77 wagon frame
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Topic: 77 wagon frame
Posted By: torinojon
Subject: 77 wagon frame
Date Posted: 19-May-2018 at 11:29AM
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i was wondering if any one has put a 1972 ranchero frame under a 1977 wagon body.are the body mounts the same.i thought theres a difference in the body mounts location.i got a chance to get a rust free body and frame (not much more) to do the swap.let me no what you think...thanks ------------- http://forum.grantorinosport.org/uploads/3190/marti5.jpg |
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 19-May-2018 at 7:26PM
are the wheel bases the same? 72 cars had an extra body mount near the top of the rear axle arch that was deleted on the later cars, and the 72 ranchero frames had a pair of rubber bushings inboard on the axle arch crossmember but they only sit against the bed floor for support not bolted! just basically pads so that may not matter? that's about as much as i can tell you, unfortunately i scrapped the 72 ranch frame i had so i can't take any measurements off of it for you  ------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION |
Posted By: n2fordwagons
Date Posted: 19-May-2018 at 9:10PM
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What kind of '77 wagon? It would have to be either a 77 LTD II or Cougar, both of which are not that easy to find. Either way, when I had picked up a receiver hitch from a 77-79 Ranchero, I discovered that the back end of the frame of the Ranchero was different than my 76 Montego wagon, and the hitch would not work on my wagon. I'm assuming all 72 - 79 Rancheros are the same. And all 72 - 77 wagons are the same. Although maybe there are some slight differences with the 72 like John mentioned. At the rear of the vehicle, one of the frames is parallel to the ground. While, on the other vehicle, the frame angles up. I can't remember which was which (wagon vs Ranchero). I can look at my Montego wagon tomorrow to confirm. ------------- Jeff 72 base Torino (modified) 72 Gran Torino Squire |
Posted By: Big Bird
Date Posted: 20-May-2018 at 2:48PM
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Frames behind the rear axle are different. Ranchero and wagon mount gas tanks in different locations. Wagon had the cargo well or rear seat well and tank on the side. ranchero had a underbody tank. Wagon got a 5 MPH rear bumper with energy absorbers, but Ranchero was a truck and kept 72-73 type bumper. ------------- "What we do in full frontal view, is more honest than your cleaned-up mind." Randy 1979 T-Bird 2005 F-150 STX RCSB 4.6, 3.55 LSD How the Heck does a REGULAR CAB SHORTBED weigh over 5200 pounds? |
Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 20-May-2018 at 3:41PM
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the factory chassis manual should show top & side views of each frame with measurements ------------- 72 GT Ute |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 27-May-2018 at 3:31PM
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Interesting. I have held onto a perfect '74 Ranchero frame in case I needed one for either of my wagons. If they are different, to scrap it goes. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |
Posted By: Dan the ranchero man
Date Posted: 10-August-2018 at 10:53AM
| The 72-79 ranchero and the 72-76 torino/montego wagon and the 77-LTD II/couger wagon frame are all the same EXCEPT for the front bumper mounting on the 72 and the rear bumper mounting on the wagons after 73. There are some other small differences but the bodies for any of these cars will bolt right on to any of the frames mentioned. |
Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 31-March-2019 at 3:11PM
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Thanks for this info. I held onto the Ranchero frame and was going to cut it up this week, but I may hold onto it for the wagons. ------------- Joe 1972 Mom's Squire Wagon 1972 Torino Wagon 1976 Torino 1968 Cougar XR7-First batch 1972 Torino 460 1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous Popeye and Brutus (Rams) |