INFO: Headers what fits what!
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Topic: INFO: Headers what fits what!
Posted By: Regul8r
Subject: INFO: Headers what fits what!
Date Posted: 09-March-2015 at 3:01PM
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Here is a sticky thread for all the info on Headers! Tell us what YR, Motor, Tranny and THEN what headers (Make, model, part # etc...) you have! ------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
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Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 09-March-2015 at 3:05PM
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72, Gran Torino, 302, C4 80s/90s Stock Mustang GT Headers, had to grind the flange a little to slip by the gear box. ------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: OleDutchD
Date Posted: 10-March-2015 at 12:37PM
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'72 Torino. 351W, C6 auto (the deal breaker for many headers), floor shifter & power steering... FPA 1-5/8" x 1-3/4" stepped long-tubes w/ 3" collectors. Originally patterned up in/for a '68 Mustang for a 351W/C6 swap. Passenger side goes in from above, driver side goes in from underneath. No need to unbolt or move anything. Clears tranny by a mile and collectors do NOT hang down. Actually had to roll the exhaust down a bit, after the collectors, to clear the humps in the tranny cross member. ------------- Just an analog guy stuck in a digital world! |
Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 10-March-2015 at 6:03PM
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74 torino, 351W, AOD auto, JBA #1653S headers. both go in from the top,great steering box clearance, passenger side had to grind a little of the aod bellhousing by the top starter bolt for anti rattle/vibration purposes (fmx or c-4 should be fine) drivers side had to make two small dings in the bottom of the #1 tube to clear the motor mount bolts/poly lock nuts(i'm using prothane motor mounts (may not be an issue with stock style mounts as they have rivets instead of large thick lock nuts) pics in my build thread: http://forum.grantorinosport.org/johns-74-sh-clone-build-thread_topic10024_page2.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/johns-74-sh-clone-build-thread_topic10024_page2.html ------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
Posted By: GranTorinoSport
Date Posted: 11-March-2015 at 2:04AM
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75 Sport, 521 (big block), C6, PS. Hooker 6126 ceramic coated. Fits about as good as it gets. Touches the steering gear, engine must be partially out to install the haeders and to replace the driver side gasket. Had to put heat wrap on transmission cooling lines, and I should put some heat wrap on the steering gear. Some say part of the steering linkage may hit, but I have not had that problem. ------------- Scott Eklund Webmaster |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 11-March-2015 at 4:53AM
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73 Brougham, Hedman long tubes, 351c, C4 auto, soon to be toploader.....will see if these still fit after! |
Posted By: robot9000
Date Posted: 12-March-2015 at 6:21AM
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73 351W FMX PS/PB. Summit Racing headers. Went in from top and no issues at all!! Hooked up to custom 2.5 in dual with H pipe. ------------- 1973 Gran Torino Sport 2010 Mazda 6 2007 Jeep Wrangler 2011 Damon Daybreak 35BD |
Posted By: Regul8r
Date Posted: 14-March-2015 at 3:20AM
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Please include part #s on your threads. That will greatly help! Thanks. ------------- Carl Corey (Moderator/Event Coordinator) Contact ANYTIME! 1976 Ford Elite "Lola Mae" 97 Suzuki Intruder 1400 US Army Retired |
Posted By: lynchster
Date Posted: 18-March-2015 at 1:58PM
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Anyone using long tube headers that actually clear the linkage with a 351C and top loader in the 72 - 76? ------------- Chuck 72 Gran Torino Sport 13 Taurus SHO "Mr Pig" |
Posted By: 72GTS351CJ
Date Posted: 18-March-2015 at 2:05PM
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F.P.A. ------------- 72GTS Clint Eastwood Special |
Posted By: steelerman1969
Date Posted: 27-April-2015 at 3:28AM
| I have had NO luck with headers on my 1973 GTS, running a 351C 4V heads and intake with a C6 transmission.....any ideas ? |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 30-April-2015 at 7:02AM
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I am curious what the difference in flow is for a factory SBF exhaust manifold v/s a Ford "Shorty" and the difference in flow between the "Shorty" and a full long tube header. Of more importance would be general power differences (both real and perceived). ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: galvarado
Date Posted: 18-September-2017 at 4:54PM
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I realize this thread is a couple years old, but I just wanted to add another header option. I don't know if anyone has used these for this application. 1976 Gran Torino, 351W, C6, and I used Doug Thorley THY-268-1-C. The driver side collector had to be ground down a bit due to the Ford steering gear. Perhaps a Saginaw gear affords more room, but it clears after a little work with the Ford gear. Both sides dropped in from the top with loads of room on the passenger side. Passenger side clears the starter with plenty of room. No more heat soak. And no more cooking the fuel line on the driver side. |
Posted By: galvarado
Date Posted: 21-September-2017 at 11:28AM
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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 22-September-2017 at 2:14PM
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always good to keep up on header fitment because availability is always changing usually not for the better  ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 27-June-2018 at 11:30AM
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'76 Gran Torino 460 floor shift - CRITES using factory mounts. $495.00 Passenger side collector was tight to C6 pan but Crites made me a new one to kick it away from the transmission. http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/2016/09/drivetrain-installation.html" rel="nofollow - http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/2016/09/drivetrain-installation.html http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/2017/02/details-63.html" rel="nofollow - http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/2017/02/details-63.html They are individual 2" tubes with a slip fit, 3 1/2" collector, so installation is pretty easy... Harder getting the collectors on that installing the tubes!!!
