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Topic: 4 speed research
Posted By: haw_y_n_merc
Subject: 4 speed research
Date Posted: 27-July-2009 at 6:51PM
Since getting the entire clutch linkage out of the '72 Torino, I'm thinking about converting my '79 Ranchero to this 4 speed. I'm installing a 429 into the Ranchero, and therefore my question.
The Torino was small block, and aside from the bellhousing, would I be able to get a big block Z bar to fit the Ranchero and this clutch linkage?
I see the holes in the frame for the outboard support of the Z bar, but I would need the bellhousing support and the Z bar itself. On the small block, the Z bar was supported by a braket attached to the bellhousing. Does anyone know if I would be able to find these? Has anyone done a big block 4 speed conversion?
If this even reasonable?
I also have two sets of buckets, consoles and the trans tunnel humps. So the only question is fitting the Z bar and linkage, I should be able to handle the rest.
Thanks, Andy



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Posted By: ramair351
Date Posted: 29-July-2009 at 4:32PM
you can buy a repro bellhousing pivot and Z bar from Perogie for a big block 71 torino, but you will have some modifications to make to adapt to the 72+ chassis.

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-Pete
1972 montego GT
1970 Torino cobra SCJ
1970 mustang mach 1
1965 Falcon futura





Posted By: rtgreen
Date Posted: 30-July-2009 at 2:52AM
I have researched this swap as well. I have a 4spd 72 Torino, but I wanted to put in a 514-520cid engine. I found that the best way to go would be a hydraulic setup from McLeod.
http://www.mcleodind.com/application_guide_pgs/HYDTOB_BoltOn.html - http://www.mcleodind.com/application_guide_pgs/HYDTOB_BoltOn.html
 
You also have to think about the headers. Hooker makes a 351-4v Super Comp header that fits a 72 4spd car. No one makes one for a 429 4sp car, because they were never made from the factory. If you go the Hydraulic route you can run headers for an Automatic Transmission 429 car and save money.


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72 Gran Torino Sport Q 4spd in Light Pewter Metallic

2012 Mustang GT (Brembo) 5.0, 6MT, 3.55s

1995 Bronco - 5.0 5spd.



Posted By: haw_y_n_merc
Date Posted: 30-July-2009 at 2:30PM
Thanks for the great info, and link. I'm not sure where to mount the master cylinder, but hoping that Modern Driveline will come up with something. Also, I think the Hooker headers for my '74 Montego would fit, with a hydraulic system. My Montego is big block.
Thanks again....Andy


Posted By: Eliteman76
Date Posted: 31-July-2009 at 6:03AM
You can get reproduction 4 speed parts from NPD's mustang catalog...saw a couple different ford 4 speed trans parts in I think the Year One mustang cataog as well.
 
I still have been wanting to get my hands on a 70-71 Chevelle Z bar setup. They look an awful like ours...clutch rod and all. 


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Andrew: Long time Torino guy and GTS.ORG admin



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