3 speed v.s 4 speed parts
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Topic: 3 speed v.s 4 speed parts
Posted By: kversch
Subject: 3 speed v.s 4 speed parts
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 6:12AM
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Hey guys. Other then the transmission . Are there any differences is the parts on a three speed vs a 4 speed? I've seen a few three on the tree cars come up for sale recently. It's got me wondering about parts interchange for doing the four speed convention. ------------- -kevin- Brown 72 gran torino 351c 2v Black 73 GTS FB 302 Red 73 GTS FB 351C C6 trans 73 GTS FB Parted 73 torino 4dr, 302, FMX parted 97 F250 crew cab 7.3 diesel http://kverschtorino.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 6:57AM
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pretty sure the clutch linkage parts are the same for each given engine combo, small bell pattern vs large FE you're on your own now I wonder if the frame mounted pivot is always the same? ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: 75GranMan
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 10:50AM
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I've never have seen a floor shifted 3spd 72/73 torino, pretty sure all were 3 on the tree. I also believe the 3spd speedo cable entered from the left side of the trans? ------------- John 75Gran Torino 4spd  |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 1:15PM
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if the speedo is on the left it's the same cable & driven gear as an automatic, RUG 4 speed uses a longer cable & opposite rotation driven gear for a right side connection ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: kychevyguy
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 1:30PM
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The big difference is the three on a tree has the shifter on the steering column while the four speed has the shifter on the floor. ------------- JT, USAF Ret./Architect 1971 Ford F100 "Lizzy" 1971 Cougar XR7 "Kitty" 1984 Chevy Silverado "Sylvia" 2009 Smart Fortwo Cabrio "Lil Dude" 2015 Volvo XC60 R-Design "Sven" |
Posted By: GTW
Date Posted: 13-February-2016 at 2:35PM
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3 speed cars are rarer than 4 speed cars... ------------- Griffin 1973 Gran Torino station wagon 1972 Gran Torino 4 Door 1976 Gran Torino station wagon 1971 Maverick 2 Door |
Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 14-February-2016 at 2:30AM
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Clutch pedal and linkage are the same between 3 and 4 speed. 3 speeds were all column shift, so you'd need a column and tunnel hump to look correct. Reverse wire harness for backup lights to make those work. I'm not sure on the speedo cable. I'm not 100% sure, but about 95% sure driveshaft length is the same. ------------- Tom 1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver |
Posted By: kversch
Date Posted: 14-February-2016 at 1:24PM
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This is what has got me thinking about this check this car out. They have converted the three on the tree to a floor shift. https://binghamton.craigslist.org/cto/5407613874.html" rel="nofollow - https://binghamton.craigslist.org/cto/5407613874.html ------------- -kevin- Brown 72 gran torino 351c 2v Black 73 GTS FB 302 Red 73 GTS FB 351C C6 trans 73 GTS FB Parted 73 torino 4dr, 302, FMX parted 97 F250 crew cab 7.3 diesel http://kverschtorino.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 14-February-2016 at 4:44PM
he's sure proud of that 4 door |
kversch wrote:Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 15-February-2016 at 11:19AM
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Base 4-door with a stick. Don't think I like it at $4k... maybe half that. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 15-February-2016 at 11:57AM
yea has that bootlegger look to it, gator McKlusky tribute? lol |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 16-February-2016 at 4:31AM
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Other than swapping the 3 speed manual column out and cutting a hole in the hump on my base wagon, pretty much everything else is straightforward to swap in a 5 speed. Pedals are there, Z bar, etc. My preference would be to use the Fox clutch/pedal setup I have with a cable for smoother action, which I may do. That would leave me with a couple of complete sets of 4 speed changeover components for a future project. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: inenidok
Date Posted: 22-February-2016 at 4:09PM
| I just got manual steering gear box and pedals and z bar and linkage out of a 73 torino 3 on the tree |