-------------  TV 2M8O OUT JOE 1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 05-July-2018 at 10:52AM
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Below is some detailed information from aquartlow, Todd, sent me on installing Hooker Super Comps 6126's for a Big Block Ford. https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6126-1hkr/overview/" rel="nofollow - https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6126-1hkr/overview/
------------- Vince 1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car GTS.org Admin |
aquartlow wrote:Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 08-July-2018 at 11:54AM
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Here is some information from the Torino Kid on Hooker Super Comps 6125 headers. These are installed on a 351M that was installed in a GTS he bought. This would be the same fitment for a 400 engine since it is externally identical to a 400. For more information, see the original thread here: http://forum.grantorinosport.org/topic16828_post184426.html#184426" rel="nofollow - http://forum.grantorinosport.org/topic16828_post184426.html#184426
------------- Vince 1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car GTS.org Admin |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 08-July-2018 at 12:51PM
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Good pics above, but just remember, if your GTS has the Saginaw steering gear there will be extra clearance due to it's smaller size. ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: GranTorinoMan
Date Posted: 20-July-2018 at 3:08AM
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72 GTS 472 BBF, C6 Auto, Standard Steering. 6126 Hookers clear everything in the engine bay. Collectors fire right into the factory transmission mount, so I modified mine and reinforced it with metal bottom plates to minimize flex. https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6126-1hkr/overview/" rel="nofollow - https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hok-6126-1hkr/overview/ |
Posted By: jbach72gts
Date Posted: 25-October-2018 at 5:59AM
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72 GTS 351C 2V C4 Column shifted. Power steering. Power brakes. A/C. Hooker Comp 6915-1HKR I went with the 4v headers bc I'll be installing 4barrel heads in the spring. Because the description did not say "Gran Torino" I called their tech who said they'd fit. These went right in from the bottom. Literally took 10 minutes each to squirrel them into place. No special bracket needed for ps pump. I have not finished connecting the collectors to the H pipe yet, but do have all the parts and hope to finish this weekend. (Also doing a Edelbrock 2v 4brl intake and carb swap) Eyeing the passenger side it seems one of the tubes may be a bit close to the idler arm but I won't know if it hits until I get it running. https://www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/all_headers/parts/6915-1HKR" rel="nofollow - https://www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/all_headers/parts/6915-1HKR Jon
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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 25-October-2018 at 11:42AM
couple things in case you're not aware, that PN is regular Competition rather than Super Comp, 1.75" primary tubes vs 1.875". the PITA isn't the tube sizes alone but the shape of the tubes good news to hear they slide in w/o all the wrestling that the Super Comps for the same application require. also FYI the 4V flange ~shouldn't~ seal on the 2V head, but just right now i'm remembering that the 4V sealing bead around the port opening doesn't seal on the 4V head  maybe it seals on the 2V head better than the 4V, IDK ...  ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: jbach72gts
Date Posted: 25-October-2018 at 12:19PM
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Edited Thank you. They look like they'll seal. |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 25-October-2018 at 12:46PM
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after too many years of trying to seal Super Comps on 4V heads i took a real close look at all of it, turns out Australian 2V heads have enough meat around the port to seal a 4V header but US 2V's leave a side open. the gasket lasts a little while but it's unsupported and burns through. i ended up making a set of plates to help support the gasket. i traced the inside of a 2V gasket and the outside of a 4V gasket, the bolt patterns are the same but the material around the port is not  ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 02-July-2020 at 1:41PM
