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1968 VIN code for 428CJ: Q or R or what?

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Topic: 1968 VIN code for 428CJ: Q or R or what?
Posted By: WerbyFord
Subject: 1968 VIN code for 428CJ: Q or R or what?
Date Posted: 20-November-2020 at 3:56PM
I found this cool article, about a 1968 Fairlane 428CJ "R-code".


https://fordauthority.com/2019/11/this-1968-ford-fairlane-428-cobra-jet-is-one-of-22/#comment-518328%20" rel="nofollow - https://fordauthority.com/2019/11/this-1968-ford-fairlane-428-cobra-jet-is-one-of-22/#comment-518328

As you can see I commented that R-code meant 428CJ-Ram-Air, not flat hood.
All the Fairlane etc 428CJ cars for 1968 were flat hood, C6 cars. No ram-air, no 4-speed.

So I figure the VIN should be a Q for a 428CJ Fairlane.

But then I realized, Q was still the 428/340 7-Liter in 1968.
So what was the VIN for the non-ram-air 428CJ in 1968?
Did they use R for both non-ram-air and ram-air?

Maybe.
My shop manuals are printed too early to tell.

If so, 22 cars sounds like a small total, even if it's Fairlane only.

Anybody know how many 1968 (and 1969) Fairlane-Torino-Montego-Cyclones were built each year?

I know the Mustang numbers, those are easy, but the Fairlane stuff is harder to find.

And were all the 68 428CJ VIN's "R"?




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Posted By: schufitz
Date Posted: 21-November-2020 at 2:47AM
No Mercury numbers, but here's Ford info from another Torino site




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Dave
1969 Torino GT/351W 2V/FMX/Vinyl Top/Black Jade/Gold Stripes/Nugget Gold Buckets/Console/Racing Mirrors/AC/PS/PDB


Posted By: WerbyFord
Date Posted: 21-November-2020 at 5:00AM
Dave,
thanks - sorry I wasnt clear, I was trying to find the ** 428CJ ** totals in the Fairlane-Torino & Montego-Cyclone for 1968 and 1969.

The only cryptic notes I have are about 14885 total 428CJ for 1969 Fairlane-Torino, including 2323 Q-C6 cars and 754 Talladegas. Kinda vague.

I suspect that in 1968, there were far fewer.
I have down about 2550 total 428CJ in the Mustang+Shelby for 1968, which isnt all that many.
It seems the 428CJ in the B-Body was kind of an afterthought for FoMoCo in 1968, c6 only, non-ram-air only (maybe still an "R" in the VIN, that's why I asked) so likely very few made.

I hate to think it was as few as 22 - maybe only 22 FAIRLANES with 428CJ in 1968? 
Maybe more if you count Torino and Cyclone. 
Mustang numbers are everywhere but the B-Body stuff is harder to find.

Thanks for the effort.



Posted By: schufitz
Date Posted: 22-November-2020 at 5:08AM
Ahhh, gotcha.  Might want to check this book out.  Not sure if it lists stats, but have been contemplating getting it.

https://www.amazon.com/Cobra-Jet-History-Greatest-High-Performance/dp/1613253788" rel="nofollow - Cobra Jet: The History of Ford's Greatest High-Performance Muscle Cars: Kinnan, Rob, Rosenberg, Diego: 9781613253786: Amazon.com: Books

The 428 CJ was a mid-year option on the mid-sized Fords' so suspect numbers would be low on that year, especially Fairlane. 

This article references near the bottom that 660 428/C6 combos were produced '68 Torino GT's.  

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/stealth-cobra-jet-1968-ford-torino-gt" rel="nofollow - Stealth (Cobra) Jet - 1968 Ford Torino GT | Hemmings

Period brochures had the 427 listed as an option on the '68's, but thought I read of a strike or something that year and no 427 '68 Torino's are know to have been produced. (A 427 in a Fairlane could be had in '66 & '67, though pretty low numbers were produced).


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Dave
1969 Torino GT/351W 2V/FMX/Vinyl Top/Black Jade/Gold Stripes/Nugget Gold Buckets/Console/Racing Mirrors/AC/PS/PDB


Posted By: Chap7242
Date Posted: 13-December-2023 at 9:24AM
Does anyone know how many of the 22 still exist? I know of 3 Thank You



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