INFO: Big Block Motor mounts
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Forum Name: Big Block Engine Forum
Forum Description: 429 and 460 engines
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Topic: INFO: Big Block Motor mounts
Posted By: carl3oo6
Subject: INFO: Big Block Motor mounts
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 5:05AM
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Hi all, I have a 76 gran Torino. Came with a 351 Windsor . As of now the big 460 is being built. I ordered a set of big block mounts from Dearborn. They look to be quality mounts. The instructions say to drill out where the Mounts go. has anyone ever done this? Any photos would be greatly appreciated. Also soon to be ordering up the six speed manual transmission. I should apologize to all for not posting pictures of the build , I've done quite a bit. |
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 5:32AM
well then you need to start a thread and catch up on the pics  
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 8:27AM
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Sounds like those aren't the right mounts if you have to drill a hole, they may "work" but is the engine really located properly in the chassis? |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 9:36AM
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The Dearborn mounts are actually Crites ones with a marked up price ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 9:47AM
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Something's not Kosher with those mounts. Should be no drilling involved. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 9:57AM
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they should be a direct drop in ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 11:21AM
 These are what Crites/Dearborn mounts are supposed to look like.------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: aquartlow
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 1:01PM
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If I had to install a 460 and needed motor mounts, I believe I would look into build my own using leaf spring bushings. Something similar to this, would need to check clearances, but shouldn't be too hard. http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwir_tGYr-zMAhWM1x4KHWnmBjEQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pirate4x4.com%2Fforum%2Fgeneral-4x4-discussion%2F788272-custom-motor-mounts.html&psig=AFQjCNHqV3fU2yvM7GeAmoGvUzWEiC5OIQ&ust=1463961343304107" rel="nofollow">  ------------- www.supermotors.net/22468 Yeah, It's a Hybrid...It burns gas and tires. No matter how good she looks, somebody, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t. Beauty is skin deep, ugliness goes clear to the bone. |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 1:20PM
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I'd just buy the tinman fabrication ones if I was looking to chop out the old engine crossmember Was looking for a drop in solution when I was building the car though....got bored of the whole fabrication lark ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 1:36PM
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The Crites ones are pretty much the fullsize mounts with the ears cut off bolted to some brackets (the grey parts). All the load is on a small bolt that holds the two together. Realistically, you could use the fullsize mount by using the frame half of the fullsize mount and weld it to your frame, or attach it to a plate that bolts thru the torino chassis. Not a lot of sense involved in some Ford mounting schemes. They re-invented the wheel over and over. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 1:44PM
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I'm not a fan of the 3/8ths gap either side of the ears either....could have made it a lot better on tolerance same with the 1/2" space between the mount and frame top ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 2:32PM
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They were much cruder when they started years ago... As far as the ear gaps go, 74-up frame is wider, so the mounts are "loose" on the early frames. Cali-Johnny had to cut/weld his 72-73 performance mounts to fit his later frame. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 21-May-2016 at 2:45PM
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yes, i think the 74 was about 1/8 or 3/16" wider than the 73 ------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 6:01AM
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Stock mounts are still around to use, why not use what the factory did? |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 6:04AM
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try finding them at a good price ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: Power Surge
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 6:16AM
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Well, it's been 20+ years now, but I took a 460 out of a 74 t-bird when I was in high school and it bolted right into my 351w 75 Torino with the stock mounts. Are they not available anymore? ------------- Sal Mennella 73 GTS 351 CJ 75 Cougar XR7 73 Ranchero - 5.0 Coyote swap - in progress Past Torinos - 72 Gran Torino, 75 Gran Torino, 75 Elite |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 7:47AM
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None reproduced, and the donor pool is drying up. Crites is available, but leave something to be desired. Engine doesn't sit the same as factory, which means aftermarket header fitment is off. Crites does make headers to fit their mounts, but they don't fit anything else and they are expen$ive. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 3:42PM
