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rough_72
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Topic: thoughts on Torino talladegaPosted: 12-May-2015 at 8:43AM |
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I was just wondering what is yalls thoughts on them. Are parts easy or hard to get? Aftermarket parts support greater then the 72 gran?
Thanks in advance I'm just looking and dreaming of more projects. But the wife says next is her car and she wants a mustang but I'm trying to talk her into something else as every one and there dogs around here has a mustang |
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 9:12AM |
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We have a '68 Sportroof that I have seriously considered doing a Talladega swap on. However, it is C's project car and she does not like the idea. One of our members is/was in the process of making a faux T mod on his 1968 or '69 here. Not sure if it got completed, but his fabrication skills were magnificent.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 9:48AM |
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Aftermarket parts for the earlier cars seem to be greater, Galxie things fit and so do a lot of the mustang parts.......I was looking at uprated brakes and all the early ones had support but the fat crap that is the 73 didn't........
Mine will end up getting the custom bracket treatment with 6 pot wilwoods or something similar when funds allow
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 10:46AM |
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As far as the brake upgrades go, anything front suspension that fits a 65-up galaxie will fit a 72-76 torino. There is/was a ton of stuff made for this chassis back in the day, as it was the basis of most of the NASCAR chassis until the "Car of tomorrow".
As far as other ideas, how about a Fairmont Futura/Mercury Zephyr Z7? Anything suspension/engine/etc that works on a fox mustang will fit, and nobody kept them.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 11:11AM |
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I asked about brake upgraded and apparently the galaxie stuff doesn't fit the 73 Torino, that was my reply from Wilwood and SSBC
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 11:39AM |
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Wilwood will tell you that it doesn't because 73-76 Galaxie/LTD/Thunderbird has the "Large Ford" 5x5 bolt pattern for the wheels. What junkyards call the "knee assembly" (UCA, LCA, spindle, spring) will swap between 65-78 fullsize, 72-79 midsize, t-bird 67-79, etc. Some tie rods MAY be different, some ball joints MAY be different, but the entire assembly will swap. Spindles will swap thru those years, there are at least 5 front brake variants (drum brakes, Kelsey-Hayes discs, early fullsize discs, and big car 12', midsize 11" disc)
Lower control arms have at least 2 different spring pocket depths, and screw-in or press-in ball-joints, so if you do swap parts around, get both sides from the donor.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 1:43PM |
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I ask about the Talladega because I found two of them. May possibly pick them up and put in storage. The both are clean one more so then the other. And they are real Talladega's
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 2:11PM |
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If you can find a real Talladega (or two), get them.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 2:35PM |
Real Talladegas... HELL YEAH! |
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 2:47PM |
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Would the front finders and hood be hard to find?
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 2:54PM |
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 3:23PM |
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IF those are real Talladegas, the front ends will be both rare and expensive. There were only about 750 produced at the beginning of 1969 (jan and feb). There is a Talladega registry with all the VINs for the talladegas. Before you spend any serious money on a Talladega, make sure it is a Talladega, Frequently, people refer to all the sportsroof fastback Torinos as Talladegas but that is incorrect. The front end is unique to the 750 or so Talladegas, and the body has reshaped rockers with the pinchwelds folded over.The pictures don't show enough to tell if they are really Talladegas, although you can see 1968 taillights on the second car.
A lot of the details that should be on a real Talladega aren't on the two cars in your pictures. Tail panel should be semi-gloss/satin black, pinstripes should be black, there should be an emblem with a big T on the doors by the door handles, and a fake gas cap with a T on it in the rear (black) panel under the trunk lock. Most of these details COULD have gone away with a repaint, but the odds of this guy having two out of 750 or so cars with all the identifying details missing and refinished like regular torinos... Just be careful and do your due diligence.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 3:50PM |
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Thank you big bird I appreciate that the pics are not good and not enough but enough to make me curious.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 4:37PM |
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I messaged Robert Day on FB to chime in here.
He runs the Torino/Montego Registry. He is a wealth of knowledge on these cars. |
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 4:53PM |
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the white one (with the rust free roof) looks fairly straight and solid! (in the pics) if the ranchero next to it is a 72? may be some fenders and other stuff for your car
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 5:56PM |
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John: yes I was thinking the same that's why I'm taking the full day to see what all he has.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 6:22PM |
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 6:33PM |
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I do hope that at least one is a "real Talladega". He said they was but he might be wrong I will find out. Got to love small town junk yards. I'm hoping I can find a lot and work deals out on it all hahaha.
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 6:36PM |
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Although the white one the first one shows a 500 emdlem at the rear of the driver side. Both look way parted white one is missing the complete dash.....
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 6:45PM |
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do your homework and find out as much info as you can so you don't get ripped off!
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Posted: 12-May-2015 at 6:58PM |
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We have not even talked price. He said " come out, take a look and make me an offer". Scap prices here is $56 a ton so it works in my favor and I'm sure he hasn't had much interest in them.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 2:02AM |
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First one is a Fairlane 500 Sportroof. The true Talladega front parts are really, really rare and expensive. There is more involved in converting one than just fenders, hood, front header, and a grill.
Did you notice the Aspen/Volarie T-top car in the background? Looks like he has a ton of rare older stuff. What a gold mine. Edited by unlovedford - 13-May-2015 at 2:14AM |
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 4:44AM |
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I will take pics of most every thing this guy has. If interested I will post them and if any would like parts or what not we can negotiate that and I'll pull what ever y'all need.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 4:52AM |
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If the first is a fairlane 500 would that not make the second one a fairlane as well? The body lines and all are exactly the same.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 4:56AM |
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Sportroofs in 1968 could be both Torino and Fairlane. In 1969, Sportroofs could be Torino, Fairlane, and Talladega. Always confusing, LOL.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 6:57AM |
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LOOKS LIKE A CONVERTIBLE MUSTANG IN THE SECOND PICTURE.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 7:11AM |
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and the holy grail... a purple fiero?
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 7:16AM |
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Hahaha drop a 350 in the fiero and bam you got a bad azz drag car.
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Posted: 13-May-2015 at 4:22PM |
AJ, i think this is the thread joe was talking about: http://forum.grantorinosport.org/custom-restomod-talladega_topic9327_page1.html |
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Posted: 14-May-2015 at 3:35PM |
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Need to see the VIN#s
The Cyclone Montego Torino registry has a list of all T's that were built Try their email |
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CYCLONE MONTEGO TORINO REGISTRY
http://clubs.hemmings.com/cyclonemontegotorinoregistry/ |
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