1972 GTS thunderjet 429 4v SWAP!
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Topic: 1972 GTS thunderjet 429 4v SWAP!
Posted By: SocalTorino
Subject: 1972 GTS thunderjet 429 4v SWAP!
Date Posted: 20-September-2011 at 6:50PM
| Hi I just got a 72 GTS FastBack with a bad 400 and I was wondering what parts would I need if I swap in a 1968 429 4V thunderjet? |
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Posted By: torkair
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 3:57AM
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You will need a set of motor mounts and exhaust it it is a complete motor.
------------- 72 Gran Torino "sport"- in progress 73 Ranchero GT- Q code-460/C6/3.25 open rear |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 9:50AM
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The motor is complete out of 1969 thunderbird. What motor mounts and exhaust do I need the ones from the torino or thunderbird? |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 10:38AM
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torino. ------------- Mike |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 11:18AM
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Will the stock torino 400 2V motor mounts work? |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 1:31PM
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nope. you need 429/460 mounts and block plates. ------------- Mike |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 1:59PM
| Where can I find them and how much do they cost? |
Posted By: madmaxtorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 2:04PM
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I have two extra sets. i would let one go 4 100 plus shipping. allan ------------- Allan Revelation 6:8 When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 2:41PM
| Any they are 72 torino 429 mounts with the plate too? |
Posted By: VorbottenO
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 3:04PM
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That is a good price for original Torino BB mounts... grab them. The other option (Crites replacements) are about $200.
What transmission was behind the 400? Planning on keeping it or using the Tbird C-6?
As far as exhaust, you can have the system fabricated by your area exhaust shop or you can try and find headers but expect to pay over $500 for them and another 2-300 for the rest of the exhaust.
Also, do you have all the brackets, etc... still on the 429? If not, many of your 400 brackets will not work and you will need replacements. ------------- Eric 72GTS-Ncode (429-477ci) |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 3:28PM
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that is a good price. a couple years ago i have a couple sets and sold them for mroe than that on ebay. I did this swap on a 73 ranchero. that 400 should have a C6 behind it. for exhaust, if what is on it is good, then any competantr exhaust shop should be able to mate it up. If i remember right, one side was good, the other side they had to cut the pipe and lengthen it a little bit.accessory brackets are easy to find on ebay. if the bracket thats bolted ot the p/s pump is the style with three studs coming off the top that fit into another bracket that botls to the front of the motor, you only need the bracket that bolts to the front of the motor as the bracket thats botled ot the pump is the same no matter engine size. the other thing is you will probably have to cut/notch out your fan shroud. 429/460 uses a different shroud. one tip here is to check out junkyards for the mid/late 70's town cars with 460's. the shroud is identical to the shroud used on the 72/up 429/460 torino's. your factory radiator will work too. just get hoses for a 72 torino with a 429.     ------------- Mike |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 21-September-2011 at 3:33PM
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So all I need is the motor mounts? Does my C6 on my 400 fit? I was thinking of using the stock 429 headers and having the exhaust shop make the rest of the exhaust. The 429 is all complete with A/C compressor too 
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Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 22-September-2011 at 12:54PM
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yes, 400 has the same bell housing bolt pattern as the 429/460. ------------- Mike |
Posted By: madmaxtorino
Date Posted: 22-September-2011 at 4:23PM
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The mounts I have are the correct ones you will need. PM me if you want them or need more info. I could post some pics but may be sat before I can post them. Mounts and plates! ------------- Allan Revelation 6:8 When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. |
Posted By: Ranchero Fan
Date Posted: 22-September-2011 at 4:48PM
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You[ll need the throttle cable from a 429/460 '72-76 Torino,Ranchero #D3OZ 9A758-C, 22 1/2'' long. As far as motor mounts & fan shroud go, mid seventies T Bird/ Mark lV will work for you. p.s. you'll need the kickdown rod if I remember also. Good luck on your project, & post pics. if you decide to take the project on. ------------- Brian 1973 Ford Ranchero Big Block. ''THE OTHER WOMAN'' |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 22-September-2011 at 8:34PM
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Thanks a lot guys for the info. Do you guys think I should dump the 400 and go with the 429? I will let you know on the motor mounts, PM you soon. |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 23-September-2011 at 12:04AM
