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Topic: 1972 gran torino sport 4spd with bench seat
Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Subject: 1972 gran torino sport 4spd with bench seat
Date Posted: 25-May-2019 at 2:28PM
I recently acquired a 72 torino sport 4spd and bench seat from factory wonder how rare this option is. Any help would be appreciated has 73k miles on it also its a Q code car



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Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 25-May-2019 at 4:47PM
welcome! ordering a marti report may give you a good answer


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: 72sport
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:09AM
If it is a fastback 4 speed car , there were 2091 Fastback 4 speeds.  I'm not sure how many of therm were bench seat cars, but at least that is a start for you.


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Tom
1972 Gran Torino Sport 4Spd
1974 Montego wagon "GT" with GT hood, correct buckets
seats, console, and floor shift
2013 Focus 5 speed- Daily driver


Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 12:05PM
Welcome to the forum!  The best numbers we have for a Q-code at the numbers listed above.  A Marti report might be able to break down the number that came with a bench seat.  Regardless, you have a pretty rear version of the '72 GTS. 
 
I upgraded you to a full member, so post some pics when you have a chance.  We'd love to see the car.


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:24PM
thank you all i will post pictures asap just need to figure out how lol.


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:35PM


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:40PM
wow looks pretty straight! more pics...Big smile


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:46PM


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:55PM


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 1:58PM
very straight been in AZ whole life my step father was the second owner he gave it to me last year. Car hasnt ran in 15yrs but hope to have it going soon. 


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:21PM
cool! it should fire up, all the parts cars i parted out sat that long and fired right off and ran fine Wink

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:25PM
im going to clean the tank and replace the fuel pump and starter  


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 26-May-2019 at 2:27PM
 Thumbs Up

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: legend onirot
Date Posted: 27-May-2019 at 2:48AM
welcome blue fox!!  

great looking car.  


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malcolm
1973 gran torino sport (formal)... "Stacy Lynn"
1972 gran torino (formal)... "Mackenzie"
1973 gran torino sport (sportroof)... "Leela"


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:21AM
ok guys I got the torino running after sitting for 20yrs now it wont move when in gear and clutch released where should I start looking for what is wrong common issues. All help appreciated thanks in advance  


Posted By: jversch
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 5:20AM
Originally posted by Blue fox 1972 Blue fox 1972 wrote:

ok guys I got the torino running after sitting for 20yrs now it wont move when in gear and clutch released where should I start looking for what is wrong common issues. All help appreciated thanks in advance  
When you let out the clutch will it try to stall ? Id start with clutch adjustment and work your way back . Not a lot to go bad , gears in trans, Linkage adjustment. IS it going into gear. Its all mechanical .

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Jerry VerSchneider
1972 Gran torino formal roof H Code
1973 Gran torino fast back H code.


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 5:46AM
all mechanical It doesnt stall at all goes into gear great i was thinking maybe slave cylinder i think i can bleed it. Idk for sure  


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:26PM
hmm sounds strange... unless someone's changed it, it shouldn't have a slave cylinder! it's a "Z" bar and push rod system. it is a manual stick shift transmission right?


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:35PM
 i just looked at your pics again... yes it's a stick! are you sure it's actually going into a gear? are the shift rods all connected? is the driveline connected? try all the gears see if it tries to move in any gear??? do you hear any parts spinning, grinding, anything?

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:45PM
no sounds at all wont move at all in any gear was running and driving when parked before I got it  Will bleeding the slave cylinder help?


