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 Topic: INFO: 1972-1979 Body Insulator Bushings - UPDATEDPosted: 20-September-2010 at 1:42PM |
 I HAVE FINALLY COME UP WITH THE PERFECT MOUNT.Follow this topic and then read my conclusion! CONCLUSION: OK, here it is......................... Buy 10 body mounts for a 2003 - 2009 Ford Crown Victoria with a 2006 part number. THE PART NO's. ARE (UPPER MOUNT)6W1Z-5400396-A AND (LOWER) 6W1Z-5C155-AA. YOU CAN ORDER THESE PARTS WHOLESALE THRU BOB UTTER FORD OUT OF TEXAS. Take the center "tube" (shiny one) and cut it down with a tube cutter to 1 1/4". The ugly one is the old one for comparison.  Here is a pic of it cut.  Don't forget to dress on the grinder. This is why you have to cut the tube...........  The new one on the left is too fat between the body and frame. This will change after you cut the tube. This is it in the frame and at stock height.  The best part as you can see is I am able to reuse the original bolts. Just clean up and coat with Loctite. Next..........I will find a solution to the 2 core support mounts. Stay tuned
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Posted: 20-September-2010 at 1:47PM |
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Good deal. Thanks for the knowledge.
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Posted: 20-September-2010 at 2:20PM |
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Genius! I look forward to seeing the rad support mounts.
What is the cost on these, roughly?
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77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Posted: 20-September-2010 at 4:05PM |
$10.68 top (6W1Z-5400396-A) & $9.44 bottom ( 6W1Z-5C155-AA) x 10 mounts = $201.20 Westway Ford Parts Department. I know Bob Utter Ford has them, but they're cheapest at Westway Ford Parts Department
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Posted: 20-September-2010 at 5:11PM |
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Nicely done there Jim.
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Posted: 21-September-2010 at 2:13AM |
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do you need to trim down the rubber part of the mount as well?
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Posted: 21-September-2010 at 2:22PM |
Nope. When you tighten it down, it squooshes to a perfect fit.
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 3:10AM |
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Are these installed in your car now?
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77 XR7 460/C6/3.00:1 *SOLD* 78 XR7 523/C6/3.5:1 79 F100 460/TKO500/3.25:1 'I also have some left over potatoes-I understand you can generate electricity from them'- Foote500 |
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 11:29AM |
Body won't be back on the frame until atleast next summer.
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 11:57AM |
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....... I really don't want to have to be the first one to do before and after pics.
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 1:06PM |
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This is the mount on the frame and it is completely tight as if bolted
to the body. You will notice the big washer that I used under the nut in place of the body. It is the exact size as original. I guess this is the before shot. I can't do the after shot 'til later down the road.   |
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 1:17PM |
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We need rad support bushings, as well.. I spoke with Andy, he said what he used collapsed over the years.
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Posted: 27-September-2010 at 1:40PM |
I'm working on that. Will post when I find something acceptable.
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 4:32AM |
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Thanks much for posting this info. My body is due back next week and we'll be putting these to use!
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 5:28AM |
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Dumb question here...
Can you do a side by side pic of the new and old one MOUNTED like the pic of the new one you have?
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 5:31AM |
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Maybe. Have to wait for the new ones to arrive. And, bear in mind my old ones were original and I don't recall any of them coming out of the car that seemed to not be deformed all the hell.
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Posted: 14-December-2010 at 8:06AM |
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I have a few good original ones so when the Crown Vic ones arrive I can take a side-by-side for you.
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Posted: 16-December-2010 at 2:34PM |
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This thread should be a sticky also and put under the first thread.......
1972 - 1979 Body Insulator Bushings |
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Posted: 16-December-2010 at 6:27PM |
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Without reading 4 pages.. Why do we have TWO threads about body insulator bushings?
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 2:24AM |
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Someone started a new thread instead of adding on to the original one. From what I have seen on THIS thread... seems to be the perfect new body mount option that is readily available.
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 6:40AM |
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OK, I just got them today. Shorten up the steel part like Jim said and you're good to go!!
First pic shows the original one at the left (2 parts) with the new one (bottom only) to the right  2nd pic shows the new one (bottom only) on the left and an old CV one beside it (both parts)  3rd pic is looking down at all of them.  Edited by iangj - 17-December-2010 at 8:32AM |
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 12:02PM |
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So stock it is fatter/taller than the original Torino bushing, cut the center like showed and it will be same height as stock Torino.
How much FATTER does it get after it is torqued down compared to the original Torino?
Will the extra fattness cause an issue anywhere? Like inside the frame rail rubbing the sides causing premature failure?
Other premature failure question is... if we SQUISH it further than it was intended will it cause premature failure or splitting?
Can you cut down the new bushing to Torino height same as the center sleeve to make it SQUISH OUT less to make it work better?
I guess asking about OVER tension on the rubber it is not designed to handle?
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 1:28PM |
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It isn't "squished" to the point I would worry. It's my
opinion that using this new mount this way should work perfectly. And the best part is you can use the old bolts. As far as all your questions cowboy, I don't know if any one could answer accurately. I know this is what I plan to do with no worries. The body is supported to the frame by the rubber bushing, and this way, will reduce body roll over the stock bushings but be a little softer than the poly bushings. Sounds like a win - win to me. Which is good.
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Posted: 17-December-2010 at 2:18PM |
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Thanks Jim!
PM sent on another subject.
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:12PM |
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We'll know real soon. I bought the bushings as described and cut the metal tube to the 1.25" height. Have them lined up for the body install in the next few days. Sorry the picture didn't work too well. I've got ten of them out on the body held in place with some extremely light and tacky glue to ease installation.
Ron  Edited by Ron Earp - 30-December-2010 at 3:13PM |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:19PM |
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Question - can anyone tell me the space between the inner part of the frame and the body when the body is installed?
I want to run a -8AN line down the inside of the passenger side frame rail. This line is about 5/8" to 3/4" OD and wish to know if there is that much space available between the frame and body. Thanks, Ron |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:50PM |
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Ron-
Factory lines on the Torino, are a 3/8" line, I would think you should have clearance on you lines. Let me go crawl under mine. Be back in a few. |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 3:55PM |
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Damn, cold out there. I had to do the ole finger check. With my 3/8" line, I got one of my fat fingers in between the line and the body. I am guessing at this point, you are only going to have maybe 7/8" of an inch.
Sorry it's not more exacting...but I have too much junk on the floor to really lay down and check right now. |
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 8:46PM |
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Thank you, that is helpful and I think it is enough space as along as I keep the line tight to the frame.
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Posted: 30-December-2010 at 11:10PM |
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what's the harm in installing the CV bushings un-modified?
other than shimming the core support to match(which i need to do anyway) and having enough room to run my -10 fuel return line on top of the frame... slightly longer bolts if needed doesn't seem like a deal breaker. i'm not doing a Pebble Beach resto
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