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1969 351w

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Topic: 1969 351w

Posted By: colonelsandersman
Subject: 1969 351w
Date Posted: 06-March-2013 at 10:47AM

My boss is willing to sell me a 1969 351w, he says its a factory 4bbl which means it would be a rare one year only 300hp 351w 4v. Does anyone know the casting number or marking number that might be on the block to confirm. It might not even be a 4bbl he hasnt looked at it in a while. Also, Is there any problem with aftermarket heads and intake for these shorter deck 351w blocks (1969-1970). Any idea what its worth, he'll probably let it go for 300-400 bucks.

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Posted By: Robbdtme
Date Posted: 06-March-2013 at 1:15PM

C9(xx) 4 digits for 69. Snap that puppy up. They had better heads and larger valves. I had one years ago and for a windsor it had serious balls! They were not made long and dropped when the 351c came into play. 69 1/2 if I recall correctly. Aftermarket stuff bolts right on but do keep the heads on it!

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Johnny cash Special 74-75-76 freak. 77 XR7. 78 LTD II sport looks pretty but poop 302 in it.

Posted By: colonelsandersman
Date Posted: 06-March-2013 at 2:40PM

How much do you think it's worth?

Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 07-March-2013 at 1:38AM

I had one in a '69 Torino GT. It was a killer engine that we ended up putting in a Mustang II. If it is a 4 Bbl engine, is complete, and no serious issues, I'd give $400 in a split second. I think the Windsor was the best V8 engine Ford made until the Modulars came into existence.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)

Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 07-March-2013 at 8:41AM

early 351W had a shorter deck height, 9.48" vs 9.5" for later years

later years are probably actually taller than 9.5" but that's the published spec

if you go to rebuild it 9.5" deck internals ~could~ cause trouble

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72 GT Ute

Posted By: colonelsandersman
Date Posted: 07-March-2013 at 9:36AM

He says, the engine is out of a 69 torino wagon, did they even come with the windsor 4v?

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Jake
1973 Gran Torino

Posted By: unlovedford
Date Posted: 07-March-2013 at 10:21AM

Yes, you could order them with that combo.

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Joe
1972 Mom's Squire Wagon
1972 Torino Wagon
1976 Torino
1968 Cougar XR7-First batch
1972 Torino 460
1989 BroncoII/Jeeps/Titanimous
Popeye and Brutus (Rams)

Posted By: Robbdtme
Date Posted: 10-March-2013 at 10:18AM

Hop on it at that price, Heads alone are worth more.

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Johnny cash Special 74-75-76 freak. 77 XR7. 78 LTD II sport looks pretty but poop 302 in it.

Posted By: colonelsandersman
Date Posted: 17-March-2013 at 4:30AM

Turns out its only a 2bbl which is rated at around 250hp what is this worth and what is the difference between that and the 4bbl is it just intake and carb? I had heard somewhere that compression ratio was lower too/

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Jake
1973 Gran Torino

Posted By: Rockatansky
Date Posted: 17-March-2013 at 6:49AM

anything & everything can be different between 2 different engines...

piston dish volume, flat top or even dome? chamber volume in the heads, valve sizes, camshaft, distributor calibrations can be & probably are all different

this started out as 'factory 4bbl' is there a chance the intake & carb were swapped out in the mid 70's during the gas crunch?

still a fair deal if you need the engine, of course getting it for less would make it an even better deal

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72 GT Ute

Posted By: colonelsandersman
Date Posted: 18-March-2013 at 4:52AM

If it is possibly just an intake swap from the 70s how will I tell are the casting numbers different?

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Jake
1973 Gran Torino

Posted By: Fast Freddie
Date Posted: 08-October-2025 at 8:07AM

69 351W 4V is 290 horsepower just saying.

Posted By: Fast Freddie
Date Posted: 08-October-2025 at 8:09AM

Yes they came in Torino wagons.

Posted By: RacerJames
Date Posted: 27-November-2025 at 2:16AM

There are no casting numbers on the outside of the engine which I'm aware of, but internally the 4V had forged flat top pistons. If the pistons are dished it's not a factory '69 4v. The factory '69 4V Windsors had 10.5:1 compression.

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