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 3:56PM
weird... it shouldn't even have a slave cylinder if it's original it would be mechanical linkage to actuate the clutch!!!
 and if a hydrolic slave cylinder was dry or not working then you wouldn't be able to put it in gear with it running... it would just grind


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 4:22PM
idk I will post pics of trans maybe tomorrow  


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 16-August-2019 at 6:12PM
ok that may help...
 basically you should have something similar to this under there if it's an original 4 sp top loader...
shifter bolted to the side of the tail shaft housing with 3 rods running to the flat levers bolted to the shift shafts
Lighting-rods-Heim-joint-w-Billot-Levers-Shift-Linkage-4-Speed-kits-All-Brand

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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36AM


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36AM
all the linkage is hooked up 


Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 6:21AM





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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 7:42AM
Have you moved the car from that spot at all?  From the sound of it, You may have either a broken input or output shaft, or a toasted clutch.  I had a car stolen years ago with a 4 speed, and when I got it back(after only 80 additional miles on the odo!), the car wouldn't move under it's own power.  Clutch was completely shot.

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John
73 Gran Torino formal roof
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 9:40AM
has only been moved on rollback towed. 


Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 11:19AM
If You can support the car completely on jackstands, try this;  Looking at the thoughtfully provided diagramThumbs Up, look for the rod that goes to the clutch fork(7515 on the lower part of the diagram, coming out of the bellhousing).  It should adjust like a turnbuckle, making it longer or shorter.  Shorten it up by just about a quarter of an inch(yes, really).  Start the motor and just let it idle, then put it in 1st and try to engage the clutch and spin the rear wheels, IDLING The engine.  If they spin now, figure on replacing the clutch.

Also, rear jackstands positioned under the rear axle, NOT the frame.

Hope this helps!Thumbs UpBig smile


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John
73 Gran Torino formal roof
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 11:22AM
thank u all so much I will report results  


Posted By: qcode72
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 1:43PM
have two 4 speed cars. one is a factor bench seat car. If you jack the car up,and put a wrench on the sh*t bolts on the trans side to check for movement.The trans may stuck in neutral. or the shifter may be sliding on the stock rods.They are are slotted.


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:32PM
ok so I started the car and put it in 4th gear and got a very faint grind when I released the clutch it went away when I pressed clutch again. Maybe just need to replace clutch?


Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:44PM
Clutch, possibly broken input shaft.  Either way, your probably gonna have to drop the trans to find out.

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John
73 Gran Torino formal roof
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: 7T9_Tbird
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 2:44PM
BTW, where you at in Alabama?

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John
73 Gran Torino formal roof
79 Thunderbird Heritage
79 Thunderbird Town Landau


Posted By: californiajohnny
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:10PM
idk something weird going on there i'd check the things others said!!! also if you have a helper have them step on the clutch while you look under there at the clutch rods see it they move? you can do this without it running. then have them shift gears without it running watch the shift rods see if they are moving? with the stands under the axle.. set the e-brake with the shifter in neutral not running see if you can turn the driveline? if that all checks out ok then you may need to pull the tranny and check from there ...shaft or clutch...


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JOHN
74 GRAN TORINO S&H CLONE
74 VETTE CUSTOM
90 S10 BLAZER 4X4 LIFTED
77 CELICA CUSTOM
75 V8 MONZA SUPERCHARGED
79 COURIER VERT. SLAMMED
75 VEGA V6 5 SPD
70 CHEV C10 P/U
68 MUSTANG FB CONVERSION


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:36PM
wont be off till Wednesday but will start sorting things out then. I'm near Birmingham AL.  


Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 18-August-2019 at 3:42PM
pic of the shift rods (stolen from Dan Wessman & Ranchero.circusUSA)




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72 GT Ute
   


Posted By: Blue fox 1972
Date Posted: 28-February-2020 at 5:56AM
ok guys so think it's the spider gears in the rear and the clutch just going to replace all new. But I have a new ? Are there any new style mustang wheels that will fit my torino and film the wheel well. I like some of the new stock wheels just wondering if maybe the 2013 and newer or older mustang wheels would work. 


Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 28-February-2020 at 6:56AM
Use a selfie stand and take a video of your transmission linkages while going through the pattern. Then watch the video. The shifter has an alignment hole to put a rod in so the link rods can be correctly asjusted. Hurst shifter?



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