They are easy to find, just have to learn to search. lots of people partin the 72-76 t birds and lincoln marks which all had 429 or 460's. I have a line on 3 sets of them which i'll have soon. not as expensive as you'd think either. |
Nuggets wrote:Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 22-May-2016 at 7:11PM
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Give me a price on the best set. If they're right then I can produce a few sets which are dimensionally accurate unlike the Crites ones ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: MrSmog
Date Posted: 23-May-2016 at 7:40PM
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yea i'll keep ya in mind when I get them. I'm waitin on the guy to start tearin his parts cars down. |
Posted By: Nuggets
Date Posted: 23-May-2016 at 8:34PM
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You don't even need to send me a set man, just a dimensioned drawing. I'll knock some up a batch at club rates if people want some As long as my materials are covered I'm happy to engineer stuff ------------- Barnaby 429 powered 73 Stripper.....no comfort, just noise! |
Posted By: DaleR09
Date Posted: 23-July-2016 at 5:06AM
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1976 Ford Ranchero 460 motor mounts, NAPA part #BK 6021288. $15.00 ea. Try them |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 18-February-2021 at 3:54PM
| These part numbers for motor mounts be good for my 76 Torino? Right side mounts D2LA-6038-BB. Left side D4SA-6B032-AA and another number, not sure why? D5OA-6B032-AB |
Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 19-February-2021 at 10:00AM
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From the Ford Master Parts catalog, it shows the following part numbers: Bracket: D3LY 6030-A (RH), D3LY 6031-A (LH) Insulator: D40Z 6038-J (RH), D4SZ 6038-A (RH) 1974-76 Insulator: D4SZ 6038-A (RH), D4SZ 6038-B (LH) Shield: D3LZ 6C038-A (RH), D3LZ 6C038-B (LH) ------------- Vince 1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car GTS.org Admin |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 19-February-2021 at 10:44AM
| man! Thanks, guess I’m gonna have to search further into this. I wonder if those numbers I’m looking at will also work? Not sure what they are from? |
Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 20-February-2021 at 9:55AM
I am assuming the part numbers you have is for the whole assembly, all three parts together. The parts catalog only lists them individually. However, you could always ask the seller to check the Ford part numbers on each of the parts. ------------- Vince 1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car GTS.org Admin |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 20-February-2021 at 10:23AM
| thanks! |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 20-February-2021 at 1:01PM
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Understand that there are several part #s for the mounts and several for the engine brackets. Later parts books will show the superseding numbers only. Mounts were a D2- part # originally, and they were superseded in 74 as a D4- number. The engine brackets were originally an earlier part used to mount 429 engines into a chassis that used a bracket and insulator to install FE engines. This let them share the insulator in the earlier chassis. This earlier engine bracket does not have the 3-sided well for the bracket-to engine bolts. These were bending, and were redesigned in 73 and have numbers starting with D3. Not sure of the part numbers for the earlier ones, but the set on Ebay has the older right bracket. I believe the originals were to put 429s into Mustangs, but not 100% wether Mustang or Torino. There may be several versions, as Mustang mounted the engines lower in the chassis than Torino. I do know that the full set of FE parts, plus the chassis bracket/knuckle will let you put an FE in a 66-69 Falcon with a little fiddling. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: CJJ
Date Posted: 20-February-2021 at 2:04PM
| wow great info!! Ya I just found Ford started alphabetical on their parts in the 40’s hence the D for 70-79 which I’m sure you already knew! Thanks for the help. I see a set on Mac auto parts, just not sure if they’d be strong enough for a 500hp 460?? |
Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 22-February-2021 at 12:21PM
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Just to further update this thread, here are the 1972 part numbers: Mounting Bracket (Torino and Thunderbird): D2OZ 6030-B (RH) D2OZ 6031-B (LH) Insulator (Torino) D2OZ 6038-E (RH) D2OZ 6038-F (LH) Insulator (Thunderbird) D2LZ 6038-A (RH) D2LZ 6038-B (LH) replaced by D4SZ 6038-B ------------- Vince 1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car GTS.org Admin |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 22-February-2021 at 1:30PM
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can you begin to imagine how many companies would spring up if there was a shortage of big chevy mounts? ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 22-February-2021 at 1:46PM
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Difference is that the Chevy mounts fit most of the Chevy chassis for a long period of time. The Ford mounts for the Midsize were used for 7 years on one chassis, and for the last two years only on a very few cars. Every chassis has a unique mount. (And every engine family) Yeah, i know, Ford considers the Lincoln Mark IV, V and 72-76 Thunderbird a different Chassis, but it's just a fat, slightly stretched Torino. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |