


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"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD
How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds?


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 7:49AM
allen, no i haven't heard of that vette chrome bumper kit, my vette is done, but i'll check it out! pm me the web site or post their link. i'm not that familiar with the 70-71's but i do know they are unibody cars ,so check the under side good for rust and weak spots. i'd definitely go for the fastback Thumbs Up

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 10:57AM


http://customimagecorvettes.com/product/1974-1982-rear-bolt-on-chrome-bumper-conversion-cover/

^ thats the link to vette bumper johnny

So, anyone know the production numbers for the "sportsroof" models?

What about pricing? what do junkers typically go for? are they high dollar collectables? or unsung heros?


Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 12:16PM
the mercs of 70/71 only have one roofline.  its the same as the Torino formal roof of the same years.

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Mike


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 12:26PM
WELCOME to the Family!


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: legend onirot
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 12:34PM
welcome aboard



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malcolm
1973 gran torino sport (formal)... "Stacy Lynn"
1972 gran torino (formal)... "Mackenzie"
1973 gran torino sport (sportroof)... "Leela"


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 26-October-2014 at 2:35PM
Thanks for the welcome guys, If anyone knows of an old parts car anywhere please let me know, if i don't buy it i'd atleast want to know what the average asking price is!


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 1:32AM
Welcome!


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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 8:57AM
I went hunting for a torino old school style today, i hit up a local junkyard and found 2, a hardtop and a fastback, and got a first hand look at the differences.....

Also was heartbroken at their condition










This one is by far in the best shape.. but not a fastback :(





Posted By: Billy C
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 9:20AM
Welcome to the forum and welcome to Ford family. You are in the right place. I'm 24 and have had my 72 Torino since I was 19. I truly love it. 

I'd say under $1000 would be a good price for a solid 70-71 rust free roller shell with minimal interior before all the paperwork and transportation.  They are rare cars but they are out there and have very slick styling for sure.

How wild are you planning to go with it? What are your expectations for the car? I see a cage in the charger and the Viper T56 is no joke.

The 70-71 Torinos are unibody, rear leaf spring cars. They have pretty weak brakes and suspension from the factory by today's standards, mainly because tires have changed so much. I don't know if any parts are interchangeable from the same generation mustang platform but Ford usually did that for mass production so it wouldn't be a surprise. Regardless, I wouldn't mind having one someday too.



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-Billy Conturo


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 9:38AM
Thanks Billy,
Ever seen Mad max 2 the road warrior? Yeah well my goal is to find a fastback torino, hack on a 71-73 mustang front clip, cut out the rear an put a scratch tail panel and use a 68-70 charger rear bumper,

might get some authentic XB Falcon taillights from a friend in australia, but im sure i could find an american alternative.

basically.. i don't need a nice car to start with, everythings going to get cut, and more importantly, Everything will be rough, rusty and dented

honestly, if that green fastback pictured was on my driveway, i would be very happy with that as a starting point, but that things sat there since '75 and the engines still in it, if i move it, it might fold up on itself.. but ill see..


Posted By: Billy C
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 9:52AM
Originally posted by MonteCobra MonteCobra wrote:


might get some authentic XB Falcon taillights from a friend in australia, but im sure i could find an american alternative.

Or just have your friend crate up an entire XB and send it over here Big smile. You'd be the king of bad-ass!!!!!  But I guess you couldn't push it to 11 and chance crunching it then because it would be too rare.


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-Billy Conturo


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 10:23AM
Originally posted by Billy C Billy C wrote:

Originally posted by MonteCobra MonteCobra wrote:


might get some authentic XB Falcon taillights from a friend in australia, but im sure i could find an american alternative.


Or just have your friend crate up an entire XB and send it over here <img src="smileys/smiley4.gif" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />. You'd be the king of bad-ass!!!!!  But I guess you couldn't push it to 11 and chance crunching it then because it would be too rare.


Already requested that :D... Unfortunately they only ever made about 100000, and ONLY about 24000 were coupes, the rest for 4 doors, wagons, and pick up trucks.


Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 11:56AM
Welcome to the forum

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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 1:07PM
allen, i know where there are a few, but i'm thinking they are in similar shape as the ones you just posted, plus they are in oregon. i plan on going back over there for a few parts some day i'll look, but don't hold your breath! i posted a few pics of that place early on in the junk yard photo thread.


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 1:19PM
Thanks!, That green one is only 30 minutes away from me, i love it, its perfect for what im doing, i'm just puzzled at how to get to it, theres about 200 tons of cars surrounding it, and again, i think it might snap if i attempt to move it.. still i haven't given up on it.


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 1:24PM


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more pictures, cause who doesnt like pictures?


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 27-October-2014 at 1:33PM
right! pics Thumbs Up post a couple of pics of your other cars!


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 28-October-2014 at 9:47AM
ill get some pics of them when it isn't pouring rain!

Small update, i spoke with the junkyard owners brother today (noone was there when i first went) i asked him about the car, and ofcourse he doesn't even know which one im talking about (theres about 4000 vintage cars there, no joke) but hey said "yeah if we can get a Forklift to it there shouldn't be a problem to get out" but ill have to talk to the owner on saturday., pretty excited, even though its the worst car i've ever fallen inlove with


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 28-October-2014 at 1:16PM
i've had a couple of cars like that, i just had to have them!


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 29-October-2014 at 4:37AM
You can see there's frame rail missing in the engine bay picture.

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Mike


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 29-October-2014 at 9:24AM
I know, but im not concerned, my plan is to stick it on a truck frame, so original rails are not important.


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 30-October-2014 at 1:38AM
Truckino?

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 30-October-2014 at 2:36AM
Wasn't that called a Ranchero?


Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 30-October-2014 at 7:39AM
Originally posted by MonteCobra MonteCobra wrote:

I know, but im not concerned, my plan is to stick it on a truck frame, so original rails are not important.


What truck chassis though, a Bronco II, Explorer, old Bronco etc?


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Don
73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000 rpm 351 stroker
73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later.
92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 30-October-2014 at 3:38PM
Whatever i can find in the yard


Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 02-November-2014 at 2:24AM
Sounding like a great project, probably too ambitious for my blood. I think we all at one point or another have come across a car that we fall in love with and upon further investigation, we realize we have to walk away from it with a tiny tear in our eye knowing in our mind that it was simply too far gone. Now, I'm not saying this is the same with you here. I'm just saying to be careful and realistic in hunting for your project. Only you know what you can handle and what might be over your head. This sounds like a great project and I for one, am very much looking forward to your project thread. 
Also, don't worry about you being new to FoMoCo. Several of us on here (hence my screen name) are also into other makes. Each manufacturer has their own idiosyncrasies and we can walk you through any Ford specific issues you run across (like GM vs Ford engine cylinder numbering.) There are some guys on here that will only drive Fords and hate GM products. But they don't hate the people who drive them (but be prepared for some light ribbing, lol.) Personally, my current project is an old Ford truck. The love of my life that sits in my driveway is a Chevy truck and my daily driver is a Dodge truck or a Victory motorcycle.  Somehow they put up with me...lol
Keep posting your progress and when you get your car, start a project thread with lots of pics. Keep the wheels down, the rubber burning, and the gas flowing.Big smile


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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 03-November-2014 at 3:13AM
Thanks man

Yeah its ambitious but im have a pretty decent plan,

i bought the shell so far.

cut the front end off, engine, steering and all

next step is to brace it and lift it and stick it on a truck frame with a similar wheelbase

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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 03-November-2014 at 3:41AM
wow! not much left of that poor car. start a build thread, keep us updated!


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 03-November-2014 at 6:09AM
All lost souls need savingEmbarrassed

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JT, USAF Ret./Architect
1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy"
1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty"
1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia"
2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude"
2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven"


Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 03-November-2014 at 10:29AM
In picture 3, you can see a rust hole in the differential while looking thru the hole that used to be the trunk floor...WOW!

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"What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind."
Randy
1979 T-Bird
2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD
How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds?


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 03-November-2014 at 11:19AM
Originally posted by Big Bird Big Bird wrote:


In picture 3, you can see a rust hole in the differential while looking thru the hole that used to be the trunk floor...WOW!


Ya know? When i saw that i was thinking.... Damn...

anyway what kind of axle was that? a 9" or 8"?


Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 04-November-2014 at 3:16AM
Same here. Those are built with thick steel, so ...WOW.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino       
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)


Posted By: gpd294
Date Posted: 04-November-2014 at 4:01AM
Originally posted by MonteCobra MonteCobra wrote:

[QUOTE=Big Bird]
In picture 3, you can see a rust hole in the differential while looking thru the hole that used to be the trunk floor...WOW!


It may have been Power by FORD, but it was eaten up by MOTHER Earth! Dead

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Carlos....1975 Gran Torino Squire Station Wagon restored to look like a 1973 Torino Station

Wagon my Dad bought new from McAnary Ford on June 6, 1973 in Gary,Indiana


Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 04-November-2014 at 8:39AM
I love your ambition!
I will cheer you on from the sidelines/peanut gallery but DAMN that thing is WAY FAR GONE!
even getting it free it would cost you a whole lot more to repair it than if you spent a little money on a more decent starter car.
 


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Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME!
1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae"
97 Suzuki Intruder 1400
US Army Retired


Posted By: MonteCobra
Date Posted: 04-November-2014 at 10:41AM
Yeah, like i mentioned earlier its going to be a tribute to the mad max XB falcon from the "Road warrior" so its perfect, im currently looking for a truck frame to stick it on

Found some fenders and doors for it, off of 5 other torinos in the yard, 2 4 door sedans and 3 hardtops,

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One of the junkyard owners came by... i couldn't tell if he was impressed or stunned out of confusion



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