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my 400 throttle cable and kick down rod worked on my 73. ------------- Mike |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 24-September-2011 at 8:00AM
Okay I'm gona take apart the 400 block to see if it has to be replaced. If it does the 429 4V is a go 
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Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 7:37AM
| Good news I found a 74 ranchero 429 at a local junkyard will the motor mounts and the other parts I need for the swap work from a 74 or does it have to be 72-73 torino? |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 8:00AM
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that will work! grab everything! ------------- Mike |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 8:30AM
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Okay sounds good! Thanks man. What's a kick down rod? |
Posted By: Ranchero Fan
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 1:27PM
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It's for your passing gear. It goes from the carb to the trans. on the left side. Your 400 part may work for you. Mine was never hooked up when my swap was done by the prev. owner. I found a 429-460 one, a few years ago but haven't hooked it up yet. ------------- Brian 1973 Ford Ranchero Big Block. ''THE OTHER WOMAN'' |
Posted By: Ranchero Fan
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 1:51PM
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Congrats. on finding the partscar. If it is a '74 factory big block it will be a 460 as '73 was the last year for the 429 in a Torino/Ranchero. Grab everything you can,and if it's a mid- late year production car it will have electronic ign. as the early production cars had conventional points still. I ran into that with my '74 Ranchero I had. I don't recall the production dates. Hopefully it is a factory bb car, and not a shadetree swap that someone did, like mine was. I had the 351 cobrajet throttle cable that wouldn't allow the secondaries to open, not to mention it wouldn't idle below 1500 rpm, they also used the fan shroud from the 351clev. that the fan was chewing up, among other things. ------------- Brian 1973 Ford Ranchero Big Block. ''THE OTHER WOMAN'' |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 2:30PM
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okay so all I need is 1. Motor mounts 2. Block plates 3. kick dow rod 4. fan shroud Thanks a lot for your help. It does look factory BB going to check the vin number to make sure. |
Posted By: Ranchero Fan
Date Posted: 25-September-2011 at 2:49PM
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I would suggest the big block coil springs, not the partscar springs, but new for the added weight of the big block. I used, new Moog springs for a Big Block A/C EQUIPT. car, to replace the 351CJ units that were left in mine after the prev. owner did my swap. ------------- Brian 1973 Ford Ranchero Big Block. ''THE OTHER WOMAN'' |
Posted By: mcford
Date Posted: 26-September-2011 at 2:59PM
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Accessory brackets. i left the 400 front coil springs in mine and it sat fine and drove good. Mike  ------------- Mike |
Posted By: carguy47
Date Posted: 12-October-2011 at 7:32AM
Hey, if you still have the BBF 429/460 mount sets, I would like to purchase one.  ------------- You have to build em to drive em! |
Posted By: 73Torino
Date Posted: 04-December-2011 at 3:02PM
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I would be interested in some BB motor mounts if you still have them as well ------------- 1973 base model Torino |
Posted By: madmaxtorino
Date Posted: 05-December-2011 at 3:55PM
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ILL still take 100 plus shipping for my extra set.
------------- Allan Revelation 6:8 When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. |
Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 06-April-2012 at 5:54AM
| Will the motor mounts from a 72 LTD 429 FIT 72 Torino? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06-April-2012 at 6:59AM
if they have the 3 piece mount that looks like this then probably,if they don't look like this then no
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06-April-2012 at 7:05AM
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what happened to the Ranchero you said had Big Block? did you wait too long and is gone or not what you thought it was? if you ever see other cars with the mounts above that are good grab all you can as these bring good money on ebay as they are not easy to find.I got lucky and found a 74-75 Lincoln Mark IV in the junkyard in Florida where I use to live and got near perfect mounts fro $20.I blasted and painted them and now they are like new.I'm glad I found them as I don't know if I can find any of the old cars where I live now or not
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Posted By: SocalTorino
Date Posted: 06-April-2012 at 9:01AM
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Yeah the ranchero was not a factory 429 it was swap in but didn't have the correct mounts. this 72 ltd has the factory 429 |
Posted By: Skinnys Garage
Date Posted: 06-April-2012 at 11:32AM
------------- Scott -'73 Gran Torino Brougham Past Torino's -'73 Q-code GTS, '76 Original PS-122 S&H, '73 H-code GTS, '73 Ranchero '71 Cobra 351 Auto, '70 351C Brougham 2dr HT, '71 351C Ranchero |
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