1972 gran torino sport 4spd with bench seat
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Topic: 1972 gran torino sport 4spd with bench seat
Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Subject: 1972 gran torino sport 4spd with bench seat
Date Posted: 25-May-2019 at 2:28PM
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I recently acquired a 72 torino sport 4spd and bench seat from factory wonder how rare this option is. Any help would be appreciated has 73k miles on it also its a Q code car
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 25-May-2019 at 4:47PM
welcome! ordering a marti report may give you a good answer
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:09AM
If it is a fastback 4 speed car , there were 2091 Fastback 4 speeds. I'm not sure how many of therm were bench seat cars, but at least that is a start for you.
------------- Tom 1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd 1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets seats, console, and floor shift 2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver
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Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 12:05PM
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Welcome to the forum! The best numbers we have for a Q-code at the numbers listed above. A Marti report might be able to break down the number that came with a bench seat. Regardless, you have a pretty rear version of the '72 GTS. I upgraded you to a full member, so post some pics when you have a chance. We'd love to see the car.
------------- Vince
1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car
GTS.org Admin
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:24PM
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thank you all i will post pictures asap just need to figure out how lol.
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:35PM
Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:40PM
wow looks pretty straight! more pics...
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:46PM
Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:55PM
Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:58PM
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very straight been in AZ whole life my step father was the second owner he gave it to me last year. Car hasnt ran in 15yrs but hope to have it going soon.
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:21PM
cool! it should fire up, all the parts cars i parted out sat that long and fired right off and ran fine
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:25PM
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im going to clean the tank and replace the fuel pump and starter
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:27PM
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: legend onirot
Date Posted: 27-May-2019 at 2:48AM
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welcome blue fox!!
great looking car.
------------- --------------------- malcolm 1973 gran torino sport (formal)... "Stacy Lynn" 1972 gran torino (formal)... "Mackenzie" 1973 gran torino sport (sportroof)... "Leela"
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:21AM
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ok guys I got the torino running after sitting for 20yrs now it wont move when in gear and clutch released where should I start looking for what is wrong common issues. All help appreciated thanks in advance
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Posted By: jversch
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 5:20AM
Blue fox 1972 wrote:
ok guys I got the torino running after sitting for 20yrs now it wont move when in gear and clutch released where should I start looking for what is wrong common issues. All help appreciated thanks in advance |
When you let out the clutch will it try to stall ? Id start with clutch adjustment and work your way back . Not a lot to go bad , gears in trans, Linkage adjustment. IS it going into gear. Its all mechanical .
------------- Jerry VerSchneider 1972 Gran torino formal roof H Code 1973 Gran torino fast back H code.
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 5:46AM
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all mechanical It doesnt stall at all goes into gear great i was thinking maybe slave cylinder i think i can bleed it. Idk for sure
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:26PM
hmm sounds strange... unless someone's changed it, it shouldn't have a slave cylinder! it's a "Z" bar and push rod system. it is a manual stick shift transmission right?
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:35PM
i just looked at your pics again... yes it's a stick! are you sure it's actually going into a gear? are the shift rods all connected? is the driveline connected? try all the gears see if it tries to move in any gear??? do you hear any parts spinning, grinding, anything?
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:45PM
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no sounds at all wont move at all in any gear was running and driving when parked before I got it Will bleeding the slave cylinder help?
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:56PM
weird... it shouldn't even have a slave cylinder if it's original it would be mechanical linkage to actuate the clutch!!! and if a hydrolic slave cylinder was dry or not working then you wouldn't be able to put it in gear with it running... it would just grind
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 4:22PM
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idk I will post pics of trans maybe tomorrow
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 6:12PM
ok that may help... basically you should have something similar to this under there if it's an original 4 sp top loader... shifter bolted to the side of the tail shaft housing with 3 rods running to the flat levers bolted to the shift shafts

------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36AM
Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36AM
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all the linkage is hooked up
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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 6:21AM
Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 7:42AM
Have you moved the car from that spot at all? From the sound of it, You may have either a broken input or output shaft, or a toasted clutch. I had a car stolen years ago with a 4 speed, and when I got it back(after only 80 additional miles on the odo!), the car wouldn't move under it's own power. Clutch was completely shot.
------------- John 73 Gran Torino formal roof 79 Thunderbird Heritage 79 Thunderbird Town Landau
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 9:40AM
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has only been moved on rollback towed.
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Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 11:19AM
If You can support the car completely on jackstands, try this; Looking at the thoughtfully provided diagram , look for the rod that goes to the clutch fork(7515 on the lower part of the diagram, coming out of the bellhousing). It should adjust like a turnbuckle, making it longer or shorter. Shorten it up by just about a quarter of an inch(yes, really). Start the motor and just let it idle, then put it in 1st and try to engage the clutch and spin the rear wheels, IDLING The engine. If they spin now, figure on replacing the clutch.
Also, rear jackstands positioned under the rear axle, NOT the frame.
Hope this helps!  
------------- John 73 Gran Torino formal roof 79 Thunderbird Heritage 79 Thunderbird Town Landau
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 11:22AM
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thank u all so much I will report results
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Posted By: qcode72
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 1:43PM
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have two 4 speed cars. one is a factor bench seat car. If you jack the car up,and put a wrench on the sh*t bolts on the trans side to check for movement.The trans may stuck in neutral. or the shifter may be sliding on the stock rods.They are are slotted.
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:32PM
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ok so I started the car and put it in 4th gear and got a very faint grind when I released the clutch it went away when I pressed clutch again. Maybe just need to replace clutch?
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Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:44PM
Clutch, possibly broken input shaft. Either way, your probably gonna have to drop the trans to find out.
------------- John 73 Gran Torino formal roof 79 Thunderbird Heritage 79 Thunderbird Town Landau
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Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:44PM
BTW, where you at in Alabama?
------------- John 73 Gran Torino formal roof 79 Thunderbird Heritage 79 Thunderbird Town Landau
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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:10PM
idk something weird going on there i'd check the things others said!!! also if you have a helper have them step on the clutch while you look under there at the clutch rods see it they move? you can do this without it running. then have them shift gears without it running watch the shift rods see if they are moving? with the stands under the axle.. set the e-brake with the shifter in neutral not running see if you can turn the driveline? if that all checks out ok then you may need to pull the tranny and check from there ...shaft or clutch...
------------- JOHN 74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE 74 VETTE CUSTOM 90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED 77 CELICA CUSTOM 75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED 79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED 75 VEGA V6 5 SPD 70 CHEV C10 P/U 68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36PM
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wont be off till Wednesday but will start sorting things out then. I'm near Birmingham AL.
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Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:42PM
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pic of the shift rods (stolen from Dan Wessman & Ranchero.circusUSA)
------------- 72 GT Ute
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Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 28-February-2020 at 5:56AM
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ok guys so think it's the spider gears in the rear and the clutch just going to replace all new. But I have a new ? Are there any new style mustang wheels that will fit my torino and film the wheel well. I like some of the new stock wheels just wondering if maybe the 2013 and newer or older mustang wheels would work.
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Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 28-February-2020 at 6:56AM
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Use a selfie stand and take a video of your transmission linkages while going through the pattern. Then watch the video. The shifter has an alignment hole to put a rod in so the link rods can be correctly asjusted. Hurst shifter?
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