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Just thought I'd update what I have for headers and why I went the way I did. 1976 Gran Torino with a 351W and an FMX transmission. Hooker 6124 HKR full length. They fit with some minor issues. 1st. The passengers side went up from underneath. Very tight but went in place and lined up nicely with the crossmember.  ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 02-July-2020 at 1:55PM
2nd. The drivers side was very different.I took the steering box and lines out. That gave me enough room to bolt up that side. Started the engine to burn off the paint. Removed the headers and painted them black with high temperature header paint. There was some tweaks to do. The pipe closest to the steering box needed to be slightly bent in. Replaced the power steering lines. I didn't trust the old original ones. ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 02-July-2020 at 2:01PM
3rd. The headers came non-flanged. After some debating with the custom exhaust shop, I went with a clamp system. Future transmission work will be so much easier to do with this setup. Its not pretty, but it works.  ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 02-July-2020 at 2:07PM
The exhaust is 2 1/2 inche pipe with Flowmaster 50s and 3 inch slash cut tips. With the built up engine, it sounds very nice. ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: TV 2M8O
Date Posted: 03-July-2020 at 5:56AM
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Steve, what tailpipes did you go with? Custom or something already bent that was 2 1/2"?? ------------- TV 2M8O OUT JOE 1976 Gran Torino S&H season 2-4 Clone Project Blog: http://tv2m8o.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 03-July-2020 at 4:21PM
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The pipes are custom bent. The whole exhaust system cost only 780.00 and change That's headers back ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Compton
Date Posted: 11-February-2021 at 7:39PM
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Looking at a set of 6124-1HKR headers for a 73 GTS..just want to check if anyone knows whether these will fit as they state 75-79...would think that 73 would be the same as 75 in the places that matter for headers? Have sourced a half price set but still pretty spendy so just want to be sure before purchasing Engine will be a Ford Racing M-6007-Z2427-FFT (351w based) with a TKX gearbox (hydraulic clutch) Will be running hydroboost and Borgeson SPA-T Saginaw steering box Any info would be appreciated... thanks...Greg |
Posted By: Greg73Oregon
Date Posted: 04-March-2021 at 6:38AM
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What part number for the Summit Racing headers? Thanks! ------------- GKF |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 04-March-2021 at 10:48AM
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I used them on my 1976. 351W With a/c. They do fit and my slightly modified Windsor really likes them. ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 04-March-2021 at 10:51AM
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Look into the thread 1976 Gran Torino fun. There's pictures there. ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: Greg73Oregon
Date Posted: 09-August-2021 at 9:40AM
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1973 Gran Torino 351W: Installed JBA #1653S. No problems - plenty of room. ------------- GKF |
Posted By: Greg73Oregon
Date Posted: 27-August-2021 at 4:27AM
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Note: With the JBA 1653S Shorty Headers, I installed the JBA 1653SH mid-pipe with H pipe. All fit well in a 1973 Gran Torino with a 351W.
------------- GKF |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 02-March-2022 at 8:12AM
| did you have issues with the oil pan due to the motor being 3/8” lower from the crites mounts? |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 02-March-2022 at 12:03PM
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On the Hookers, the passengers side was really tight. To make it easier, I replaced my motor mounts. There were no clearance issues. I have the engine out.....again.....! Different issue. I'll definitely pay closer attention when I put it back together. ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 04-March-2022 at 5:39AM
| what type of mounts did you go with? Thanks |
Posted By: Steve M.
