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handsofstone
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Well done.
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Anderslober
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Ok guys…Different route. The original flywheel was in great condition. The ring gear wasnt.
I bought the Pioneer FRG-164N ring gear. It was a perfect fit! I cleaned the ring gear and flywheel mounting surfaces…..put the ring gear in the oven at max heat for 15min……and it just slipped on the flywheel…spun it a few rounds to seat it. Done. 👍👍 |
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Eliteman76
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Sadly, days of automotive machine shops in the USA are getting slimmer as time marches forward. Especially the shops that know 50 year old Ford V8's.
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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Eliteman76
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Now I have something puzzling me. Rockauto is not listing the correct clutch flywheel kits anymore for the 72-74 four speed cars.
I looked on pioneer and had to look under 1970 Mustang 351 (Doesn't say C or W) and got back: PART NUMBER : FW-193 Original Equipment (OE) Part InterchangeOEM: C5AZ-6375K My original Ford flywheel that I am still using has this cast and stamped on it: Cast# C5AE 6380-E Stamped# C7TE-A
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Andrew:GTS.ORG admin, '72 Q code 5 speed Restomod
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handsofstone
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Do you have a pic of the flywheel face?
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Yellosn
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I’m no clutch expert, but if you’re replacing your friction disc, you may want to get your flywheel machined to help with break in. Maybe even a good scuff with a disc sander? Of course, if you’re not replacing your pressure plate either it might not be an issue.
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Troy Emerson
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Anderslober
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My flywheel is smooth and nice. No gouges and very even wear(if any). I will reuse it. (Original FoMoCo flywheel👍🍹). I tapped of the ring gear…..very easy…..a punch and 4-5 taps around the ring and it came of.
I have ordered a new 164 tooth ring gear. The new ring gear will be heated and fitted. I have cleaned up the flywheel nicely and coated it with some light oil. (To prevent rust while I wait for some parts) This oil will of course get cleaned off before install.👍 Now to make a clutch decision!🍻🤿
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Anderslober
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Yes…I was actually contemplating just that. The clutch and flywheel look and feel good and smooth. No need to change them.
A new ring gear is easily doable. A ‘flip’ is the cheapest option. Free basically!👍 My engine ran pretty good…I am just doing needed ‘basic’ service. Timing chain, oil pump, valves, gaskets, cleaning, painting, etc……I am nearly finished…just small items to go. I live in Denmark……machine shops that ‘know’ these cars and ‘can do it’, can be counted on 2 fingers!
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Yellosn
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A machine shop can press on a new ring gear if that’s practical for your situation. When I had my flywheel surfaced I didn’t know it was a separate piece. The shop called and said they could just flip my ring and re-install to get on the “fresh” side of the teeth. I didn’t have any damaged teeth, just normal wear.
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Troy Emerson
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72FordGTS
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The original flywheel is part number C6TZ-6375-C which was used on many applications for many years, including the 1972 351CJ. The Pioneer website shows that FW-113 interchanges with Ford E8TZ-6375-C
NDP shows that E8TZ-6375-C is interchangeable with C6TZ-6375-C so it should be good.
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Vince
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Anderslober
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Hi forum. Since I have the engine out of the car atm, I can inspect everything. I am fighting with myself whether or not to totally refurb the engine with all new stuff!🤠👍🍹🍻
The flywheel has a few chipped teeth…..afaict, the flywheel is 164 tooth. (4sp/351cj). What flywheel can you fellas recommend? I just want a standard OE flywheel. I found a Pioneer flywheel over at Summit…FW-113. Reasonable price…. What ‘balance’ do I need? External, 28oz…..is my guess…please confirm. Thanks. Lemme’ know…👍
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