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Topic: Flywheel perhaps?
Posted By: Anderslober
Subject: Flywheel perhaps?
Date Posted: 03-September-2022 at 8:30PM
Hi forum. Since I have the engine out of the car atm, I can inspect everything. I am fighting with myself whether or not to totally refurb the engine with all new stuff!🤠👍🍹🍻

The flywheel has a few chipped teeth…..afaict, the flywheel is 164 tooth. (4sp/351cj).
What flywheel can you fellas recommend? I just want a standard OE flywheel.
I found a Pioneer flywheel over at Summit…FW-113. Reasonable price….
What ‘balance’ do I need? External, 28oz…..is my guess…please confirm. Thanks.
Lemme’ know…👍



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Posted By: 72FordGTS
Date Posted: 04-September-2022 at 2:36AM
The original flywheel is part number C6TZ-6375-C which was used on many applications for many years, including the 1972 351CJ.  The Pioneer website shows that FW-113 interchanges with Ford E8TZ-6375-C

https://pioneerautoinc.com/manual-tranmission-flywheel-3960" rel="nofollow - https://pioneerautoinc.com/manual-tranmission-flywheel-3960

NDP shows that E8TZ-6375-C is interchangeable with C6TZ-6375-C so it should be good.

https://www.npdlink.com/product/flywheel-manual-transmission/105321" rel="nofollow - https://www.npdlink.com/product/flywheel-manual-transmission/105321


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Vince

1972 Ford GTS Sportsroof - Survivor, One Family car

GTS.org Admin


Posted By: Yellosn
Date Posted: 04-September-2022 at 7:06AM
A machine shop can press on a new ring gear if that’s practical for your situation. When I had my flywheel surfaced I didn’t know it was a separate piece. The shop called and said they could just flip my ring and re-install to get on the “fresh” side of the teeth. I didn’t have any damaged teeth, just normal wear.

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Troy Emerson
Eugene, Oregon
1972 GTS 4speed


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 04-September-2022 at 8:42AM
Yes…I was actually contemplating just that. The clutch and flywheel look and feel good and smooth. No need to change them.
A new ring gear is easily doable. A ‘flip’ is the cheapest option. Free basically!👍 
My engine ran pretty good…I am just doing needed ‘basic’ service. Timing chain, oil pump, valves, gaskets, cleaning, painting, etc……I am nearly finished…just small items to go.
I live in Denmark……machine shops that ‘know’ these cars and ‘can do it’, can be counted on 2 fingers!


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 06-September-2022 at 10:17PM
My flywheel is smooth and nice. No gouges and very even wear(if any). I will reuse it. (Original FoMoCo flywheel👍🍹). I tapped of the ring gear…..very easy…..a punch and 4-5 taps around the ring and it came of.
I have ordered a new 164 tooth ring gear. The new ring gear will be heated and fitted.
I have cleaned up the flywheel nicely and coated it with some light oil. (To prevent rust while I wait for some parts) This oil will of course get cleaned off before install.👍
Now to make a clutch decision!🍻🤿


Posted By: Yellosn
Date Posted: 07-September-2022 at 6:54AM
I’m no clutch expert, but if you’re replacing your friction disc, you may want to get your flywheel machined to help with break in. Maybe even a good scuff with a disc sander? Of course, if you’re not replacing your pressure plate either it might not be an issue.

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Troy Emerson
Eugene, Oregon
1972 GTS 4speed


Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 07-September-2022 at 10:06AM
Do you have a pic of the flywheel face?


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 18-September-2022 at 7:18AM
Now I have something puzzling me. Rockauto is not listing the correct clutch flywheel kits anymore for the 72-74 four speed cars. 

I looked on pioneer and had to look under 1970 Mustang 351 (Doesn't say C or W) and got back:
https://pioneerautoinc.com/flexplates-flywheels-ring-gears/manual-transmission-flywheels/manual-tranmission-flywheel-4012" rel="nofollow - https://pioneerautoinc.com/flexplates-flywheels-ring-gears/manual-transmission-flywheels/manual-tranmission-flywheel-4012


PART NUMBER : FW-193

Original Equipment (OE) Part Interchange

OEM: C5AZ-6375K

My original Ford flywheel that I am still using has this cast and stamped on it:

Cast# C5AE 6380-E
Stamped# C7TE-A  


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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
Pondering: #99Problems


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 18-September-2022 at 7:20AM
Originally posted by Anderslober Anderslober wrote:

I live in Denmark……machine shops that ‘know’ these cars and ‘can do it’, can be counted on 2 fingers!

Sadly, days of automotive machine shops in the USA are getting slimmer as time marches forward.
Especially the shops that know 50 year old Ford V8's.


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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
Pondering: #99Problems


Posted By: Anderslober
Date Posted: 19-September-2022 at 8:18PM
Ok guys…Different route. The original flywheel was in great condition. The ring gear wasnt. 
I bought the Pioneer FRG-164N ring gear. It was a perfect fit! I cleaned the ring gear and flywheel mounting surfaces…..put the ring gear in the oven at max heat for 15min……and it just slipped on the flywheel…spun it a few rounds to seat it. Done. 
👍👍

 


Posted By: handsofstone
Date Posted: 20-September-2022 at 2:40AM
Well done.



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