Date Posted: 04-March-2022 at 12:21PM
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I used NAPA 1976 Gran Torino 351W motor mounts. They were back ordered for a while. Nice fit and went together easy ------------- Steve M. |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 04-March-2022 at 12:37PM
| thanks bro |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 26-March-2022 at 3:44PM
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Compton, what did you end up doing on your headers? And was the Windsor based Ford Motorsports engine set up with Windsor style heads or Cleveland type heads? I can’t recall and got curious what engine # you went with. -------------  Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Compton
Date Posted: 26-March-2022 at 3:48PM
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Still sitting in a box…went with the 427 (Windsor based) but it’s still on back order…hoping to have it in in the next 6 months Greg |
Posted By: Compton
Date Posted: 26-March-2022 at 3:49PM
| Windsor style heads |
Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 27-March-2022 at 3:19AM
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These cars have plenty of room around the engine/trans for headers, the bigger issue might be how low the collectors hang. I'm going to buy the Hooker headers that fit the Cleveland, and are detailed as for a 71 Torino etc. I like that they come in versions painted or coated. For $300 I will fit them and cut off the collector flange, and weld on a V-band flange(I hate the flat bolt flanges, they leak after any bump you hit). For that 427, what heads are on it? I hope it has high flow heads, it needs a good 325cfm or more(@.500 and .600"). There's a member of the Corral with a 88 Cougar with a 427 in it. He had a KB blown 302 for ages and moved to the big NA SBF. He ended up choosing an EFI system with traction control, and that solved his tire spinning issues. You might consider that possible need before selecting an EFI system, if you don't use a carb. ------------- Don 73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000 rpm 351 stroker 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 27-March-2022 at 12:09PM
Tasty choice!! The real problem will be keeping the local law enforcement on your good side and not being read the riot act  ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 27-March-2022 at 12:17PM
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Problem is, the 72+ has the steering box arrangement that differs from what I know of the unibody stuff. The main headaches are for the 72-79 full frame cars:
FPA makes the correct headers for our cars. I've heard they have the fixtures and actually make the Hooker 4 speed headers as well. Long time rumor, never been able to confirm that or not, but something that goes back to the old torino Yahoo and MSN forum days (Severely dating myself here). I had to modify my old Dynomax blackjack headers for my 351c 2V, and frankly...these $99 headers were bought 25+ years ago, and I am astounded they are still as solid as they are after 50K+ miles on them. I got two pairs of flowtech headers in 2020, as they came with an engine and transmission I took in trade. Never test fit them however, considering they state 1970-1974, I am hoping no issues with fitment but I know if I elect to use on my manual transmission applicatiion, I will have to cut and modify a couple tubes. ------------- Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed RestomodPondering: #99Problems |
Posted By: 72 RS 351
Date Posted: 27-March-2022 at 4:34PM
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I still have a new set of Headman 2V headers I got in 1989, when the plan was a 351C-2V build. Back then headers were painted, only rare high end stuff might be chromed or SS. Then too $100 was not bad for a common header part number. Things have changed. ------------- Don 73 Ranchero "Sport 72 front end", floor shift/console, planning EFI 7000 rpm 351 stroker 73 Ranchero GT 351C-4V &4R70W for sale later. 92 Lincoln Mark VII SE GTC, OBDII 347/4R70W |
Posted By: stallings.sean
Date Posted: 23-April-2022 at 4:35PM
| does anyone who installed long pipe headers have factory AC? If so, were there any issues installing them or does the AC stuff get in the way? Im debating taking my AC out and putting on a new intake manifold with 4bbl carb. Currently running stock 460cid 6.6L windsor motor with 2bbl carb, factory air, all original. Id like to get more power and eliminate some of the vacuum lines somehow. |
Posted By: rfox
Date Posted: 14-August-2024 at 12:25PM
| 72 gran torino, Q code 351C with a C6. any chance hooker super comp 6211 would clear everything? |
Posted By: MikeQuinn
Date Posted: 15-August-2024 at 7:38AM
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Try these guys: http://www.fordpowertrain.com" rel="nofollow - www.fordpowertrain.com
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Posted By: rfox
Date Posted: 15-August-2024 at 8:36AM
ive seen them and they look like they do excellent work, i'm just annoyed my only option is the most expensive headers ever.
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Posted By: MikeQuinn
Date Posted: 15-August-2024 at 11:03AM
| Yep. I got mine about 4 years ago. At the time, they were very slow. He said he could not get anybody to help. They are a work of art. |
Posted By: rfox
Date Posted: 15-August-2024 at 1:33PM
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thats why i wanted to know if those hooker ones would fit because theres an ebay listing for them and there only 600 what car do you have? same as mine?
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Posted By: MikeQuinn
Date Posted: 16-August-2024 at 3:36AM
| It is a 73 GTS with a 71 351C 4V and 5 speed TKO. It's been about 4 years ago, but he was a real nice guy to work with and he makes his stuff to fit our cars. |
Posted By: BobSch
Date Posted: 01-June-2025 at 3:08AM
| Hello, hopefully someone can help me out...I am dropping a 351W crate engine in a '68 torino gt fastback. It's a C-4 column shift with PS and manual brakes. I'm looking for headers that would fit, long or short. Thanks for your help! Bob |
Posted By: BobSch
Date Posted: 20-July-2025 at 4:27AM
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I have a '69 torino column shift C-4 351w, looking for headers that will fit. Any help would be much appreciated! Bob |
Posted By: slowride
Date Posted: 28-September-2025 at 6:04PM
| I'm putting a 545 stroker in my 1972 N code Ranchero. Has super cobrajet heads and C6 trans. |